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fatki_chaddi

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I know what you're asking and you're not going to get it.

By the time it took you to answer all the damn questions that would be actually be required, you could have just skipped through the content (it takes 15 to 20 mins btw by my estimation making my new saves)....

15 fucking minutes of your time. There are far too many variables affecting dialogue, scenes, and a whole boat-load of other stuff (going back to the second release) that have not even been referenced yet in-game, such as GambitPlayer. It would take hours to do what you want...and probably 10 minutes for you to actually answer all the damn questions (if you could even remember, which you can't...so you're point is completely moot isn't it as you won't remember what half of those choices were actually for, why you made them, or what they affect anyway). Points are also incredibly important at times in terms of triggering or missing a scene. And those don't all come from the major decisions.

So load up the VN, spend 15 minutes of your life making a new save and as I said before, I suggest making a note somewhere (we're in twenty twenty fecking four btw), you don't even need a piece of paper, (which is how we used to make notes on shit in games 40 years ago), there are about 5000 different programs around to choose, so you won't forget what choices you made again ;)

In fact, by the time you been wittering on here, you could have already made 2 new saves ;)

And because I'm nice....to just to show how ridiculous what you're asking is, here's some stats for you that would all need taking into account:

Kane: 108 flags, 25 different character (_p) points (some not even referenced yet)
Olivia: 36 flags, 9 different character (_p) points
Seth: 2 flags, 2 different character (_p) points


19 misc point variables between KaneLivia (such as cunning, Gambit Queen, Princess Eyes etc etc that would all have to be calculated), with approximately another 15-20 set of points/variables (some temporary) that decide certain events (like who meet first etc) with many of these not even implemented/referenced yet. (Add in things like Evil points, where literally 1 point can can completely skip a scenes).

And that...is just to the end of episode 6!!! (still working on my sheet for Ep7).

Exactly in your mind...how many questions at the start of Ep8 do you think it would take? Seriously...tell me, really curious as to what you think.

(Attached image of my save sheet. Still a WIP as fully go through Ep7 again. Again, will upload once I have everything in order re my prevous post here: SaveSheet/Timeline/Character List)

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I know what you're asking and you're not going to get it.

By the time it took you to answer all the damn questions that would be actually be required, you could have just skipped through the content (it takes 15 to 20 mins btw by my estimation making my new saves)....

15 fucking minutes of your time. There are far too many variables affecting dialogue, scenes, and a whole boat-load of other stuff (going back to the second release) that have not even been referenced yet in-game, such as GambitPlayer. It would take hours to do what you want...and probably 10 minutes for you to actually answer all the damn questions (if you could even remember, which you can't...so you're point is completely moot isn't it as you won't remember what half of those choices were actually for, why you made them, or what they affect anyway). Points are also incredibly important at times in terms of triggering or missing a scene. And those don't all come from the major decisions.

So load up the VN, spend 15 minutes of your life making a new save and as I said before, I suggest making a note somewhere (we're in twenty twenty fecking four btw), you don't even need a piece of paper, (which is how we used to make notes on shit in games 40 years ago), there are about 5000 different programs around to choose, so you won't forget what choices you made again ;)

In fact, by the time you been wittering on here, you could have already made 2 new saves ;)

And because I'm nice....to just to show how ridiculous what you're asking is, here's some stats for you that would all need taking into account:

Kane: 108 flags, 25 different character (_p) points (some not even referenced yet)
Olivia: 36 flags, 9 different character (_p) points
Seth: 2 flags, 2 different character (_p) points


19 misc point variables between KaneLivia (such as cunning, Gambit Queen, Princess Eyes etc etc that would all have to be calculated), with approximately another 15-20 set of points/variables (some temporary) that decide certain events (like who meet first etc) with many of these not even implemented/referenced yet. (Add in things like Evil points, where literally 1 point can can completely skip a scenes).

And that...is just to the end of episode 6!!! (still working on my sheet for Ep7).

Exactly in your mind...how many questions at the start of Ep8 do you think it would take? Seriously...tell me, really curious as to what you think.

