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Yes, CH2 contains CH1. CH3 is also not far from release.
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I just started the game a few minutes ago. One minor thing respectfully passed on for consideration.
Options available to the MC so far involved more or less adhering to military protocol but he is getting the protocol wrong.
Military personnel doesn't salute indoors (or onboard) except when formally reporting to an officer, such as when called to the commander's office or...as in the case of the MC, when reporting to his new ship. A lieutenant in any branch of service in any nation would not order someone to salute him indoors/onboard since he would be breaching protocol, unless he were in his office and the lower rank was reporting to him.
A salute is maintained until the officer either returns the salute or tells you to drop it.
When reporting to a new ship, he shouldn't stop to chat with anyone. He needs to make a b-line to the commander of the ship and say, "Lieutenant MainCharacter reporting as ordered, sir." Salute and wait for the response. He is not free to go anywhere on the ship until the commander welcomes him aboard.
Just minor things vets notice when we see them done incorrectly in civilian life. Simple things like saluting or when to wear your hat become deeply ingrained and it's jarring when we see them misused, mishandled, or disrespected. But we know to a civilian, none of that means a thing. Just saying though...we notice.
Takes 30 seconds to Google stuff nowadays, so all this info is easy to find if you are interested in accuracy!
Options available to the MC so far involved more or less adhering to military protocol but he is getting the protocol wrong.
Military personnel doesn't salute indoors (or onboard) except when formally reporting to an officer, such as when called to the commander's office or...as in the case of the MC, when reporting to his new ship. A lieutenant in any branch of service in any nation would not order someone to salute him indoors/onboard since he would be breaching protocol, unless he were in his office and the lower rank was reporting to him.
A salute is maintained until the officer either returns the salute or tells you to drop it.
When reporting to a new ship, he shouldn't stop to chat with anyone. He needs to make a b-line to the commander of the ship and say, "Lieutenant MainCharacter reporting as ordered, sir." Salute and wait for the response. He is not free to go anywhere on the ship until the commander welcomes him aboard.
Just minor things vets notice when we see them done incorrectly in civilian life. Simple things like saluting or when to wear your hat become deeply ingrained and it's jarring when we see them misused, mishandled, or disrespected. But we know to a civilian, none of that means a thing. Just saying though...we notice.
Takes 30 seconds to Google stuff nowadays, so all this info is easy to find if you are interested in accuracy!
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oh erhm they never said which military and what exactly their standards are, when which ones changed and all that. i for instance know military groups that never salute. you don't expose higher-ups like that. also there may or may not be a time window in which to report. there's more, remote posts may adapt the standards to 'blend in' with environment and so on. i wouldn't take it too close to the point. at ease.
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Out on the battle field is one thing, reporting to duty on a ship is quite different and if you're going to get shot at for saluting, well there's more things to worry about
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Dev is ex-military so I'm sure she knows what she's doing
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While I generally agree with you, we also have to take into account that this is happening in the future.
While military certainly values tradition and sticks to it as much as possible, things still change with time. In most cases due to strictly practical reasons but it wouldn't be such a stretch to assume that saluting indoors became a thing because space naval personnel spend vast majority of their time indoors or something similar...
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This isn't a military sci-fi VN, this is a sci-fi vn with a bit of space navy themes and sexy content. It does not need to be 100% accurate with regards to a minor thing as saluting. Now if this was to be a historical non-fiction VN I could understand the need to be accurate.
Honestly just sit back and enjoy the game.
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Military doesn't stick to things as much as possible. That's a civilian concept. Military just does it or not. If there isn't an SOP, the higher ups will write one.
But, I see what you're saying. Changes in procedures.
Probably not as you described since salute protocol has been the same pretty much throughout military history when saluting became a Thing, relatively unchanged worldwide. Something like that doesn't change without reason. I mean...what's the point even considering changes like that as a writer in the first place? Just spend 30 seconds on Google and move on.
Its unlikely that in the future it will become protocol for saluting at the ramp in a spaceport docking bay. If it was, then why did she not salute him? Service people don't make mistakes like that. They are as likely to forget how to dress and put their underwear on the outside after putting their pants on. Service people only forget to salute in training, and in movie or TV. She didn't salute him as he approached because she isn't supposed to. The Lieutenant needs to read his SOP (hehe).
If the writer wanted to give him something for the MC to be a hardnose about, she could have had her shirt untucked or something like that. Don't have to invent a procedure. I've personally had my head ripped off by a 2nd Lt (lowest rank USAF officer) for missing a button on my uniform at the Chow Hall! One of the reasons why I avoided going to the Chow Hall in uniform.
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The other thing to remember is that the MC only goes down the whole "I deserve a salute" path if they are being a bit of a dick.
Another thing is that this the Notty's game, she can write it how she wants to.
I'm not saying anyone is wrong here, just deal with it or move on.
Another thing is that this the Notty's game, she can write it how she wants to.
I'm not saying anyone is wrong here, just deal with it or move on.
Also, remember that the US military is not the only military around, and they do not all have the same regulations. The dev is a Brit, so that is another thing to keep in mind.
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Something to consider is that salute protocol might in fact be the same in this world but MC is just being a huge dick and Sarah just freaks out and salute even though she's not supposed to.
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I'll just point out that you seem to be missing the circumstances. He doesn't report to a new ship. The player Lieutenant is essentially a passenger from a different branch with his own mission different from that of the flight crew. He is of equal rank as the commanding officer of the transport shuttle.
Well, she is fairly new to the service. And part of her personality is that she can get easily distracted.
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Knowing Notty, I bet it is accurate though.