VN Ren'Py Abandoned Inizialization [Prologue] [Yupiii]

[Kalsan]

Yes, I'll have to do different variations of all sorts of scenes and character interactions, I've been thinking about it, don't worry, I'm not 15 years old.

Well you do you man.

 

[bobdillan]

Why not all of them?
Now there are not enough hands for everything at once, and in the future, why not.

Because you will lose majority of harem, incest, and vanilla fans if you included the others. In part because it ruins a characters personality by the mere fact the other route exists. And that said fans have a low tolerance.

So if your main demographic is harem/vanilla/romance/incest, I would keep it sole male MC content wise. Now if you are genuinely wanting to be an all rounder then by all means, just know you will not be having a lot of those demographics, it isn't a "include all genres and get all demographics" since they are heavily conflicting/antagonistic genres, and those niches are quite hated by the majority of those demographics.

Most devs never realise or experience this, because it is something you don't obviously see, since it is growth that is damaged and not current audience, which can have any number of other reasons (people just don't like the game itself, not enough exposure etc.).
Such concepts are more of an advanced marketing thing, and knowing your audience. (like can't stress this enough, KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE, doesn't matter which you pick, learn about them and know them).

Also make a dev note that you will have such content so they can go an avoid the game now, and you won't be getting people angry out you because they felt blindsided because they didn't know (not everyone reads the thread).

 

[PapaPhat]

Because you will lose majority of harem, incest, and vanilla fans if you included the others. In part because it ruins a characters personality by the mere fact the other route exists. And that said fans have a low tolerance.

So if your main demographic is harem/vanilla/romance/incest, I would keep it sole male MC content wise. Now if you are genuinely wanting to be an all rounder then by all means, just know you will not be having a lot of those demographics, it isn't a "include all genres and get all demographics" since they are heavily conflicting/antagonistic genres, and those niches are quite hated by the majority of those demographics.

Also make a dev note that you will have such content so they can go an avoid the game now, and you won't be getting people angry out you because they felt blindsided because they didn't know (not everyone reads the thread).

I agree, my friend. Best to choose one path and stick to it.

I said I would give the prologue a go so I will. However, after this fucked up bit of nonsense in forums this evening, I highly doubt I will keep it. Trying to please everyone just pisses off the majority and leaves you with a rather slim minority.

Adventure ever on, Phat

 

[Yupiiii]

We can argue endlessly judge me by deeds and not by words.

 

[Yupiiii]

As for the routes, I rather thought that the character has two routes, something like the usual one, and his other version is more depraved, which you may not even know about and will not find out, and it's up to you to climb there or not.

 

[Yupiiii]

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I definitely don't want to make a revolution and breakthrough in porn games))

Please note that I'm not promising anything while I'm just thinking about the implementation, I have time to think about everything and read your opinions while I'm busy with the main plot.

 

[Harem Trooper]

Woah...This.Was.AWESOME !
But also give me mixed feelings...

The SFW animation scenes...reminds me of stalker or metro, Great done!. And the atmosphere is pretty dope.
I really like the setting and how its phased out. The scene with the burka girl where you hear outside kids talking/playing and also muffled TV...just wow.
The set up for the red hair, which will life with the MC in the same room or the scene in the grocery store is chefs kiss good.
Tina scene is good but if it ends like it did I would been disappointed. Hope there will be more of plot for her actions, MC actions ( talking about the "meds" and "plan" ) her character and hopefully we will gonna meet her again.

There was also a scene where I almost thought the MC wouldnt help a specific girl out when she dropped the milk/groceries and she was crying... thank god we have the option to help her ( He could helped her MORE, but at least its something...). Otherwise I would rage quited the game lol.
There is SO MUCH details like these which baffled me. Wish EVERY porn game would be doing this as a standard.
I clearly can see a Harem being build up here, or its just a very good old-fashioned one-single waifu experience. Would prefer the Harem.

You wont get info-dumped, the scenario are easy to understand but also make you interesting to know what happend earlier or what will happen next. The world building is good, very good. You know thats something is different going on since its a dystopian/post apocalyptic setting, but you wont feel out of place since much of the stuff told or was shown is plausible.

