VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[f96zonetrooper]

Yeah, I don't see anything interesting about Junko and feel like I'm whoring myself out to her on my alt good dom/powergaming playthrough just to ensure I get the revolution.

Meanwhile on my original blind good playthrough where I started out K4 and climbed to K7 (the suffering and eventual role reversal was a lot more entertaining than the basic fetish wish fulfillment of the straightforward sub/dom paths for masochists/sadists) and should've been a prime candidate for revenge/revolution they don't make contact. You get a separate cutscene between a couple of revolutionnaries saying they're not sure whether you can be trusted.

If it then turns out you don't actually need to become Junko's lover to get or join the revolution then it will just be my fault for cheating with a guide.

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[f96zonetrooper]

I have no problems about sub kinks. Sub have whatever kinks it can. I never opposed it. My problem is only with certain characters like Parents, sister etc. Nadia showed what she can by helping his bro by hacking, she risked her ticket to just have a talk with her bro. What these cole and callista did while he is suffering? Fucking all over multiple times. I admit it's player's choice to go down the k1 path, and Yes, Kane should be blamed for it. But did he asked for this life? All he did is responding to a thief attacking his brother. And why he trapped in the first place? Only because he is callista's son. That's his biggest sin.

And I can understand parents have limitations to save him. But still, he is their son. Atleast all they can do is feel bad about it and think of next process to save kane. But Cole is more interested in being the leader of new world than saving his son, and even callista is responding well to the fucking jokes of cynthia. They should have atleast reacted in a emotional way rather than fucking all around.

Everything that happens to Kane and what Kane does is a test to see if he is worthy ... Maybe they will intervene after the test and save him if he did poorly?
And they (the Karlsson sisters) still need Kane's seed for the Gambit.

I have the impression that on the sub path Kane doing good now is just interpreted as Kane being a "good slave". Dom players who accidently started as K4 had their chance in E5 to to rise from K4 to K5. Players who did not take that chance likely chose sub content over dom content by purpose, so no need for Tess to adjust the story for a few players who are "on the wrong path". The narrative may not work for completionist dom players who explore the sub path, but they are on the "wrong" path anyway ...

 

[Masterofdisaste]

No offence :
It's not rocket science to get a good start in this game ... everybody can get a K6 start and the whole process is transparent and explained in the walkthrough.

Content on the dom path is MALEDOM content in a femdom environment with lots of sex with willing females for Kane.

If a player starts as K4 and then maybe even goes down to K1pro, then this is usually an EXPLICIT choice of the player to see this kind of (sometimes extreme) FEMDOM content. A lot of choices on the sub path are just there to provide a variety of different scenes to cover special kinks like humilation, trampling, face sitting, pissing, whipping, killing slaves, etc ... recently there is also often the option to simply skip to the next scene if the player doesn't like the offered kinks of the content.

I have the impression that players misunderstand the game and the characters. I see the game mostly as a service where patrons can see their visualized femdom kinks and on the sub path can roleplay as a powerless slave.

It's a bit like in a fetish brothel where adult customers can choose their kinks, eg to be humilated and maybe whipped. Should the mistress in this brothel intervene and stop the whipping because whipping is an evil kink and may hurt the customer?

Cole and Calista can't intervene and free sub Kane since that would literally destroy the sub path for which the patrons pay. After all this is still a femdom game developed by a femdom lover for femdom loving patrons ...

If you don't like femdom scenes where sub Kane gets humilated or maybe even get killed, maybe better just stay on the dom path (and avoid Alessandra's special Secret Sub path).

Hey, I have no problem with the femdom content at all. I'm in for this. The scenes were the women dominate Kane acutally are very often really good. And yes you can avoid seeing people killed on screen, what you can't avoid is how they constantly tell you how fucked up they all are and how much they enjoy killing people for fun. For me at least there is a heavy difference between femdom/bdsm play and getting off on letting people die of starvation or killing thousands of innocent people (but ok I get it, thats preferences).
But I still see a lot of problems with writing of the characters. You say Cole and Callista can't save Kane because it destroys the sub path ... yeah sure but then don't tell us they are two of the most brillaint people on earth that care deeply for their child, while doing absolutly nothing to help him but instead decide to having a fun fucking session. If you want to make that belivable then show us why they can't do shit or we have to asume they are simply shitty people or it's bad writing. Or maybe just don't bring them to the island at all...
Veronica tells you that you completly changed her life but also says that she will not risk anything to actually protect you or maybe give you something to eat or to drink to increase your stats. Same goes for Maria btw.
All of the not completly psycho characters just feel so inconsitent...

