VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Masterofdisaste]

Because we are under surveillance. Although I'm her patreon and in discord, I'm used to spend my time here discussing with fellow dom minded players as their server is not that welcoming to dom players in the true sense. And Whatever we are discussed here daily is all watched by Tess's loyalists.

Wow that's rich.

The further I play the new episode the more unhinged it gets ... not sure if I will finish it. To me a lot of times it feels not like femdom but some kind of extreme over the top findom (Which I already don't like) and some kind of fetish about social inequality. I mean I like femdom and power dynamics and everything, but also it feels like Kane gets offered a lot of sexual stuff but all other subs are just tortured and too often murdered for fun.

The whole game show feels like a sexualized version of running man, the long walk or battle royale.
It would be better if at least some characters were likeable. But everyone who seems to be not totally fucked in the dom path seems to be extremly fucked up if you played sub path too (Junko for example).

I think it would be easier to stomach if the themes wouldn't be so extreme all the time.

 

[minibaer12]

Why make the game so complicated? I thought The Game Show's plot would be like the Squid Game, but it's actually quite boring

As a Dom player, the current event is simply boring and pointless. The point system is absurd and illogical (variable: dgame). For Tess, this event only serves to further appease her supporters. Wasting almost four updates on it speaks volumes.

In my opinion, Tess is failing at the most crucial moment. This test version is a prime example. First, let's remove the scenes that are identical in both the sub-path and the Dom path. These scenes, which generally don't involve Kane, are, in my opinion, really good and the most interesting. Here, the story/backstory is told and the characters' scheming is showcased. However, if you move on to the remaining scenes, the actual paths, these are completely detached from the story and are... (I can't find the words to describe it). This makes one thing abundantly clear: The ratio of content/decisions from the Dom path to the Sub path is estimated to be at least 60% in favor of the Sub path.

I'm still waiting for the final version, but I don't expect any significant changes, especially in the Dom path!

 

[Rectory]

Never imagined a father would react like this, a father who loudly cheered his son’s name while Callista was pregnant.”

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Okay Mom and Dad, thankyou for being wonderful parents. Let's meet in Evil Dom path.

 

[crawhammer]

Does anyone have a download for the previous version, haven't got round to S2 yet and would like to play with WT mod

 

[Laxus007]

I feel like the story progression has come to a halt in s2. The pacing was good in s1.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Please tell me im seeing those scenes out of context and that the parents arent patting themselves on the back for not only putting Kane in such a dangerous situation but also not even preparing him for the situation.

 

[Masterofdisaste]

Please tell me im seeing those scenes out of context and that the parents arent patting themselves in the back for not only putting Kane in such a dangerous situation but also not even preparing him for the situation.

Nope that is actually exactly what happens.
But the father also asks the mother fuck a third time ... beacuse fuck their child. And their other child too - they just doing human experiments on him ... but thats ok, because it's the good Karlsson sister who is doing that ... she is definetly not evil at all. (Ok maybe Seth isn't really Coles or Callistas son - but he was raised by Callista)

 

[RNasc4444]

It would be better if at least some characters were likeable

There are no likeable characters in this game. It is completely devoid of them, imo.

There are a few I don't absolutely hate like Jake, Zach, Amy, Seth, Kwame and Amara. Everyone else I'd gladly drench in gasoline and set 'em ablaze.

In a post apocalyptic landscape, if society has devolved into this, it's time for society to end. At this point I'm just mad the apocalypse didn't finish the job This version of humanity needs to be wiped out.

 

[BurgRoyce]

As a Dom player, the current event is simply boring and pointless. The point system is absurd and illogical (variable: dgame). For Tess, this event only serves to further appease her supporters. Wasting almost four updates on it speaks volumes.

In my opinion, Tess is failing at the most crucial moment. This test version is a prime example. First, let's remove the scenes that are identical in both the sub-path and the Dom path. These scenes, which generally don't involve Kane, are, in my opinion, really good and the most interesting. Here, the story/backstory is told and the characters' scheming is showcased. However, if you move on to the remaining scenes, the actual paths, these are completely detached from the story and are... (I can't find the words to describe it). This makes one thing abundantly clear: The ratio of content/decisions from the Dom path to the Sub path is estimated to be at least 60% in favor of the Sub path.

