Akamari

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I can't remember, and it's all changed since I set my last one up, so I can't say... :unsure:
Charge up front is a permanent feature and cannot be changed; once you elect to charge your patrons up front, you cannot undo this. If you switch to charge up front from a per creation account type, you will not be able to switch back to charging your patrons per creation.
 
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Charge up front is a permanent feature and cannot be changed; once you elect to charge your patrons up front, you cannot undo this. If you switch to charge up front from a per creation account type, you will not be able to switch back to charging your patrons per creation.
One more stupid thing done by the asshats at patreon.
 
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botc76

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Not promised, intended. There's a huge difference. No developer promises a release, they project and anticipate, but only AAA games have hard set release dates. Don't get me wrong, I'm sorely disappointed (yet again), but I can't hold her to task for missing a release date on a free game. My patreon support doesn't have anything to do with the price of the game, that's just my support of the developer. That fact of the matter is that nobody is paying for this game, except Notty.

For now, I'll just stand by and see what news comes up in the next day or two.

Now, let's be honest here, this is how you understand patreon and maybe even how it is supposed to work, but we all know that is not how the majority of patrons see it and not even how most of the creators see it.
If you tell people you will update monthly and let them pay not per update, but per month then you do indeed promise them something, yes, even without actually SAYING or WRITING "I promise" you make people believe that for the money they give you, they will get one release a month.

I'm really not someone screaming bloody murder when a game gets delayed, but what you write here is either just your personal understanding of the patreon or an attempt at deflecting criticism away from a creator you like.

And that's not wrong, but the thing is as valid as your opinion is, those of the others criticizing that no update was released is as well.

This game, Dr. Amana, DeLuca Family, I love these games and I don't say anything aiming to attack and insult the creators, but while there are valid reasons for the delays, the delays are still here, and both RomanHume and NotTravis have given release dates they haven't met.
I hope they have become wiser now and won't set a date, unless they are a 100% sure they will release an update at that point, but it is completely understandable that people, worry, ask and even complain in a situation like this.


I mean, episode 2 was delayed for a week or two because NotTravis realized she'd made a character's lipstick the wrong color, a detail many people wouldn't even have noticed, and redid all the renders for the character before releasing rather than put out a completed, if flawed, product and provide the corrected version later. If people want perfection, they've got to wait for it.

Personally, I don't give a fuck about this amount of fixation on details if it delays release. It's her game, she's fine to do it, but that isn't something I would ever applaud or see as an excuse, unless they change stuff like that and still deliver on time.

There's a comic artist I really like(d), Travis Charest. His art is insanely beautiful and detailed, but he takes ages for it.
So long that at one point he just couldn't work in US comics any longer, instead he went to Europe and started working on a Metabaron book, more than two years later he still wasn't finished with that one book and it had to be completed by a different artist.

All the beauty and detail all the work he puts in his art just simply pale before the fact that he wasn't able to finish one GN of between 48-64 pages in several years.

I doN't hate him, still like his art, but I would never invest money into anything he does, until I have the completed product available.
 

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There's no news from Nottravis since June, even on Patreon, and now we have July 8. Please keep in mind that she literally promised weekly updates on current progress.
So, does anyone know what happened to her? Is everything alright with her?
 

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So, does anyone know what happened to her? Is everything alright with her?
After the long dark a while back, Notty implemented an emergency broadcast system (aka TotesnotJane ). If she goes dark again because of illness or tragedy, then TNJ is supposed to show up and advise us of the situation, so as to avert panic. However, since there's no sign of Notty and TNJ has not given us a message to calm the masses...I guess it's time to panic.

 

Avaron1974

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It's a damn shame.

This was almost a huge breakout game. Started off awesome, built up faster than most new Patreon based games i've seen recently and could have potentially been massive.

I know real life gets in the way but the momentum has gone and the chances of being able to build back up get slimmer the longer it goes on.

I adore Notty, I so wanted her to do well.
 

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It's a damn shame.

This was almost a huge breakout game. Started off awesome, built up faster than most new Patreon based games i've seen recently and could have potentially been massive.