 

[harsha_26]

Everything that happens to Kane and what Kane does is a test to see if he is worthy ... Maybe they will intervene after the test and save him if he did poorly?
And they (the Karlsson sisters) still need Kane's seed for the Gambit.

I have the impression that on the sub path Kane doing good now is just interpreted as Kane being a "good slave". Dom players who accidently started as K4 had their chance in E5 to to rise from K4 to K5. Players who did not take that chance likely chose sub content over dom content by purpose, so no need for Tess to adjust the story for a few players who are "on the wrong path". The narrative may not work for completionist dom players who explore the sub path, but they are on the "wrong" path anyway ...

So, you mean to say ultimately, sub paths are more about extreme sadistic kinks and dom paths are about easy sex with willing girls.

The Great Karlsson Gambit of Tess is finally reduced to extreme kinks in sub path and regular sex in dom path.

And here I'm, thinking all this game is beyond that and praising Tess in the meanwhile even though I have issues in this game lol.

 

[harsha_26]

Hey, I have no problem with the femdom content at all. I'm in for this. The scenes were the women dominate Kane acutally are very often really good. And yes you can avoid seeing people killed on screen, what you can't avoid is how they constantly tell you how fucked up they all are and how much they enjoy killing people for fun. For me at least there is a heavy difference between femdom/bdsm play and getting off on letting people die of starvation or killing thousands of innocent people (but ok I get it, thats preferences).
But I still see a lot of problems with writing of the characters. You say Cole and Callista can't save Kane because it destroys the sub path ... yeah sure but then don't tell us they are two of the most brillaint people on earth that care deeply for their child, while doing absolutly nothing to help him but instead decide to having a fun fucking session. If you want to make that belivable then show us why they can't do shit or we have to asume they are simply shitty people or it's bad writing. Or maybe just don't bring them to the island at all...
Veronica tells you that you completly changed her life but also says that she will not risk anything to actually protect you or maybe give you something to eat or to drink to increase your stats. Same goes for Maria btw.
All of the not completly psycho characters just feel so inconsitent...

It have writing issues even in Dom Path. In the parents scene in dom path, Cole says "you prepared him well" to callista.
Like really? When that happened? All she said is "I'm gonna save you".

 

[harsha_26]

what do you think about bflagsubone or bflagdomone? f96zonetrooper

 

[RNasc4444]

You realize that it's Tess' game and she adds content and features ... if you want to choose an asteroid ingame to wipe out everything, you have to go to Tess and ask her to implement it ...

If you don't enjoy the game, maybe consider to move on and maybe develop your own game ... after all it's your (finite) life, so don't waste it on games you don't like ...

Indeed.

I'm sure you missed my earlier post but anyways I just wanted you to know that's exactly what I'm doing.

As someone who's been "stuck" at the end of chapter 6 for like 2 years because the kinks and the nature of this VN is so hard to digest it almost makes me sick, all I want or care about is the complete obliteration of The Karlsson Group and anyone that's a part of it. At least everyone ranked K5 and above. I'd like to decimate The Cocks too eventually but the Karlsson's come first.

I'm still technically at the end of chapter 6/beggining of chapter 7 but I peruse the new versions that come out and read this thread from time to time.

So while I do genuinely appreciate the (passive agressive) advice, I do value my time and only allocate as much as I can spare to shit I don't like

 

[hoochimama]

In the parents scene in dom path, Cole says "you prepared him well" to callista.
Like really? When that happened?

All the extra homework prepared him to be an expert bootlicker.

 

[harsha_26]

In the scene with kiyomi and sonya, kiyomi said something about someone have a message for kane. It happens in both dom and sub paths. Who might be that someone?

Lets meet at probably same time in next year..