Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Akamari]

*almost did do this - but thought it could be a tad unfair!*

Why? I don't think the player needs extra protection over the MC. I would actually call this being unfair to my character.

 

[Huitieme]

Why? I don't think the player needs extra protection over the MC. I would actually call this being unfair to my character.

I agree, it wouldn't feel so much unfair than freaking hilarious

 

[Nottravis]

I agree, it wouldn't feel so much unfair than freaking hilarious

Maybe. Perhaps.

And we can say that with hindsight now peeps have got used to the way I do my game. Now, you'd be a -lot- more cautious. Back then it felt more like an unfair trap - and not everyone would be comfortable with the path.

 

[Akamari]

I mean if the main character can be blindsided, so it should be for the player.

It's pretty obvious from the way Chris talks that there is something fishy about this, so although the player wouldn't know what it is, he would be able to make a calculated decision based on his observation. A bit of a missed opportunity, to be honest.

 

[Nottravis]

Tidying up the first three chaoters a bit as well for this one. Few loose ends, minor typos etc and shifting all the credits to the end of the chapter as opposed to credit, hit a key sorta a thing.

Dropping a series of "intermission" cards in their place.

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[Nottravis]

I mean if the main character can be blindsided, so it should be for the player.

It's pretty obvious from the way Chris talks that there is something fishy about this, so although the player wouldn't know what it is, he would be able to make a calculated decision based on his observation. A bit of a missed opportunity, to be honest.

Not everyone would be comfortable with suddenly having a wager re his sister going on.
*made her judgement call*
So funnier for those who would find it so - not funny in the slightest for those who don't.

 

[Akamari]

Not everyone would be comfortable with suddenly having a wager re his sister going on.
*made her judgement call*
So funnier for those who would find it so - not funny in the slightest for those who don't.

They can cancel the wager, can't they? It's not like they are doomed to go with it. It could end up with them just being pranked on. No hard feelings, no?

 

[Huitieme]

Not everyone would be comfortable with suddenly having a wager re his sister going on.
*made her judgement call*
So funnier for those who would find it so - not funny in the slightest for those who don't.

Well, it's your call ultimately. It isn't much of an issue to me anyway. The player always knows more than the characters, if not during the first playthrough then for the next one, and the next one, and the next one, and the... You get it

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Maybe. Perhaps.

And we can say that with hindsight now peeps have got used to the way I do my game. Now, you'd be a -lot- more cautious. Back then it felt more like an unfair trap - and not everyone would be comfortable with the path.

in ME2, my favorite weapon was the one used by pressing F, caution ain'tmy style...

Not everyone would be comfortable with suddenly having a wager re his sister going on.
*made her judgement call*
So funnier for those who would find it so - not funny in the slightest for those who don't.

to be fair... when on the rescue mission with Chris. I told her I like her but kept the wager... no guts no glory

 

[Akamari]

Well, it's your call ultimately. It isn't much of an issue to me anyway. The player always knows more than the characters, if not during the first playthrough then for the next one, and the next one, and the next one, and the... You get it

Obviously, but this is about the first time experience, the canon playthrough. Most will simply declare the playthrough with most convenient consequences as canon for them, it's of course up to everyone to play however they like, but for people like me who like making the choices and accepting the consequences, it's best to know as much as the MC does. It's unfair to know more in the first run.

Like I always say to devs, all revelations need good timing.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Notty, notty, notty....
how sweet of you to be concerned over a bet.. almost as if you were trying to distract us from the real problem... if you remember, back in the days you mentioned how a choice in chapter 2 could compromise the whole mission... my brain got me thinking.... Trisha is the only one thinking the problem is within the software, while she could be wrong, I wouldn't exclude the possibility that she's right, not because of feminism but because it's the opinion of 1 sceintist versus 2 scientists so it would be interesting if someone specialised in geology would make a better diagnosis of the problem than mike the software guy. also if the LT doesn't go on the mission he will still dscover the batteries thingy... sure you like choices and paths but the key moments are fixed points in time... and while the LT chases a wild goose, Thea messes with the signal. on the other hand, if Trisha is Thea listening to her and even acepting her advances might be the downfall

 

[Sulring Durgul]

Maybe. Perhaps.
And we can say that with hindsight now peeps have got used to the way I do my game. Now, you'd be a -lot- more cautious. Back then it felt more like an unfair trap - and not everyone would be comfortable with the path.