I'm still waiting for the final version, but I don't expect any significant changes, especially in the Dom path!

Yeah, game is turning boring. Sadly. All this endless "games arc" is detracting story progression. It seems just an excuse to indulge into her sadistic fantasies
Let's hope 8.3.2 or whatever she calls it ends this games plot. Not sure about that...
Even if it ends there, I'm not optimistic about future of the game. Too much crucial things seem to be "set in stone" regardless of your choices.
For example, Veronica, the great genius and so on. She's so important for the world salvation, so I can't kill her, fine.
But for sure she doesn't need functional legs. Or a tongue. She could keep doing her genius things under your command, as a "special worker" aka slave, as a punishment for being a collaborator all her life on this dystopic nightmare.
Instead of that she gets a "get out of jail free card", thanks to Tess Just to name a topic where Kane can't decide shit. There are many more.

 

[harsha_26]

Yeah, game is turning boring. Sadly. All this endless "games arc" is detracting story progression. It seems just an excuse to indulge into her sadistic fantasies
Let's hope 8.3.2 or whatever she calls it ends this games plot. Not sure about that...
Even if it ends there, I'm not optimistic about future of the game. Too much crucial things seem to be "set in stone" regardless of your choices.
For example, Veronica, the great genius and so on. She's so important for the world salvation, so I can't kill her, fine.
But for sure she doesn't need functional legs. Or a tongue. She could keep doing her genius things under your command, as a "special worker" aka slave, as a punishment for being a collaborator all her life on this dystopic nightmare.
Instead of that she gets a "get out of jail free card", thanks to Tess Just to name a topic where Kane can't decide shit. There are many more.

Bro, Veronica being a slave under kane command is also downsided by Tess. I have asked this question too to her.

Wow, I actually feel relaxed now im not the only one to have these thoughts and it's been logical to expect these things atleast in evil dom or evil revolution path.

 

[Masterofdisaste]

Yeah, game is turning boring. Sadly. All this endless "games arc" is detracting story progression. It seems just an excuse to indulge into her sadistic fantasies
Let's hope 8.3.2 or whatever she calls it ends this games plot. Not sure about that...
Even if it ends there, I'm not optimistic about future of the game. Too much crucial things seem to be "set in stone" regardless of your choices.
For example, Veronica, the great genius and so on. She's so important for the world salvation, so I can't kill her, fine.
But for sure she doesn't need functional legs. Or a tongue. She could keep doing her genius things under your command, as a "special worker" aka slave, as a punishment for being a collaborator all her life on this dystopic nightmare.
Instead of that she gets a "get out of jail free card", thanks to Tess Just to name a topic where Kane can't decide shit. There are many more.

Veronica is not even just a collaborator of the system. It is said that she was heavly involved in creating the shock chips etc. She's basically the arichtect of it. I can't understand how we should be able to see her as a morally gray character while she is heavily responsible for the situation.
For example in sub path if Kane saves Maria, she is sooo thankful to Kane. Soo thankful that she continues with her human experiments about enhanced pain on Kane. You can decide for her how she wants to test Kane. By just hitting him while his pain is increased, or having beaten with a paddle or r*ping his ass with a strapon. Thats not morally gray, thats not thankful. That's just fucked up.

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[BurgRoyce]

Bro, Veronica being a slave under kane command is also downsided by Tess. I have asked this question too to her.

Wow, I actually feel relaxed now im not the only one to have these thoughts and it's been logical to expect these things atleast in evil dom or evil revolution path.

I'm in Good Revolution path, but my ideal scenario would be executing Juliette, Dominique and Alessandra (after being heavily humilliated, vexed and tortured), and Veronica as a slave (in the conditions stated in my previous post). Because Good is not soft and they deserve to suffer

Not gonna happen, I'm aware of that. If any of the Karlssons dies it would be as a result of their internal strife, not by Kane's choices.

 

[minibaer12]

Wow, I actually feel relaxed now im not the only one to have these thoughts and it's been logical to expect these things atleast in evil dom or evil revolution path.