(Attached image of my save sheet. Still a WIP as fully go through Ep7 again. Again, will upload once I have everything in order re my prevous post here: SaveSheet/Timeline/Character List)

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Thanks for your reply too...

I get it, it is next to impossible to achieve it with those variable and flags.
 
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Maviarab

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Absolutely it does. Thanks again for taking the time out and replying with reasons. It makes so much sense now.
No worries.

I'll also take this time to apologise for my tone as you obviously didn't seem to comrehend that in this particular VN, it would be such a huge undertaking as Sancho said, with no real pay off given how quickly you can skip through. So, I'm sorry if I came off overly agressive. These types of posts happen in lots of threads here and after the nnnnth post asking for a recap it gets old...but that's not your fault per-se...I should learn to be more gracious :)

Anyway, if you'd like the sheet in it's current format I'd be happy to upload for you now, though hoping to have Ep7 done by weekend. The reason I did it is while Sancho's mod is truly bloody awesome (and I do use it myself)...with so many saves...switching back and forth to check something is a pain..so decided to make a text version I can easily flip through myself (I use multiple monitors so easy for me to have it up all the time), otherwise over the weekend I'll just upload the entire thing which has a full character list with relations, full detailed timeline and other interesting stuff which I find relevent.
 

fatki_chaddi

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No worries.

I'll also take this time to apologise for my tone as you obviously didn't seem to comrehend that in this particular VN, it would be such a huge undertaking as Sancho said, with no real pay off given how quickly you can skip through. So, I'm sorry if I came off overly agressive. These types of posts happen in lots of threads here and after the nnnnth post asking for a recap it gets old...but that's not your fault per-se...I should learn to be more gracious :)

Anyway, if you'd like the sheet in it's current format I'd be happy to upload for you now, though hoping to have Ep7 done by weekend. The reason I did it is while Sancho's mod is truly bloody awesome (and I do use it myself)...with so many saves...switching back and forth to check something is a pain..so decided to make a text version I can easily flip through myself (I use multiple monitors so easy for me to have it up all the time), otherwise over the weekend I'll just upload the entire thing which has a full character list with relations, full detailed timeline and other interesting stuff which I find relevent.
Its ok, I can understand how it must be to explain things repeatedly. We are all humans afterall.

And yes it was the explanation from both of you that just mapped out the extensive scope of this VN, Thanks again for it.

About the sheet, you can upload it for us commoners once its completed.
 
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MilesEdgeworth

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So is evil Dom path going to be gone for the final update? If so I don't need to carry that save over. Still waiting on the final release update and the Sancho mod, I'm not in a rush so test doesn't matter to me.
she's not removing anything yet, just considering it. If she removes the demon path it will be the update after this one at the earliest
 

Maviarab

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So is evil Dom path going to be gone for the final update? If so I don't need to carry that save over. Still waiting on the final release update and the Sancho mod, I'm not in a rush so test doesn't matter to me.
One of those jump to conclusions and can't read for shit folks huh? In the time it took you to post...you could have read 3 or 4 posts and had your question answered by a few of us,..and Tess herself.
 
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YuNobi1

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Man...shit is just not fair..

Why is it sooo haaarrrd to turn Dominique down :(
Bro, I don't WANT to turn her down, haha. I'm riding that train all the way to the finish line. I'm pretty sure I burned my last bridge with Juliette in this update.
 

Maviarab

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Bro, I don't WANT to turn her down, haha. I'm riding that train all the way to the finish line. I'm pretty sure I burned my last bridge with Juliette in this update.
Hahaha...

I'm being very selective with romance paths on each save until I know for sure what Tess has planned for them. I'm hoping the T2/Other romances will not be mutually exclusive with the T1's but I can imagine all the T1's will not play nicely with each other (nor will the submissive romance arcs). We shall see I guess.
 

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Hahaha...

I'm being very selective with romance paths on each save until I know for sure what Tess has planned for them. I'm hoping the T2/Other romances will not be mutually exclusive with the T1's but I can imagine all the T1's will not play nicely with each other (nor will the submissive romance arcs). We shall see I guess.
Maviarab, you're an expert in this game right?
Is it possible to have a romance with Dominique in the dom/good route? In my case, it opens a romance with Junko :unsure:.
 

