VN Ren'Py Leaving DNA [Ep. 4.3a] [Impious Monk]

[DrakoGhoul]

Nice take.

BTW, the tag you mentioned only got added AFTER epi 4 (and it's cliffhanger) dropped. Thus, the cliffhanger was a real shock for those that played epi 4 as an update.

I could see that. When I downloaded this like two days ago, the tag was already there. So while playing I was expecting an incest twist somewhere. Even when MC met his "sister" I still was waiting for it to show. I admittedly thought it was going to be Jamie. Mostly because of how it was set up about how her family chose to help him and such.

Then, I was surprised when it didn't happened and figured I was not on that path. Up until the ending came around.

 

[Krytax123]

Reasonable takes. I'm in the same boat. After playing all the routes, Aghavni is the only one I can see him with long term.

Yeah Aghavni started out as my least favorite of the bunch (and jamie still is my fav li) but so far Aghavni really seems to be the most fitting LI and the only one without dozens ostacles towards a relationship and shes my number 2 at this point.

Even his "flaws" relationship wise like being a workaholic works well together with her as shes easily positively affected by his drive as was shown when he just appeared at her apparment in the middle of the night to brainstorm stuff about the case lol

And she already knows/is used about his intimacy troubles and will appreciate his little baby steps towards getting better way more than most gals.

He could stay a workahollic and it could work, he could even become senator, shes encouraging about that too but probably wouldnt mind him stepping back if he wants that.

It seems so far like the most mature and healthy relationship

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

The introduction of that new tag was just pandering to that crowd and very off putting, as well as plain old bad writing. No need for that "plot twist" besides fan service. Don't care that gives an alternate motive, that could have been done any number of ways. Really disappointing.

 

[John972]

I could see that. When I downloaded this like two days ago, the tag was already there. So while playing I was expecting an incest twist somewhere. Even when MC met his "sister" I still was waiting for it to show. I admittedly thought it was going to be Jamie. Mostly because of how it was set up about how her family chose to help him and such.

Then, I was surprised when it didn't happened and figured I was not on that path. Up until the ending came around.

Oh, Jamie being Rockford's biological half-sister would've been a hoot! Especially considering she's been so frustrated because Rockford treats her like a kid sister.

 

[John972]

The introduction of that new tag was just pandering to that crowd and very off putting, as well as plain old bad writing. No need for that "plot twist" besides fan service. Don't care that gives an alternate motive, that could have been done any number of ways. Really disappointing.

Why do you think it's "fan service" and "pandering" to "that" crowd? The impression I get is that Impious Monk has had this eight-episode story mapped out since the beginning; he didn't just decide on a whim to throw it in there.

As the developer notes on page 1 have stated from the beginning:

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[yossa999]

Why do you think it's "fan service" and "pandering" to "that" crowd?

Because that's exactly what I would think too if I treated the game like another comic book to jerk off to.
If you are not interested in the game's plot or the discussion surrounding it - well then yes, incest is just a fetish added to attract fans of this fetish.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Oh, Jamie being Rockford's biological half-sister would've been a hoot! Especially considering she's been so frustrated because Rockford treats her like a kid sister.

Which is funny because I was already leaning into just staying friends with her anyway throughout the playthrough. So if she was half sister, it would've worked out perfectly.

As for the incest discussion. I didn't play the game for that. Just like everyone else, the story was what interest me. I had this game bookmarked for a while and since the incest is rather new to the game, it shows that I was interested without it even being part of it. Not to mention, my favorite love interest isn't even the half sister. It's Aghavni, who I feel makes the most sense for my MC. And with all of the opinions that were recently posted, it might well be my main.

 

[John972]

Which is funny because I was already leaning into just staying friends with her anyway throughout the playthrough. So if she was half sister, it would've worked out perfectly.

As for the incest discussion. I didn't play the game for that. Just like everyone else, the story was what interest me. I had this game bookmarked for a while and since the incest is rather new to the game, it shows that I was interested without it even being part of it. Not to mention, my favorite love interest isn't even the half sister. It's Aghavni, who I feel makes the most sense for my MC. And with all of the opinions that were recently posted, it might well be my main.

Yeah, I think Aghavni has been the safe bet so far, 'cause Impious Monk has found ways to put barriers between Rockford and the other LIs up to the end of epi 4 (Jamie: career over unrequited love / Emmeline: we all know what : ) / Malena: her dark past & her current profession - I think there might be some nasty revelations coming up there)

 

[Impious Monk]

The introduction of that new tag was just pandering to that crowd and very off putting, as well as plain old bad writing. No need for that "plot twist" besides fan service. Don't care that gives an alternate motive, that could have been done any number of ways. Really disappointing.

