Mayonesa

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What does the girls in the past have to do with what he decided to do with Danna? You can love one women, and feel nothing for another.
The dev saying that for that path to happen, he doesn't care at all about women, he sees them as assest and only that, so he caring about women of his past negate the not caring for women thing, so it makes it not believable.
 

MrFriendly

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The thing is that the NTr doesn't match the character that has been shown so far, it is shown in the game not what I want to see but what it's shown.

Also I will say it again if he didn't care about the girls in the present and it's ok with using them as asset and things like that, why would he be remembering anything of this? or even be bothered by it? He doesn't care right?
We don't know anything about the NTR that will be in this game. Nor do we know that much about the MC. All we have seen is that he has been restless at night thinking about the people he did care about when he was 18. Caring about people in your past doesn't mean you care about the people in your present. That is an inaccurate and illogical jump in reasoning. As I said, people change, the MC changed. He doesn't have to be consistent with his 18 year old self just because YOU think that it doesn't make sense for people to change that much.

Obviously you are either too young or have been lucky enough that you haven't experienced much nostalgia in your life. That is exactly what the MC is feeling towards his past, "a wistful or excessively sentimental yearning for return to or of some past period or irrecoverable condition". Sitting in your bed at night thinking about what could have been is something that a lot of people do when they get older.



The dev saying that for that path to happen, he doesn't care at all about women, he sees them as assest and only that, so he caring about women of his past negate the not caring for women thing, so it makes it not believable.
People change, this MC changed. You will have to accept that fact if you are going to keep playing the character.

Being a cold hearted bastard now doesn't mean he can't have a sentimentality for then.
 

Mayonesa

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Who knows what his exact plan is, but what I have heard, that there will be choices as to how the MC interacts with the women from his past, and the the love, lust, NTR route is the player getting to choose what will become of Danna. I could wrong, it could change tomorrow, it's all up to the dev. If you don't like the NTR path just don't choose it.
It's not about choosing it or not, it's about if it fits the character or not, and it doesn't fit the character shown so far. He caring for the girls in his past that much to remember them even after all those years and him seeing women as only assest to use and even wanting to see them fucking others, doesn't match.
 

kantigura

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It's not about choosing it or not, it's about if it fits the character or not, and it doesn't fit the character shown so far. He caring for the girls in his past that much to remember them even after all those years and him seeing women as only assest to use and even wanting to see them fucking others, doesn't match.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. As someone in my mid 40's I can tell you how I treated people when I was 18 as compared to now is very different. The choice does matter if you don't choose NTR the MC in your game will not use her or share her. Just like the "good" and "corrupt" choices you make for the MC. It's your chance to shape how he will be
 

RenegadeShep

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Lol i don't get it why you guys keep trying to make people swallow this NTR weak MC bullshit, i mean probably could read a book here about why it isn't but what a felt playing is MC is not a cuck and Rachel cheated on him. I'm here just commenting so my bros who don't like it can in the future be aware and don't waste their time.
 

kantigura

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Lol i don't get it why you guys keep trying to make people swallow this NTR weak MC bullshit, i mean probably could read a book here about why it isn't but what a felt playing is MC is not a cuck and Rachel cheated on him. I'm here just commenting so my bros who don't like it can in the future be aware and don't waste their time.
You don't have to swallow anything, the game is tagged with NTR, if you don't like you and your bro's can find another game you like.
 

Mayonesa

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Obviously you are either too young or have been lucky enough that you haven't experienced much nostalgia in your life. That is exactly what the MC is feeling towards his past, "a wistful or excessively sentimental yearning for return to or of some past period or irrecoverable condition". Sitting in your bed at night thinking about what could have been is something that a lot of people do when they get older.

People change, this MC changed. You will have to accept that fact if you are going to keep playing the character.

Being a cold hearted bastard now doesn't mean he can't have a sentimentality for then.
This description of the MC in the NTR path is the one the dev said is perfect " There are plenty of rich, succesful, handsome dudes who see women as nothing more than playthings with no real emotional attachment. That type of man would have no problem using Dana to cut a deal or as "entertainment" for fellow mobsters. "

So that MC having nostalgia doesn't match, that same MC caring about people of his past doesn't match. So again the NTR path and what has been shown so far doesn't fit the MC at all. If he was shown as a hearthless bastard then I wouldn't say shit, but so far that's not the case.

About being too young or having been lucky, that's not the case. But I see this not as the MC being a real person, but as a character that is acting and shown in a way and will have a path that doesn't fit at all with what was shown, nothing more.
 