YuNobi1

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Maviarab, you're an expert in this game right?
Is it possible to have a romance with Dominique in the dom/good route? In my case, it opens a romance with Junko :unsure:.
Dominique will go for Dom period, and then the player dictates her good-evil spectrum (only sister that this is possible), so as long as your Kane holds the same morality you set for Dominique (a la "Princess Eyes" for Olivia), then she is romanceable. Junko needs a GoodDom.
 

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Maviarab, you're an expert in this game right?
Is it possible to have a romance with Dominique in the dom/good route? In my case, it opens a romance with Junko :unsure:.
Dominique will go for Dom period, and then the player dictates her good-evil spectrum (only sister that this is possible), so as long as your Kane holds the same morality you set for Dominique (a la "Princess Eyes" for Olivia), then she is romanceable. Junko needs a GoodDom.
Heh..I'd like to think so...but...I'm sure there's others with more knowledge than me...

However, I will add to Yu's comment:

Dominiques romance path is a T1 romance (I believe on both good/evil paths). You do not have to open the Junko romance in order to aquire it, however it is recommended (assuming you're a good/dom). It's also recommended (imo) to ensure you get the Meet Dominique trigger (do not get 2 meet V points, 2 points activates her instead regardless of how many meet points you have with anyone else btw).

That aside, even if you do have the JunkoRomanceOpen flag set, you can break it in the spa scene with Katsumi, Chanel, Deliliah and Maria. If not broken here, you can break it (if good/JunkoRomanceOpen/DominiqueSponsor) the morning after Dominique ranks you up herself from K6 to K7 (bypassing anyone else as a perk of her sponsership). Junko wakes you up and confesses her feelings to you. You can end the romance there (or keep it open..doesn't matter).

As a small aside: Do not screw Dominique over by not picking to meet Veronica for first corpo training...bad...very bad (do pick dominique to lose sponsorship though if you want her dark path muhha haa haaaa, though you can meet someone else first once arrived at Joy Facility...then when meet the three sisters, pick Dom first for corpo training to get her dark side..just have min 4 evil points to trigger option tpo get DominiquesTestPass flag. Regardless, if you get Jules' or V's sponsorship first, this is the section where you pickup Dom's sponsorship if you did not get it first)

Anyway, carrying on:

On Game Day 07 (Joy Facility Day 5: Program Day 04) Dominique will take you to her house in the mines (this after your first W2 pod training session). She will then come on to you heavily and at this point you have options. Decline (-2 rel points) or accept. If for some reason, you still have the JunkRomanceOpen flag, then the dialogue changes from Dominique and you can cheat on Junko. Matters not to the Dominique romance (yet at least). This is the start of her romance arc and you will get the DominiqueRomanceOpen flag set. For now...this is purely a friends with benefit relationship (at the end of ep7).


After all that, I'm quickly coming to the realisation that I may be a little obsessed with KG lol.
 
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SlowGoesSlow

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Dominique‘s path has to be one of the easiest dom paths to hit in the game. I’ve had a few runs when I’ve done nothing with her and she still jumps you.
 

Maviarab

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Dominique‘s path has to be one of the easiest dom paths to hit in the game. I’ve had a few runs when I’ve done nothing with her and she still jumps you.
Heh completely agree but there are advantages to keeping her happy earlier and pleasing her. She's actually my fave sister (forgetting Olivia for a moment) and one of my fave characters. It's really hard as I said before to not chase her...the fact she also possibly the hottest sister too (Again, Olivia aside for a moment) is a perk heh.

And besides, who doesn't like an older experienced women eh? ;)
 

SlowGoesSlow

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Heh completely agree but there are advantages to keeping her happy earlier and pleasing her. She's actually my fave sister (forgetting Olivia for a moment) and one of my fave characters. It's really hard as I said before to not chase her...the fact she also possibly the hottest sister too (Again, Olivia aside for a moment) is a perk heh.

And besides, who doesn't like an older experienced women eh? ;)
Good taste, she’s a neat character. I really like her too, she opens up a lot of cool future storylines.
 
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