Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Right.....so let's talk about Amanda.

One of the plus and minuses of upgrading skins and environments and assets generally is that other assets that used to look good/fine no longer do.

This applies especially to Walker's hair. I -loved- the style she had for hair down but sadly it just doesn't have enough strands and so now looks very false, especially in relit scenes. I've tried a shit-ton of stuff on it but it is, I'm afraid, no go.

So, as you've seen, I've been experimenting with all sorts of other hairs to replicate it and again, with no great joy. So, sadly, I'm afraid that look for her hair has to go.

Say, hi to new Amanda...

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As a look I think it works for her tho!

Unpopular opinion incoming... to me the artistic aspect of Heavy Five was perfect the way it was. Dialogue boxes and renders. However I understand that you as an artisan, may wish to reach higher heights and surprising I can't imagine my life without the re-mastered version.. I guess it's like when Scarpia sings that he's dying for 40 minutes vs him singing "muoio" for two weeks.. the former is impressive, the latter is satisfying

 

[Nottravis]

This will take some time getting used to.
Of her old hair, I don't think the lack of strands was much of a problem (women too loose hair when they grow older, some actually do even go almost as bald as some men do, though that's pretty rare), the things I found more distracting were the fuzzyness of the tips and the height at the top. Could always steal

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from ICSTOR and apply some iRay shaders to it?

Sorry by lack of strands on the old hair, I meant lack of detail. It looked plastic due to those lack of strands - like it was painted on her head

The new lighting rigs made it really noticeable sadly. Noted re the Linda tip, but I don't think I'd feel comfortable doing that. I wouldn't want to find myself in a "Milf" war y'know?

 

[Nottravis]

Unpopular opinion incoming... to me the artistic aspect of Heavy Five was perfect the way it was. Dialogue boxes and renders. However I understand that you as an artisan, may wish to reach higher heights and surprising I can't imagine my life without the re-mastered version.. I guess it's like when Scarpia sings that he's dying for 40 minutes vs him singing "muoio" for two weeks.. the former is impressive, the latter is satisfying

Oh don't worry about disagreeing with me on this

I'm amazed that there has been less objection to the remaster work tbh as, understandably, you all want to play Four and not see me pratting around like this.

On the other hand seven new chapters that look, to my mind, aces as opposed to "ok" will be so much better for you (I hope!)

 

[Huitieme]

Right.....so let's talk about Amanda.

One of the plus and minuses of upgrading skins and environments and assets generally is that other assets that used to look good/fine no longer do.

This applies especially to Walker's hair. I -loved- the style she had for hair down but sadly it just doesn't have enough strands and so now looks very false, especially in relit scenes. I've tried a shit-ton of stuff on it but it is, I'm afraid, no go.

So, as you've seen, I've been experimenting with all sorts of other hairs to replicate it and again, with no great joy. So, sadly, I'm afraid that look for her hair has to go.

Say, hi to new Amanda...

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As a look I think it works for her tho!

Her hair have changed, this is true, but there is something about her eye(s) in this render... I don't think I need to make myself clearer

Regarding the hairdo, I have no objection. As you've said, we've only met her once with this style, and although it was quite the impactful meeting, I don't doubt it'll work even better with the new light, the new hair, the new everything.

 

[Oddball2k]

Right.....so let's talk about Amanda.

One of the plus and minuses of upgrading skins and environments and assets generally is that other assets that used to look good/fine no longer do.

This applies especially to Walker's hair. I -loved- the style she had for hair down but sadly it just doesn't have enough strands and so now looks very false, especially in relit scenes. I've tried a shit-ton of stuff on it but it is, I'm afraid, no go.

So, as you've seen, I've been experimenting with all sorts of other hairs to replicate it and again, with no great joy. So, sadly, I'm afraid that look for her hair has to go.

Say, hi to new Amanda...

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As a look I think it works for her tho!

Hi Amanda, please to meet you... I have so many questions to ask you, can we go to your office for a very long chat?

So seriously, she is still the Amanda i remember. The new hair and hair style gives her something more appealing imo... hmm, sexier, no?