The "engrish" is kinda there, some polish would be neet, but its servable. You will understand whats is going on but when it comes to details you will struggle. If the story gets more complex, then it will be very hard to follow up.

There is not much naughty stuff here however the one sex scene was shown in pretty quality stuff ( no scat for me thanks ) and the "plot" balances that, at least for me.
But damn, the Tina sex scene...woah. Not only one of the best male-dome scenes ever, not only one of the lengthiest I ever saw, but also one of the best Rimjobs I saw in the game. If the game continues with this quality of sex scenes im fucking sold!

Some models looks weird, like that one from Stacy or Gloria, Sue, Lyria ( she looks like she just shaved her beard ). Well, many models are kinda meh. I think this will be the biggest deal breaker for the people.
Some scenes too. Like this handshake. ( This one looks like they belong to a starved soyboy greeting his fellow Bull for some cucking )

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But its done on purpose:

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By the way, the Handsome MC lol:

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I tried the uncompressed version but it still looks like it was compressed.
Despite all this, this game made me curious about the story itself now, I know lol, came for the fap, stayed for the story.
Imagine this game with proper Daz3D models...

P.S
What are the chance that the girl in the booth will be a part in the story ? The one who was talking to the fat guy during the animation scene in the tunnel ?

 

[Yupiiii]

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Everything in this story will be revealed over time, and I will also tell you why gg is such a skeleton.

As for the models, somewhere I added too much contrast and sharpness, by the way, I also had similar thoughts that they seemed to have shaved.

About the girl in the booth and all the other models that you have seen, you will meet with everyone more than once))

 

[Harem Trooper]

About the girl in the booth and all the other models that you have seen, you will meet with everyone more than once))

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Will the MC buff up ? Like at least getting normal ? How Sci Fi is the setting in the first place ?

About the histeria people already trying to make about the future fetishes, tho I agree planned tags would be great to know before we jump into the action. *caugh Lust Gaess *caugh

Personally I dont see NTR here. At least if its planned its disguised pretty well. But you said you didnt even know yourself what you will add fetish wise. If this will be added a head up warning would be also neet.
In the end, as long its avoidable and not only skippable I dont care much about that issue. But then it begs the question did you thought the story through to the end ?

 

[KKonaBROthere]

I just cannot vibe with the way fucking long cutscenes of shit that doesnt need to be forced as a cutscene in which i have to sit and watch the slowest cinematic ever created, every 20 sentences. Impressive as the renders are; its like subjecting myself to watching a documentary. Like you had it right the time MC is on walking to and on the beach before visiting the store, but went right back to forced 60-80 second cutscenes

 

[Yupiiii]

Everything in this story will be revealed over time, and I will also tell you why gg is such a skeleton.

As for the models, somewhere I added too much contrast and sharpness, by the way, I also had similar thoughts that they seemed to have shaved.

About the girl in the booth and all the other models that you have seen, you will meet with everyone more than once))

They only lack sound))

Thank you very much!
In the next update, I will try to take into account all my shortcomings and fix the old ones.

 

[Yupiiii]

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Would you be surprised if I even know the end of my story??))
I read it wrong)) Yes, I know the end of my story.
I won't say that I thought it through to the smallest detail, but I know all the key points.

 

[Yupiiii]

I just cannot vibe with the way fucking long cutscenes of shit that doesnt need to be forced as a cutscene in which i have to sit and watch the slowest cinematic ever created, every 20 sentences. Impressive as the renders are; its like subjecting myself to watching a documentary. Like you had it right the time MC is on walking to and on the beach before visiting the store, but went right back to forced 60-80 second cutscenes

Yes, not all my decisions were good.

 

[KKonaBROthere]

I'll say this though, If you were to at some point go back and continuing going forward used them more sparingly as say new character meets for the first time, peeping on a character if you're on their path etc. It'd be probably better imo

 

[Yupiiii]

I'll say this though, If you were to at some point go back and continuing going forward used them more sparingly as say new character meets for the first time, peeping on a character if you're on their path etc. It'd be probably better imo

In fact, my possibilities are limitless, I can do anything, the main thing is that it would not be tedious and monotonous.