I know real life gets in the way but the momentum has gone and the chances of being able to build back up get slimmer the longer it goes on.

I adore Notty, I so wanted her to do well.
Now, now, let's not write it off just yet. Notty has the talent, skill and charm to recover from this. The number of patrons topped at 90, now there are 75. That's not so bad. I firmly believe that Chapter 3 can get it back on track.
 

Avaron1974

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Now, now, let's not write it off just yet. Notty has the talent, skill and charm to recover from this. The number of patrons topped at 90, now there are 75. That's not so bad. I firmly believe that Chapter 3 can get it back on track.
I'm not writing it off.

Being a fan is one thing but all other people have seen are really long stretches of radio silence.

It's hard for a game to pull in support in the first place but it takes a monumental amount of work to build back faith once something like this has happened.

Chapter 3 may get the game back on track but in order to bring people back it would take chapter 4, 5 and 6 coming out with no problems and pretty quickly.

Not saying that to be a bitch but i've not seen games hit slumps and build back up without a lot of hard work.
 

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Now, now, let's not write it off just yet. Notty has the talent, skill and charm to recover from this. The number of patrons topped at 90, now there are 75. That's not so bad. I firmly believe that Chapter 3 can get it back on track.
IF chapter 3 delivers (and I'm sure it will), I've no doubt it could reignite that spark.
I'm getting more worried about Notty's silences that become more and more frequent. It could be due to personal IRL stuff (in which case, not our business) or a lack of motivation for the game due to various issues. Worse thing would be keeping silent because she feels bad that she couldn't release on time, which would just be angst feeding itself :/
 

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If this were most anyone else, a few weeks of silence would not be notable, other devs go moths without a word, and no one says a thing, it's only because Notty was SO active in here, that her absence is so noteworthy.

I can wait as long as I need to for the game, as long as everything is okay with her/them, then it's all good.
 

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I'm not writing it off.

Being a fan is one thing but all other people have seen are really long stretches of radio silence.

It's hard for a game to pull in support in the first place but it takes a monumental amount of work to build back faith once something like this has happened.

Chapter 3 may get the game back on track but in order to bring people back it would take chapter 4, 5 and 6 coming out with no problems and pretty quickly.

Not saying that to be a bitch but i've not seen games hit slumps and build back up without a lot of hard work.
One thing you never should do on Ophion is abandoning hope... although I don't recall a character called Hope in the game
 

Goblin Baily: DILF

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I blame myself for the delay, and lack of communication... if I wasn't so harsh on this game.... sometimes I forget words can cut deep.... even the most thicskinned person would feel down
 

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Let's see what's going on with Gumdrop:

Apr 29, 2019: Part X Dev. Update: Writing Done
Jun 22-24, 2019: 3x COMING SOON

And now we have this:


I really hope that Nottravis will be faster than that. :p
 
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Akamari

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I really hope that Nottravis will be faster than that. :p
The work on Chapter 3 was essentially done as of 30th of June. All the additional content was done. All renders with graphical glitches were re-rendered. All renders from early March that were of lower quality than later ones were re-rendered. Her own playtesting was done. All that was left was final playtesting from her friend and fixing whatever bugs might pop up.

With the animations gone I can't think of anything that could cause another substantial delay. That is, unless she is struggling with trying to compress the size of the game further. That was a sensitive issue for her. But the way it was worded sounds like it's, hopefully, not a mandatory thing to do.
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The more I think about it the more I'm of the opinion that the reason for her latest absence is not related to the game at all. I just can't see any hints of trouble. None of the previous planned release dates in June had words of certainty. The words were:"I'll be as quick as I can!" or "I'm trying to get it out this weekend".

It goes without saying, but I hope there'll be news soon. I'd rather go 3 more months without a chapter knowing what's going on than another week of silence.
 

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Whoa! I'm really sorry to hear she fell off the radar again. I've been too busy to keep up but I just realized I hadn't heard anything in a month.

Game or no game, I'd just like to hear she's in good health.
 
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