Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[DA22]

Did they went through the trouble of disguising it as something else?

Not unlikely, if even to take some worry away from the personnel or make it harder to sabotage for any imagined or real enemy. Military do tend to be slightly paranoid.

 

[TheDevian]

Were some interesting answers to this already, but as far as we know on Earth even in very secluded spots with high nutrients there always seem to be at least one top predator after some time. Some of those take very weird forms though. Of course it is well possible that in the future if we ever do find life (intelligent or not) on other planets, that it may be very different as what we know and evolution has tricks up it's sleeve that we did not even dream of yet.



That is very debatable, also think of lion prides and such or wolves, unless you consider most of natural world as unfavorable circumstances. Well you might have a point there.



Well we do not know that, it just seems a likely backstory though with the information we have. Now it could be the planet actually does need a competent traffic controller without us knowing that. Besides I am just a loving brother with a lot to give to my little sister, so shame on you Sir to draw such conclusions.



Nah, but she might ask us to do something perverted to her.



Indeed one hypothesis. Well considering we are unable to unify the theories of the big things and very small things plus we need to add an enormous big constant to our theories with dark matter/energy to make any sense of what we think we see out there, I would say it is wiser to keep an open mind for now. Likely we will discover that the universe has a few more surprises in store for us in the future.



True, whether that was always a viable strategy though? Then again weird ideas about bloodlines and the strength of those, have led to plenty of misery and entitlement as well.



True and unless a new alpha comes from another herd it will be one of the kids of the alpha that will be the new alpha and guess what the female herd members will be?



Grats, I will be surprised if not this weekend. Especially with Notty posting tidbits on patreon today.



Nice Akky, do like the charactersheet form as well it fits with the game and PDA.



True, I would more say though use the walkthrough for when you get stuck on playthrough six for getting closer to the lady you want to be with.

Coincidentally, lions also have a high percentage of homo/bi sexuality, I find it entertaining.

I just love all the new cosmological conjecture. It's just amazing to think about.

Even if they get a new alpha, all the others are related, so the problem doesn't really go away...

Also, this is the future, so with genetic engineering they should be able to correct any genetic issues that could arise.

...Damn, what did you do to me, Notty? Now I am advocating incest!

 

[TheDevian]

True, I would more say though use the walkthrough for when you get stuck on playthrough six for getting closer to the lady you want to be with.

What about for your 7th playthrough when you are trying not to get thrown out of an air lock? ...wait.

 

[Crocker505]

Sorry no. Well not at the moment. Sadly I'm making this on a single 1060 card which just doesn't have the render speed I'm afraid. Hopefully as we move on and my rig improves then I can.

ty for answer, hope u do it better then other non-animated games.

 

[TheDevian]

ty for answer, hope u do it better then other non-animated games.

Based on what we have seen so far, it seems promising. XD

 

[DA22]

ty for answer, hope u do it better then other non-animated games.

Well I would say she already does, especially having seen some of the remaster in this thread, but admittedly I am a bit predisposed to liking this game.

 

[NeimadFR]

True, I would more say though use the walkthrough for when you get stuck on playthrough six for getting closer to the lady you want to be with.

That's exactly how I planned to use it

 

[Akamari]

That is very debatable, also think of lion prides and such or wolves, unless you consider most of natural world as unfavorable circumstances. Well you might have a point there.

I don't know about wolves, but with lions inbreeding is uncommon because the alpha male tends to force younger males out to find their own prides. It takes 3 years for lions to reach sexual maturity, and with only about 8 years of lifespan in the wild the alpha doesn't get to hold his position for long since he has to face challenges from other males looking for prides. There is not much time or opportunity to mate with his daughters. I don't think I need to point out that inbreeding causes genetic anomalies and defects. Nature typically has means to ensure diversity of the genetic pool.

Nice Akky, do like the charactersheet form as well it fits with the game and PDA.