Seems to me people react strangely to the in-game results of their actions. Because it's a game, they expect their character to get away with most everything... Well, tough! Bad shit happens when you do stupid, irresponsible things. They have to learn that actions have consequences.

Dropping a series of "intermission" cards in their place.

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I like the concept (and there's Becca, so ) but I hate these pyjamas with a burning passion. They've been used too much...

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Anyway Notty, I bought two games based on your recommendations and/or comments (Witcher (I've got the other two as well) and Mass Effect), which one should I start playing while I'm waiting for CH4?

Witcher 1 combat is pretty much a point and click system. The story is really good but everything else (graphics and VA included) didn't age very well.
Mass Effect 1 also has a great story and better voice acting than the first Witcher but dated graphics and gameplay.

In the end it depends on which you like more: a space sci-fi or medieval fantasy setting? Because both are really good series (i would start with ME).

Of course I am!

Trish is lovely (Plus bewbs). Whereas Yen is just a flat chested nag!

Yen: "Geralt!!!! Stop what you're doing and go risk your life for me to do something. NOW! And smarten yourself up too!"

Horrid woman.

Well, I admit the tsundere part was really caricatural, in substance, it stands for someone who acts all mean and hostile in order to hide their true feelings, out of shyness mostly. Thing is, I like a bit of depth into my protagonists, but Yen can get aggravating, even though you know her past and the reasons why she put such an armor around her. She's not a badly written character, of course not, but as a reader, I sometimes got fed up of her bitchy facade. We get it, you had a shitty childhood. You know who else had a shitty childhood? Fucking everyone in that world!

So I can get why a lot of people, mainly those who didn't read the books, would likely prefer the perky Merigold to the bitchy Vengerberg.

Yen is like a forever young girl. Torrid sex but very immature personality, to the point that i keep thinking "why do i need to follow someone who tries to berate me at every opportunity she has?".
I quite like how much more mature Triss is in the games, owning up for her actions and learning from them, so when the decision came in W3 it was pretty much a easy choice my Geralt picked Triss. ♥♥♥♥

If I were her commanding officer, I'd congratulate her on her shooting technique, then berate her about tunnel vision! Her shots landed closer to Walker than to her intended target. (She was shooting at the LGM, or rather at the ground close to a LGM, I hope?)

Wait... You don't think Chris would try to kill the doctor and disguise it as a acident? *Looks at Notty...

On your cannon run (as I know you scamps will have tried to do everything...) how many of you took Chris' bet re Kelly? *is curious!*

*Poofs*

I don't have a cannon run yet but on my first time (without knowing yet that Kelly was the protagonist's sister) i didn't take the bet.
Mostly because it was very obvious Chris was trying to bait me into that bet and she looked very confident she was going to win, like she knew something i didn't, and Annie warned me about bets with Chris after i agreed to boxing with her.
Plus a earlier scene showed Kelly saying her surname (the same as MC) and Chris going all "interesting" like she made the connection.

On my second run i accepted because i want to know how(or if) i am going to escape the mess.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Witcher 1 combat is pretty much a point and click system. The story is really good but everything else (graphics and VA included) didn't age very well.
Mass Effect 1 also has a great story and better voice acting than the first Witcher but dated graphics and gameplay.

In the end it depends on which you like more: a space sci-fi or medieval fantasy setting? Because both are really good series (i would start with ME).

there's also Dragon Age: Origins... it has tons of choices and consequences.... I remember having to re-do the whole circle quest(fade included) because I didn't want to let Isolde sacrifice herself...if only companions conversation had consequences like in H5... sup morrigan, mages are cool and should be free... few minutes later... Sten, so your people thinks of mages as beasts? that's cool

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

there's also Dragon Age: Origins... it has tons of choices and consequences.... I remember having to re-do the whole circle quest(fade included) because I didn't want to let Isolde sacrifice herself...if only companions conversation had consequences like in H5... sup morrigan, mages are cool and should be free... few minutes later... Sten, so your people thinks of mages as beasts? that's cool

True. But I'm Not Thea Lundgren! is going to need a few weeks to play all 3 series.

 

[DA22]

Question!