 

[bobdillan]

I definitely don't want to make a revolution and breakthrough in porn games))

Please note that I'm not promising anything while I'm just thinking about the implementation, I have time to think about everything and read your opinions while I'm busy with the main plot.

Not asking you to promise anything my guy.
Am just stating some facts, with antagonistic content you can't have both, you have to pick which is more important and accept the loss.

What you do with that information and the choices you make are yours, I just want to help you be informed when making said choices.

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Also, should go without saying, don't add things you yourself hate (dislike is a bit different), will just make it hell to develop.

 

[bobdillan]

I agree, my friend. Best to choose one path and stick to it.

I said I would give the prologue a go so I will. However, after this fucked up bit of nonsense in forums this evening, I highly doubt I will keep it. Trying to please everyone just pisses off the majority and leaves you with a rather slim minority.

Adventure ever on, Phat

Just make your life simple my friend.
Have zero tolerance, only make an exception if you really really like something about it (art-style story etc.).

However if you do make sure it is a clearly avoidable (Some devs be out here calling it avoidable when it is skippable), and not on a character you care about (since... if they would do it.. they would do it ).

Makes things a lot more simple, and you nuke a bunch of games from the ever growing mass that there is.

 

[Yupiiii]

Not asking you to promise anything my guy.
Am just stating some facts, with antagonistic content you can't have both, you have to pick which is more important and accept the loss.

What you do with that information and the choices you make are yours, I just want to help you be informed when making said choices.

Spoiler: Bonus stuff (point has been made but this is just aditional info on that topic).

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Also, should go without saying, don't add things you yourself hate (dislike is a bit different), will just make it hell to develop.

I don't want to sound silly to you, who doesn't understand your words, but I think you can somehow combine or weave everything together so it's a different experience for everyone, I've already defined the storyline, but there are a bunch more side stories I can tell or not tell, I can easily and secretly give you choices when it becomes clear what you like and dislike, and show them that way. The experience is different for everyone, of course I exaggerate, but I hope you understand what I mean.

 

[PapaPhat]

Just make your life simple my friend.
Have zero tolerance, only make an exception if you really really like something about it (art-style story etc.).

However if you do make sure it is a clearly avoidable (Some devs be out here calling it avoidable when it is skippable), and not on a character you care about (since... if they would do it.. they would do it ).

Makes things a lot more simple, and you nuke a bunch of games from the ever growing mass that there is.

Friend, I am a father and a grandfather... I've been around this block a few hundred dozen times now. Hahaha

I'm beginning to think this dev is at least slightly delusional, thinking that he can somehow combine all the tags he mentioned in a single story and ever finish it or that anyone will care to play it. This has me even more curious to see what is in that prologue now so I still plan to see at least that much. But, I fail to see how combining such a laundry list of competing tags will do anything but drive folks away in droves. Even if the dev does not fully disclose all of the tags he mentioned earlier, this website WILL. Most users of this site put far too much stock in the tag system and the list this dev proposed will do nothing more than confuse folks or thoroughly piss them off.

I have played many hundreds of titles from this site over the last several years. I only recently signed up for an account. I've been here for many years. I have a curious streak that even makes cats jealous. I look at a lot of games, AVN and kinetic AVN titles that have tags for things I actually hate, like NTR. I have seen more than I care to see in many respects but that is how I have found some of the gems that are now cherished parts of my ever expanding collection. I also run a lot of them right into my recycle bin. About once every other month, I go through and clean out all of my AVN folders, the WIP folder and both of my testing folders... not even my completed game folder is completely safe as I drop games from there sometimes too.

So, no worries, my friend. Old Phat knows how to delete the bullshit when I find it. Anyway... I'm just rambling on at this point...

Adventure ever on, Phat

 

[d_pedestrian]

trying out a new update
Me : WTF? This update didn't last even for 5 minutes
Dev : This update would have been longer if you had let that girl shit on you.

You see the problem now? You can't please everyone.