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[Ricthequick]

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I mean not to sound like an apologist at all costs, but is not like this AVN was ever anything else but extra sadistic, I can understand folks not liking it, but is not something popping up in the last couple of updates, it's there from the very first chapter. (EDIT: if anything i think she had to dial it down a notch).

I can also understand how someone who only wants to play the Dom Kane paths might find it even more distateful, considering that is not like Kane has that much agency even in those paths, but also there it was made clear pretty soon that playing him as dominant wouldn't mean he's at the (power) level of the Karlsson.

I do agree on the show, that's taking forever and by now has lost most of its appeal also for me, I'd rather see the story progress further for Kane (both dom and sub).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

There are no likeable characters in this game. It is completely devoid of them, imo.

There are a few I don't absolutely hate like Jake, Zach, Amy, Seth, Kwame and Amara. Everyone else I'd gladly drench in gasoline and set 'em ablaze.

In a post apocalyptic landscape, if society has devolved into this, it's time for society to end. At this point I'm just mad the apocalypse didn't finish the job This version of humanity needs to be wiped out.

Other than the protagonists and the victims of the gambit, there are a few that don't bug me:

Claudia is interesting in that she's surrounded by evil but unless corrupted, she's not particularly evil.
Astrid picked a disease over giving into her fathers bullshit and the only slaves she uses are assistants to help her cure herself.
Nadia's determination to save her brother is quite noble. She might have the evil bug in her but she won't use it on Kane. I even love that she went through so much just to see her brother.
I might have a different opinion of her if I was a sub but I like how Yvette doesnt play about her daughters.
I would probably like Cynthia, but that raw steak creeps me out.

But for the most part yea, in a world like this where people get off on suffering, it's gonna be hard to find likeable characters.

Yeah, game is turning boring. Sadly. All this endless "games arc" is detracting story progression. It seems just an excuse to indulge into her sadistic fantasies
Let's hope 8.3.2 or whatever she calls it ends this games plot. Not sure about that...
Even if it ends there, I'm not optimistic about future of the game. Too much crucial things seem to be "set in stone" regardless of your choices.
For example, Veronica, the great genius and so on. She's so important for the world salvation, so I can't kill her, fine.
But for sure she doesn't need functional legs. Or a tongue. She could keep doing her genius things under your command, as a "special worker" aka slave, as a punishment for being a collaborator all her life on this dystopic nightmare.
Instead of that she gets a "get out of jail free card", thanks to Tess Just to name a topic where Kane can't decide shit. There are many more.

Still have one more part till we're done with this chapter. Basically we're doing approx 1/6 of chapters at the moment so it's gonna get old when it takes three years to finish said game show. The real problem is that as a dom player the game show isnt appealing at all since you're not really responsible for building it and you're not taking part in it, all that you're doing is betting on it unless something changed this update.

 

[Masterofdisaste]

I mean not to sound like an apologist at all costs, but is not like this AVN was ever anything else but extra sadistic, I can understand folks not liking it, but is not something popping up in the last couple of updates, it's there from the very first chapter. (EDIT: if anything i think she had to dial it down a notch).

I can also understand how someone who only wants to play the Dom Kane paths might find it even more distateful, considering that is not like Kane has that much agency even in those paths, but also there it was made clear pretty soon that playing him as dominant wouldn't mean he's at the (power) level of the Karlsson.

I do agree on the show, that's taking forever and by now has lost most of its appeal also for me, I'd rather see the story progress further for Kane (both dom and sub).

Yeah maybe you are right and I should have just dropped it much earlier. I just played the previous version a few weeks before and then saw he new update and thought, hey mabe something intresting will happen and maybe we get some positive developments especially with Kanes parents arriving. But no it just goes further with everything being as inhumane as possible.

 

[Ricthequick]

Yeah maybe you are right and I should have just dropped it much earlier. I just played the previous version a few weeks before and then saw he new update and thought, hey mabe something intresting will happen and maybe we get some positive developments especially with Kanes parents arriving. But no it just goes further with everything being as inhumane as possible.

Well look at the bright side, at least you didn't wait years.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Never imagined a father would react like this, a father who loudly cheered his son’s name while Callista was pregnant.”