Anyone is welcome to criticize my story as being badly written, but I am bothered by comments that suggest I was trying to appeal to a particular fetish. I don't think anything about the story up until this point suggests that, and in fact suggests the opposite.

Unfortunately, the ending of Episode Four has not been understood in the way I intended it to be. It's intended to be a dark story beat, an emotional gut punch for the MC and the player. I wrote six pages on this for my supporters but I'll give a brief TLDR:

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[yossa999]

For those on Emmeline's path, there is an added layer of storytelling here. Many have had their favorite LI taken away from them. For these players, Episode Four has a very dark ending

Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

 

[Impious Monk]

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Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

 

[Chillout1984]

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Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

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[Just Jericho]

I like this render because it's fun to try to think of what her face is conveying after hearing the news :



For example do you think that it's a "AW HELL NO!" face?

... or maybe it's a "WTF, Bro?!?" face...

... or maybe it could be a "What?... you didn't already guess that?" face.

So many possibilities!

 

[Chillout1984]

I like this render because it's fun to try to think of what her face is conveying after hearing the news :

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For example do you think that it's a "AW HELL NO!" face?

... or maybe it's a "WTF, Bro?!?" face...

... or maybe it could be a "What?... you didn't already guess that?" face.

So many possibilities!

- "I always wanted to try it but not unknowingly" face
- "I'm so going to blackmail you with this" face

 

[Maccabbee]

Anyone is welcome to criticize my story as being badly written, but I am bothered by comments that suggest I was trying to appeal to a particular fetish. I don't think anything about the story up until this point suggests that, and in fact suggests the opposite.

Unfortunately, the ending of Episode Four has not been understood in the way I intended it to be. It's intended to be a dark story beat, an emotional gut punch for the MC and the player. I wrote six pages on this for my supporters but I'll give a brief TLDR:

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Thank you very much for this, and I completely got what you were going for, and appreciated it at the time. Not everyone is in the vocal few that misunderstand, or want you to write the story that they want to hear. I am very much loving the story that you are telling, gut punches and all. Keep up the good work, please?

 

[moskyx]

Spanish translation updated / Traducción al español actualizada - Ep 4.3a

*** UPDATED POST 2025-FEB-21***

Traducción al español - 100% manual - Episode Four -3a

Como siempre, hay que descargar e instalar el juego original y luego descargar y extraer la carpeta "game" del parche y pegarla dentro de la carpeta donde hayáis instalado el juego. No se reemplazará ningún archivo y el juego arrancará ya en español. Se puede cambiar de idioma en el menú de Opciones.

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Spanish translation - 100% manually translated - Episode Four -3a

As always, you have to download and install the original game, then download and extract the "game" folder from the patch and copypaste it into the same folder you've installed the game. No files will be replaced. The game will start in Spanish, but a switch language option will appear in the Options menu.

 

[OleJackRipper]

hot but doesnt seem like I can have my cake and eat it to with no harem.

 

[John972]

Anyone is welcome to criticize my story as being badly written, but I am bothered by comments that suggest I was trying to appeal to a particular fetish. I don't think anything about the story up until this point suggests that, and in fact suggests the opposite.

Unfortunately, the ending of Episode Four has not been understood in the way I intended it to be. It's intended to be a dark story beat, an emotional gut punch for the MC and the player. I wrote six pages on this for my supporters but I'll give a brief TLDR:

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I am truly sorry that you have been put in the position of defending (for a lack of a better phrase) "the bleeding obvious".

I know this sounds like hearing something from one of the "converted," but you achieved everything you set out to do. That's not me talking as an uncritical fanboi, it's after really getting into the meat of the story and the dialogues to seek a better understanding of everything presented so far.

One of the most significant and refreshing aspects of LeavingDNA is that you do confront the harsh realities of murder, rape, incest et al, and the emotional damage they can do, and you do it in an exceptionally sympathetic way. This has been obvious from the first episode. These elements are presented in the least fetishized manner possible. If anyone started to "enjoy" (for lack of a better euphemism) the testimony during Jamie's trial, I would like to think they felt a little shame by the end of it.

I expect most players came away horrified by the episode 4 cliffhanger, not turned on by it. I guess you'll know for sure by the feedback you've gotten. That being the case, then surely it's "mission accomplished." You elicited the expected emotional response from your audience and took them completely by surprise.

But... as the saying goes: You can please some of the people some of the time. but you can't please all of the people all of the time.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

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Ohhh dang.....

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[jadepaladin]

Ohhh dang.....

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Who's out of the country?