 

[Akamari]

Right.....so let's talk about Amanda.

One of the plus and minuses of upgrading skins and environments and assets generally is that other assets that used to look good/fine no longer do.

This applies especially to Walker's hair. I -loved- the style she had for hair down but sadly it just doesn't have enough strands and so now looks very false, especially in relit scenes. I've tried a shit-ton of stuff on it but it is, I'm afraid, no go.

So, as you've seen, I've been experimenting with all sorts of other hairs to replicate it and again, with no great joy. So, sadly, I'm afraid that look for her hair has to go.

Say, hi to new Amanda...

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As a look I think it works for her tho!

Not bad, it still works, but IMO the least appealing of all you've shown us. There are two things I don't like. First, it hides one third of her face, including her eye. I think being able to see both her eyes works much better for her (and you already have Annie kinda going for the same thing). Second, it makes her look "average" with respect of what is a common hairstyle for 40+ year old women in adult games. Where she looked unique, she's now more standard (still far more beautiful than others tho!).

I understand the reason for not keeping the original, but I'm not sure if I will get the same "wow" impact I had when seeing her in the moonlight.

That said, I'm fine with whatever you'll be happy with. After all, it's Amanda's choice (yours in extension) how she does her hair.

Could always steal

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from ICSTOR and apply some iRay shaders to it?

Worst suggestion ever, no offence.

 

[Nottravis]

Not bad, it still works, but IMO the least appealing of all you've shown us. There are two things I don't like. First, it hides one third of her face, including her eye. I think being able to see both her eyes works much better for her (and you already have Annie kinda going for the same thing). Second, it makes her look "average" with respect of what is a common hairstyle for 40+ year old women in adult games. Where she looked unique, she's now more standard (still far more beautiful than others tho!).

I understand the reason for not keeping the original, but I'm not sure if I will get the same "wow" impact I had when seeing her in the moonlight.

That said, I'm fine with whatever you'll be happy with. After all, it's Amanda's choice (yours in extension) how she does her hair.


Worst suggestion ever, no offence.

*nods nods nods*

I'd have preferred to have kept it the same myself but I've spent nearly two days in trying to get the same look, and sadly I just have to cut my losses on this one.

 

[TomberryDude]

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*gives up using this hair*

Fourth time a charm...

This is the best and least ridiculous looking gal over 30 yo I'ever ever seen made with daz3d. Well done.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Sorry by lack of strands on the old hair, I meant lack of detail. It looked plastic due to those lack of strands - like it was painted on her head

The new lighting rigs made it really noticeable sadly. Noted re the Linda tip, but I don't think I'd feel comfortable doing that. I wouldn't want to find myself in a "Milf" war y'know?

Notty, sweet innocent Notty, bless your tiny socks... if you didn't want to be dragged into a Milf war, you should have never made that pregnant Sarah render...now you're defending the flag against waves of shower-peeping-solarpanel-cleaners

 

[TomberryDude]

tiny socks

I... didn't read that word right at first and I was like

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Only about 10 are on topic though.

And whose fault would that be? I know, I know... It's all Notty's fault for leading you astray!

Right.....so let's talk about Amanda.

One of the plus and minuses of upgrading skins and environments and assets generally is that other assets that used to look good/fine no longer do.

This applies especially to Walker's hair. I -loved- the style she had for hair down but sadly it just doesn't have enough strands and so now looks very false, especially in relit scenes. I've tried a shit-ton of stuff on it but it is, I'm afraid, no go.

So, as you've seen, I've been experimenting with all sorts of other hairs to replicate it and again, with no great joy. So, sadly, I'm afraid that look for her hair has to go.

Say, hi to new Amanda...

View attachment 420909

As a look I think it works for her tho!

Erm... While I really like the remastered stuff you've done (no, really, fantastic work!) I'm not a fan of the new hairstyle on Amanda, sorry. It doesn't come across as "Amanda", I know we've only seen here in a couple of scenes, but the whole covering her face/eye doesn't look professional in my eyes. Of course... if this is just a promo shot of her looking sultry (she totes does BTW) then cool, I just thought I would give my opinion for what's it's worth. PS She still looks her age and I would totes ban.. I mean take her out for a lovely meal in the mess hall!