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Okay Mom and Dad, thankyou for being wonderful parents. Let's meet in Evil Dom path.

No offence :
It's not rocket science to get a good start in this game ... everybody can get a K6 start and the whole process is transparent and explained in the walkthrough.

Content on the dom path is MALEDOM content in a femdom environment with lots of sex with willing females for Kane.

If a player starts as K4 and then maybe even goes down to K1pro, then this is usually an EXPLICIT choice of the player to see this kind of (sometimes extreme) FEMDOM content. A lot of choices on the sub path are just there to provide a variety of different scenes to cover special kinks like humilation, trampling, face sitting, pissing, whipping, killing slaves, etc ... recently there is also often the option to simply skip to the next scene if the player doesn't like the offered kinks of the content.

I have the impression that players misunderstand the game and the characters. I see the game mostly as a service where patrons can see their visualized femdom kinks and on the sub path can roleplay as a powerless slave.

It's a bit like in a fetish brothel where adult customers can choose their kinks, eg to be humilated and maybe whipped. Should the mistress in this brothel intervene and stop the whipping because whipping is an evil kink and may hurt the customer?

Cole and Calista can't intervene and free sub Kane since that would literally destroy the sub path for which the patrons pay. After all this is still a femdom game developed by a femdom lover for femdom loving patrons ...

If you don't like femdom scenes where sub Kane gets humilated or maybe even get killed, maybe better just stay on the dom path (and avoid Alessandra's special Secret Sub path).

 

[f96zonetrooper]

...
I'm the one in the corner rooting for the asteroid to do this VN world a favor and wipe it from existence because there is nothing or anyone on there worth saving

You realize that it's Tess' game and she adds content and features ... if you want to choose an asteroid ingame to wipe out everything, you have to go to Tess and ask her to implement it ...

If you don't enjoy the game, maybe consider to move on and maybe develop your own game ... after all it's your (finite) life, so don't waste it on games you don't like ...

 

[harsha_26]

No offence :
It's not rocket science to get a good start in this game ... everybody can get a K6 start and the whole process is transparent and explained in the walkthrough.

Content on the dom path is MALEDOM content in a femdom environment with lots of sex with willing females for Kane.

If a player starts as K4 and then maybe even goes down to K1pro, then this is usually an EXPLICIT choice of the player to see this kind of (sometimes extreme) FEMDOM content. A lot of choices on the sub path are just there to provide a variety of different scenes to cover special kinks like humilation, trampling, face sitting, pissing, whipping, killing slaves, etc ... recently there is also often the option to simply skip to the next scene if the player doesn't like the offered kinks of the content.

I have the impression that players misunderstand the game and the characters. I see the game mostly as a service where patrons can see their visualized femdom kinks and on the sub path can roleplay as a powerless slave.

It's a bit like in a fetish brothel where adult customers can choose their kinks, eg to be humilated and maybe whipped. Should the mistress in this brothel intervene and stop the whipping because whipping is an evil kink and may hurt the customer?

Cole and Calista can't intervene and free sub Kane since that would literally destroy the sub path for which the patrons pay. After all this is still a femdom game developed by a femdom lover for femdom loving patrons ...

If you don't like femdom scenes where sub Kane gets humilated or maybe even get killed, maybe better just stay on the dom path (and avoid Alessandra's special Secret Sub path).

As far as i'm concerned, I have no problems about sub kinks. Sub have whatever kinks it can. I never opposed it. My problem is only with certain characters like Parents. Nadia showed what she can by helping his bro by hacking, she risked her ticket to just have a talk with her bro. What these cole and callista did while he is suffering? Fucking all over multiple times. I admit it's player's choice to go down the k1 path, and Yes, Kane should be blamed for it. But did he asked for this life? All he did is responding to a thief attacking his brother. And why he trapped in the first place? Only because he is callista's son. That's his biggest sin.

And I can understand parents have limitations to save him. But still, he is their son. Atleast all they can do is feel bad about it and think of next process to save kane. But Cole is more interested in being the leader of new world than saving his son, and even callista is responding well to the fucking jokes of cynthia. They should have atleast reacted in a emotional way rather than fucking all around.