Thanks! Yeah, I was trying to capture the feel of the PDA as well as using H5's signature font where I deemed it would fit.

True, I would more say though use the walkthrough for when you get stuck on playthrough six for getting closer to the lady you want to be with.

I'd say more like 20 playthroughs. But yeah, it is really to provide people with on option should they want to see a path mentioned in the summaries and they just can't get it for some reason.

You don't need to see every bit of content to progress with each girl, so as long as you don't play your cards really poorly, you can totally go without it and just follow your guts. Obviously some choices result in arguably better consequences, but generally it's not necessary to play some kind of "optimal" path.

 

[DA22]

Well time for a bit more tin foiling concerning Kelly after the last two chadwick files:

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[DA22]

You don't need to see every bit of content to progress with each girl, so as long as you don't play your cards really poorly, you can totally go without it and just follow your guts. Obviously some choices result in arguably better consequences, but generally it's not necessary to play some kind of "optimal" path.

To be honest we do not know that yet, we know the story will progress whatever we do and we know from Notty that on the whole we get more than one chance to get involved with the main women, she never said though that we will not be able to really put them off and seriously mad at us. Not sure, but suspect getting caught with Annie by Chris might be one of those moments if interested in Chris, except maybe for a bad part.

 

[TheDevian]

To be honest we do not know that yet, we know the story will progress whatever we do and we know from Notty that on the whole we get more than one chance to get involved with the main woman, she never said though that we will not be able to really put them off and seriously mad at us. Not sure, but suspect getting caught with Annie by Chris might be one of those moments if interested in Chris, except maybe for a bad part.

Yeah, with 116 endings, I have to assume every choice matters, but we won't know how for some time in some cases.

 

[Oddball2k]

But if she is a spy, well....why not Marcus? Or Trisha? Or....etc etc. I mean, why would there be a spy there anyway?

It's a backwater research station. It doesn't seem that important to me...

Good points and too early to speculate about any conspiracy even if there is one imo.

It is such a shame that people like the PPF are thwarting colonisation plans isn't it?

But with no colony ships actually completed (thanks, Thea...) and only the three "I" class capable of inter system travel the fleet is very, very stretched. The loss of the Invincible was most unfortunate in making a bad situation even worse. I'm not suprised the MC has orders to consider closing the place. Last thing they need is to be keeping an eye on another planet when they have Phoebe to play with, no?

Maybe the MC should close it down. It does seem a sensible thing to do, no? It would take pressure off the mission for sure. Who cares if the plant is fixed if you're going to shut it down.



I'm sure there is a perfectly sensible answer for that. *sage nods*

Still valuable intels, it makes sense in a way.

Y'know sometimes I re-read my posts and I can just hear the sounds of grinding of teeth flowing across the internet.....

Hmm, can i change my last statement?

Whether or not anyone gets Annie, (double entendre was on purpose), the simple theory that you never ever put all your eggs in one basket unless you have no choice should make Ophion way more important as is even with those problems. I can understand Phoebe is the priority but setting up a small self sustaining colony on Ophion should be a goal at least in my opinion. Besides you can not tell me there are not hundreds of Xenobiologists on Earth that would give their left ball to be able to study new species on Ophion normally, even with Phoebe out there.

Insteresting thoughts DA22, to be continued!

Oh they'd love to be out there I'm sure. As would a whole host of biologists, geologists and indeed a whole pile of others. But it's a logistics problem really.

With the I class being exploration ships rather than large scale people movers, the amount of civilians they can shift at any one time will be quite limited and with only three ships available it's how best they can deploy their very limited resources.

As a rule of thumb the fleet currently has one in orbit around Phoebe, one back at Earth for repair, rest and refit and one in transit. You could deploy them differently of course. Have one make shuttle runs just to Ophion, one making runs just to Phoebe and keep one in repair. But that leaves gaps in support at each planet, reducing the only vessels that can support the ground team to occasional visits twice a year.... Risky. Given that Phoebe seems to be a better option all round, and pending the completion of the first colony vessel, perhaps it's not surprising they've decided what they've decided. Focus on just one for now given the low people numbers they can move and give it full support.