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kantigura

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This description of the MC in the NTR path is the one the dev said is perfect " There are plenty of rich, succesful, handsome dudes who see women as nothing more than playthings with no real emotional attachment. That type of man would have no problem using Dana to cut a deal or as "entertainment" for fellow mobsters. "

So that MC having nostalgia doesn't match, that same MC caring about people of his past doesn't match. So again the NTR path and what has been shown so far doesn't fit the MC at all. If he was shown as a hearthless bastard then I wouldn't say shit, but so far that's not the case.

About being too young or having been lucky, that's not the case. But I see this not as the MC being a real person, but as a character that is acting and shown in a way and will have a path that doesn't fit at all with what was shown, nothing more.
Not sure how much more simply I can put it, IF you do not like the NTR path then don't choose it. Some people will like it and choose to go down it. The dev put 3 paths as choices so players can choose what they like. Choose the one you like, and let others choose the one they want.
 

Mayonesa

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We'll just have to agree to disagree. As someone in my mid 40's I can tell you how I treated people when I was 18 as compared to now is very different. The choice does matter if you don't choose NTR the MC in your game will not use her or share her. Just like the "good" and "corrupt" choices you make for the MC. It's your chance to shape how he will be
Again it's not about the choice, it's about what have shown so far in the game about the MC not fitting the path where he sees women like playthings when he is literally remembering them.
 

RenegadeShep

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You don't have to swallow anything, the game is tagged with NTR, if you don't like you and your bro's can find another game you like.
Yeah that's what i'm gonna do but cause some people don't have the decency to decide about the game i'm here.
Played cause it's "avoidable NTR" and my girl cheated, so that the others don't have the same fate as me i commented.
 

MrFriendly

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This description of the MC in the NTR path is the one the dev said is perfect " There are plenty of rich, succesful, handsome dudes who see women as nothing more than playthings with no real emotional attachment. That type of man would have no problem using Dana to cut a deal or as "entertainment" for fellow mobsters. "

So that MC having nostalgia doesn't match, that same MC caring about people of his past doesn't match. So again the NTR path and what has been shown so far doesn't fit the MC at all. If he was shown as a hearthless bastard then I wouldn't say shit, but so far that's not the case.

About being too young or having been lucky, that's not the case. But I see this not as the MC being a real person, but as a character that is acting and shown in a way and will have a path that doesn't fit at all with what was shown, nothing more.
Simply put the MC will act as the dev chooses to have him act. If you don’t like it then don’t play the game. If you don’t like NTR then don’t play games tagged as NTR. Do not come into a thread for an NTR game and argue that the MC wouldn’t be okay with NTR and expect something to change. Just as I wouldn’t go into a Harem game and argue that the MC wouldn’t want a polyamorous relationship because of what I’ve seen of the MC “so far”. The developers of the games can do whatever they want with the characters they have written regardless of what we think.
 

kantigura

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Again it's not about the choice, it's about what have shown so far in the game about the MC not fitting the path where he sees women like playthings when he is literally remembering them.
Let me put it another way, bitching about NTR here isn't going to get the dev to take the path out. If you don't like it don't choose it. I am not going to waste any more time debating it. The dev already posted on here his thoughts on it. Once again, if you don't like it, don't want to see it, choose the love path and be happy.
 
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Mayonesa

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Not sure how much more simply I can put it, IF you do not like the NTR path then don't choose it. Some people will like it and choose to go down it. The dev put 3 paths as choices so players can choose what they like. Choose the one you like, and let others choose the one they want.
Not sure how much more simply I can put it, it is not about the choice, of course I would choose the path with no NTR, is about trying to put a kink that doesn't fit a character, NTR doesn't fit this MC at all, so dev spending time in trying to force a path with a kink that doesn't fit instead of developing the paths where it does fit the MC it's insane.
 

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He does care about the women in his past, and if you choose the love route he does care about Danna, if you choose the lust route he cares enough to bang her, if he chooses NTR he obviously doesn't care, but that is YOUR choice as the player. You have to make the decision.
I think that part of the issue that some people are haviing is that "doesn't care" should not have to result in NTR.
It will be interesting to see the possible interactions with other girls, but the problem with Danna is that if you do not want to risk having to watch her with another guy, you are forced to chose love or lust. Hopefully at some stage, if you decided you are not interested in her, you can have minimal interaction with her without have to know or see what she is doing.
 
