It's all about whether it's a reasonable amount of time spent on the work, right? And that's always going to be partially subjective.
As the great Dean Martin once said, that's life, guys.
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popabear I'm sorry if it came too harsh from me. I know you mean well and I didn't intend to question your support.
However, I think it's important to appreciate all the work done on the game. Not just the kind that will make the release, but also all the work that ends up being stepping stones for further improvements, and yes all the work that is identified as flawed and has to be redone. I think it's safe to say that vast majority of errors (if not all) that required significant time to fix were new. Notty does learn from her mistakes, so the positive thing to take out of them is that they are unlikely to happen again.
No need to worry, she'll make it.
However, I think it's important to appreciate all the work done on the game. Not just the kind that will make the release, but also all the work that ends up being stepping stones for further improvements, and yes all the work that is identified as flawed and has to be redone. I think it's safe to say that vast majority of errors (if not all) that required significant time to fix were new. Notty does learn from her mistakes, so the positive thing to take out of them is that they are unlikely to happen again.
No need to worry, she'll make it.
I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, I will take quality over quantity almost every time.
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I'd say only the first edge is sharp. Honestly, I can't remember a single instance where I would think Notty's last minute improvement wouldn't result into, well, an improvement. I think her perfectionism is more on the positive side, and results of it make the game better. Don't we all want the game to be the best it can be?
I’m not sure every marginal improvement is worth the extra development time.I'd say only the first edge is sharp. Honestly, I can't remember a single instance where I would think Notty's last minute improvement wouldn't result into, well, an improvement. I think her perfectionism is more on the positive side, and results of it make the game better. Don't we all want the game to be the best it can be?
I want the game to be good and i accept that’s how she works but Equally i’d Like to play it.
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Well, marginal improvements typically take only marginal time.
What Notty's doing now for example about one Chris's route sounds far from marginal.
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Fuck. I was trying to tell myself to shut up now and not stir any more shit. But 2 glasses of wine later and that promise went out the window.
It also seems extremely excessive to treat every chapter release as a full game release, with quality control and thorough testing at every step. I mean bug fixing I can understand, that's the kind of flaw that can make anyone go "fuck this shit" and uninstall if it's too bad. But aesthetic polish? Not worth. That can get collected with feedback after release and fixed after the fact without problems or having it cause severe delays.
I'm starting to like the devs that just dump what they have done every month, even if the cutoff point doesn't make 100 % sense. That way I can just wait a few months before downloading if I want to experience it in larger chunks. It also seems more fair and transparent to the patreons, as it shows what has actually been done. I don't think Notty will ever do this though, I'm just saying it has it's merits too.
I'm decidedly undecided here. If you project the current development pace into the future (1.5 years for 2 chapters) then we'll see the full game 5-7 years from now (Ok that's not a fair comparison I know ch 3 is almost out, but it was almost out at the start of April too, with first week of April as projected release date. Well it's pretty much May now so I don't really know what to make of that). I've been around long enough to know by now that any projected date of any kind will be delayed at least two weeks, but more likely a month or several months.
It also seems extremely excessive to treat every chapter release as a full game release, with quality control and thorough testing at every step. I mean bug fixing I can understand, that's the kind of flaw that can make anyone go "fuck this shit" and uninstall if it's too bad. But aesthetic polish? Not worth. That can get collected with feedback after release and fixed after the fact without problems or having it cause severe delays.
I'm starting to like the devs that just dump what they have done every month, even if the cutoff point doesn't make 100 % sense. That way I can just wait a few months before downloading if I want to experience it in larger chunks. It also seems more fair and transparent to the patreons, as it shows what has actually been done. I don't think Notty will ever do this though, I'm just saying it has it's merits too.
No worries man. I'm not one to take offense lightly. Besides, it's just your opinion, dude
No offense taken. I just hope I don't have to wait 5 more years to see the rest of the story.popabear I'm sorry if it came too harsh from me. I know you mean well and I didn't intend to question your support.
However, I think it's important to appreciate all the work done on the game. Not just the kind that will make the release, but also all the work that ends up being stepping stones for further improvements, and yes all the work that is identified as flawed and has to be redone. I think it's safe to say that vast majority of errors (if not all) that required significant time to fix were new. Notty does learn from her mistakes, so the positive thing to take out of them is that they are unlikely to happen again.
No need to worry, she'll make it.
I want the best game it can be, within a reasonable timeframe. Is 5 more years reasonable? I honestly don't know. I'm feeling the fanboy in me fatigue already.I'd say only the first edge is sharp. Honestly, I can't remember a single instance where I would think Notty's last minute improvement wouldn't result into, well, an improvement. I think her perfectionism is more on the positive side, and results of it make the game better. Don't we all want the game to be the best it can be?
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Message from Notty today on her forum. Testing round 3 has started. Now lets hope they find nothing that is not small and easily fixed (Oh and yes I do expect them to be honest if fair, or they will be in trouble. Remember I know who you are ) :
Right, it's with the guys so I'll leave it with the boys to rip it to shreads whilst I fuck off and have a jaffa cake...
) :Right, it's with the guys so I'll leave it with the boys to rip it to shreads whilst I fuck off and have a jaffa cake...
Beta sent to the testers this morning... Boy is it fucking great!
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Yep, in the Remastered version you can choose a gender and a race (black/white).
Nice, I waiting for this one so much time, I can't stand play as male protagonist.
And each choice feels different enough that each playthrough adds something new. Other characters won't react and treat you the same depending on your gender and skin color.
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I would wait a little, they are testing the remasterd version of chapter 2 atm, if no big bugs it should be here in a reasonable short time.
Well it worth waiting. I already dowloded it. mith mage file
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I would be thrilled if CH.2R could drop on the 11th of May. It will be the day marking the end of the confinement in my country. What better gift I could ask for to celebrate this, than staying home and wanking furiously while discovering the hard work of Notty
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Not better day before, then you can wank the night away before celebrating your freedom? Well it will be out when it will be out anyway.I would be thrilled if CH.2R could drop on the 11th of May. It will be the day marking the end of the confinement in my country.
What better gift I could ask for to celebrate this, than staying home and wanking furiously while discovering the hard work of Notty