Having said all of this of course, after having a few scenes with her in CH4, her old look will be old news and no-one will ever look back! I mean can anyone remember what Snickers used to be called in the UK? The old name is coming back this year for a limited time!

 

[TomberryDude]

Only about 10 are on topic though.

I blame Huitieme, personally

 

[Nottravis]

I blame Huitieme, personally

*always considers this a good rule of thumb*

 

[TheDevian]

Right.....so let's talk about Amanda.

One of the plus and minuses of upgrading skins and environments and assets generally is that other assets that used to look good/fine no longer do.

This applies especially to Walker's hair. I -loved- the style she had for hair down but sadly it just doesn't have enough strands and so now looks very false, especially in relit scenes. I've tried a shit-ton of stuff on it but it is, I'm afraid, no go.

So, as you've seen, I've been experimenting with all sorts of other hairs to replicate it and again, with no great joy. So, sadly, I'm afraid that look for her hair has to go.

Say, hi to new Amanda...

View attachment 420909

As a look I think it works for her tho!

Ah, was going to say, if there just were not enough strands, could try doubling down, but that wasn't your problem anyway... XD

I can't say I dislike this one. Good choice even if I did like it better longer.

 

[Huitieme]

I blame Huitieme, personally

*always considers this a good rule of thumb*

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

I blame Huitieme, personally

*always considers this a good rule of thumb*

He's the source of all evil... probably the trouble on ophion can be attributed to the huitieme paradox...

 

[Nottravis]

I can't say I dislike this one. Good choice even if I did like it better longer.

Thanks. Sadly no "hair longer" slider on this one, which is a bugger

Erm... While I really like the remastered stuff you've done (no, really, fantastic work!) I'm not a fan of the new hairstyle on Amanda, sorry. It doesn't come across as "Amanda", I know we've only seen here in a couple of scenes, but the whole covering her face/eye doesn't look professional in my eyes. Of course... if this is just a promo shot of her looking sultry (she totes does BTW) then cool, I just thought I would give my opinion for what's it's worth. PS She still looks her age and I would totes ban.. I mean take her out for a lovely meal in the mess hall!

Having said all of this of course, after having a few scenes with her in CH4, her old look will be old news and no-one will ever look back! I mean can anyone remember what Snickers used to be called in the UK? The old name is coming back this year for a limited time!

*nods nods*

Well the hair does move *considers this somewhat important!*

But no, not a promo of her looking sultry - well, if we accept that when she has hair down she's -not- trying to look sultry. Opinion may be divided on that. . No sultry glamour looks more like this I think for her...



But, I take the point. Sadly there is little I can do about it. I mean, you've all seen me try to replicate the

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(and if you look at some of the promo pics you can see what I mean about the painted on effect) but with no joy. Certainly not to a standard that would be acceptable and especially not when stood next to someone else.

 

[Huitieme]

He's the source of all evil... probably the trouble on ophion can be attributed to the huitieme paradox...

All around me are familiar faces, traitors and asses

 

[TheDevian]

Thanks. Sadly no "hair longer" slider on this one, which is a bugger



*nods nods*

Well the hair does move *considers this somewhat important!*

But no, not a promo of her looking sultry - well, if we accept that when she has hair down she's -not- trying to look sultry. Opinion may be divided on that. . No sultry glamour looks more like this I think for her...

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But, I take the point. Sadly there is little I can do about it. I mean, you've all seen me try to replicate the

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(and if you look at some of the promo pics you can see what I mean about the painted on effect) but with no joy. Certainly not to a standard that would be acceptable and especially not when stood next to someone else.

Yeah, that is frustrating, but now she has that sexy teacher thing going on... so win!

 

[Nottravis]

All around me are familiar faces, traitors and asses
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....and back with the water again, I see *shakes head sadly*