Of course once the colony vessels come on stream perhaps things will change.

And Notty has responded... and it's clear now, i take it as valuable intels for sure, thanks Notty!


Don't have time to quote more, just emojis to reach the end... sorry!



Notty was very informative today, THANKS!!

*Toodles*

 

[Sulring Durgul]

I don't think I need to point out that inbreeding causes genetic anomalies and defects.

Just a little correction: inbreeding doesn't "cause" genetic anomalies, it makes it more likely to get homozygous mutations or variations in your population. And homozygous genetic defects have a more severe impact on the phenotype of the subjects (i.e. anomalies and genetic diseases).

 

[Akamari]

What if Kelly is not a spy as such, but a plant from Internal affair to check out Chris since she might be considered a security risk through her actions, a sort of sting operation.

I find that unlikely simply because the Chadwick files were dealt with by the command of the Intrepid. I don't think it got higher than that. Chadwick incidents also could have happened after Kelly was posted on Ophion.

Also, the mission was low-threat. Simple transport and resupply with the MC having the extra task of evaluating the station. Nobody seemingly gave much shit about it. But since there is an incoming Marine vessel, I guess that might have changed.

That would also mean though that the last minute replacement by the Vannie would not be a coincidence at all.

Yep, it was the Viper's mission. Chris was not supposed to be there at all. I just don't see why it would be important to have Chris there and not somebody else?

 

[Akamari]

Yeah, with 116 endings, I have to assume every choice matters, but we won't know how for some time in some cases.

116 paths. Notty never said endings. Paths may diverge as well as converge.

 

[TheDevian]

Just a little correction: inbreeding doesn't "cause" genetic anomalies, it makes it more likely to get homozygous mutations or variations in your population. And homozygous genetic defects have a more severe impact on the phenotype of the subjects (i.e. anomalies and genetic diseases).

Yes, exactly. It can allow the normally recessive traits a higher chance of coming out in the next generation.

116 paths. Notty never said endings. Paths may diverge as well as converge.

Valid point, it's like a CYOA novel, so no telling how much they diverge.

 

[Akamari]

Just a little correction: inbreeding doesn't "cause" genetic anomalies, it makes it more likely to get homozygous mutations or variations in your population. And homozygous genetic defects have a more severe impact on the phenotype of the subjects (i.e. anomalies and genetic diseases).

Well, just my layman term then. This is not a subject I have been interested in.

 

[Canto Forte]

All paths converge on a single singularity the size of notti's head that gets swallowed by the reality nimbus and results in more dimensional shenanigans than this game can handle ...

 

[DA22]

I find that unlikely simply because the Chadwick files were dealt with by the command of the Intrepid. I don't think it got higher than that. Chadwick incidents also could have happened after Kelly was posted on Ophion.

Also, the mission was low-threat. Simple transport and resupply with the MC having the extra task of evaluating the station. Nobody seemingly gave much shit about it. But since there is an incoming Marine vessel, I guess that might have changed.


Yep, it was the Viper's mission. Chris was not supposed to be there at all. I just don't see why it would be important to have Chris there and not somebody else?

Well they might be dealt with by command of Intrepid, pretty sure the reports also landed on security desks. Security can be even more paranoid as the military in general and if someone is getting to be trouble, they would show some interest and if one group would be able to pull of such a switch it would be them. It would mean though that such an operation has been planned for quite a while already. Considering Chris her husband and own position though, it is defo not impossible she is considered important enough to field such an operation.

 

[TheDevian]

Well, just my layman term then. This is not a subject I have been interested in.

I lived in the south for a while, so I knew a few people who raised those questions in my mind, and recently I have developed a bigger interest in genetics and such. It's quite fascinating. Now that we have started genetic engineering in our time, by then, there is no telling what they can do.