On your cannon run (as I know you scamps will have tried to do everything...) how many of you took Chris' bet re Kelly? *is curious!*

*Poofs*

I took the bet in my first playthrough, guess there is a bit of a friendly rivalry going with Chris, besides she likely already got the best of me once so time to turn the tables and yeah I already suspected it was Kelly.

 

[frap]

woke up to five pages... whew

At least there was lots of... talk about games I haven't played...

Well I have to fit you scamps and my daily renders in before work somehow

We appreciate your level of dedication.

May I remind you hunni pie that all this started as your milkshake was bringing all the boys to the yard that was followed by the hefting of your bewbs.

I absolutely adore you but I do believe you are telling a fib when you claim innocence.

*is adorable!*
*preens!*

I was only dancing tho. Perfectly innocently.
*sage nods*

I'm... gonna stay out of this one. I'll just be... over there.

Ah but I didn't say what I was innocent of tho! Charges of arson, probs.

Technically correct is best correct?

*has read them - and still thinks she's horrid!*

In other news, I came third in the best writer thingy!

Not bad considering the size of the player base for H5. Not bad at all. Thankees for those that voted for me

3/10's of a game from a newb vs two of the most pop devs with completed games under their belts. Yeah...I did alright!

You were robbed! I demand a recount!

Question!

On your cannon run (as I know you scamps will have tried to do everything...) how many of you took Chris' bet re Kelly? *is curious!*

*Poofs*

Actually, yeah. I approached it as LT doesn't know anything about who it is... and is trying to build some camaraderie with this new group of people he's been thrown in with. Also, at that point was leaving my options open - have a date sometime in the week for drinks, another for VR games and, of course, the fight.

I have a story. I'm from Sweden and did 15 months conscription service. When you do the aptitude test to determine your placement I got pretty meh results so I couldn't get into the "good" places like Stockholm et c so they sent me to this place called Boden (I encourage you to check it out on a map). If you've ever been to bumfuck nowhere, that's where Boden is. The purpose of this place is to have a base for "winter excercises" to ensure vehicles and equipment are thoroughly tested in arctic climate. I didn't know this at the time and hadn't been very far north.
Boy was I in for a surprise. The training started in January, and on my second day it was the coldest day of some years. -37 C. We did outdoor marching, because that's what what the planning said. And if you know anything about military affairs, you know that nobody will ever think to change any training plan for "humane" reasons. You need so much clothes that you look like a penguin to go outside in that kind of weather and you have to stop like every kilometer or so and check for white spots in your buddys' faces so nobody gets frostbitten. You can't walk very fast either, or you risk frostbite in your lungs. To ensure that your nose does not freeze you breathe in with your mouth and out through your nose. It must have been a helluva sights. ~30 or so green penguins waddling along in barely synchronised waddle.
I don't think many people saw us though, because there is no school or work when it gets that cold and cars barely start.
Anyway, did you know that Hell in the nordic mythology is not fire and brimstone, but instead fucking cold? I totally understand why that is now.

My basic training was in Texas, with 2 weeks in White Sands, New Mexico in the summer. Saw 126°F (52.2°C) in the shade while out there. It was horrid.

Lived in Alaska, spent a year in Fairbanks - saw temps of -60°F (-51°C) - it doesn't matter how many layers you put on, it just plain hurts. But, why no wool face-masks to protect your cheeks/lungs?

Seems to me people react strangely to the in-game results of their actions. Because it's a game, they expect their character to get away with most everything... Well, tough! Bad shit happens when you do stupid, irresponsible things. They have to learn that actions have consequences.

...

I think that's one of those things that come from playing too many games with no consequences. Notty's gonna set 'em straight, you'll see.

 

[Nottravis]

Wait... You don't think Chris would try to kill the doctor and disguise it as a acident? *Looks at Notty...

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I like the concept (and there's Becca, so ) but I hate these pyjamas with a burning passion. They've been used too much...

Have they? *doesn't play much these days*

Well it's not as though they stay on long, but I can mod them I suppose.

 

[Huitieme]

Well it's not as though they stay on long, but I can mod them I suppose.

I've heard from a pretty reliable source that Becca actually likes to watch tv in her knickers... ♫

 

[frap]

I've heard from a pretty reliable source that Becca actually likes to watch tv in her knickers... ♫

Translated: "The voices in my head told me so!"