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kantigura

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Not sure how much more simply I can put it, it is not about the choice, of course I would choose the path with no NTR, is about trying to put a kink that doesn't fit a character, NTR doesn't fit this MC at all, so dev spending time in trying to force a path with a kink that doesn't fit instead of developing the paths where it does fit the MC it's insane.
It's his game, if he want the MC to grow tits and wings and fly around naked, that is his choice, not ours. This is a pirate site for games, people get them for free. Enjoy what the dev puts out, and if you just can't stand it play a game you like.
 

kantigura

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I think that part of the issue that some people are haviing is that "doesn't care" should not have to result in NTR.
It will be interesting to see the possible interactions with other girls, but the problem with Danna is that if you do not want to risk having to watch her with another guy, you are forced to chose love or lust. Hopefully at some stage, if you decided you are not interested in her, you can have minimal interaction with her without have to know or see what she is doing.
I agree, and who knows maybe on the lust path you get to break up with her eventually, hard to say. Offering an idea or opinion like this will be taken more seriously then just trying to get a path removed.
 

Mayonesa

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Simply put the MC will act as the dev chooses to have him act. If you don’t like it then don’t play the game. If you don’t like NTR then don’t play games tagged as NTR. Do not come into a thread for an NTR game and argue that the MC wouldn’t be okay with NTR and expect something to change. Just as I wouldn’t go into a Harem game and argue that the MC wouldn’t want a polyamorous relationship because of what I’ve seen of the MC “so far”. The developers of the games can do whatever they want with the characters they have written regardless of what we think.
I can complaint when I see something that doesn't fit a character shown in the game. If I see a shy type of character, having an orgy in the next version I can express my complaint, or has this become an only good job dev post allowed?

If I see the way a character, the MC, is not fitting a future path, NTR, then I can express my complaint, I am even stating my points logically, not saying it doesn't match because I don't like NTR or things like that.

Characters in games, novels and all kind of stories should be consistent, coherent and believable, and in porn games there are some kinks that works in some characters and others that don't, in this case NTR doesn't fit the MC. ANd I say so far, because it's the only think we know about the MC, and instead of saying I think he should do this or that, I base my reply in what has been shown in the game, because as a player that's what I got, nothing more nothing less.

Also harem and polyamorous are different kinks. In harem the girls or boys are in love with one person, the MC, while in poly they love the MC and each other, it isn't the same.

So I just complaint because I see that path as a plothole that doesn't match with was has been shown of the character so far, same as dev saying that Rachel didn't cheat but seeing that cg makes you think otherwise.
 
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Simply put the MC will act as the dev chooses to have him act. If you don’t like it then don’t play the game. If you don’t like NTR then don’t play games tagged as NTR. Do not come into a thread for an NTR game and argue that the MC wouldn’t be okay with NTR and expect something to change. Just as I wouldn’t go into a Harem game and argue that the MC wouldn’t want a polyamorous relationship because of what I’ve seen of the MC “so far”. The developers of the games can do whatever they want with the characters they have written regardless of what we think.
I can complaint when I see something that doesn't fit a character shown in the game. If I see a shy type of character, having an orgy in the next version I can express my complaint, or has this become an only good job dev post allowed?
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So I just complaint because I see that path as a plothole that doesn't match with was has been shown of the character so far, same as dev saying that Rachel didn't cheat but seeing that cg makes you think otherwise.
+1, this is a forum, that means that this is a place where people can discuss about the game. Nothing says that have to be about the good things of the game, so if we find plotholes there is nothing wrong to talk about it
 

kantigura

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I can complaint when I see something that doesn't fit a character shown in the game. If I see a shy type of character, having an orgy in the next version I can express my complaint, or has this become an only good job dev post allowed?

If I see the way a character, the MC, is not fitting a future path, NTR, then I can express my complaint, I am even stating my points logically, not saying it doesn't match because I don't like NTR or things like that.

Characters in games, novels and all kind of stories should be consistent, coherent and believable, and in porn games there are some kinks that works in some characters and others that don't, in this case NTR doesn't fit the MC. ANd I say so far, because it's the only think we know about the MC, and instead of saying I think he should do this or that, I base my reply in what has been shown in the game, because as a player that's what I got, nothing more nothing less.

Also harem and polyamorous are different kinks. In harem the girls or boys are in love with one person, the MC, while in poly they love the MC and each other, it isn't the same.

So I just complaint because I see that path as a plothole that doesn't match with was has been shown of the character so far, same as dev saying that Rachel didn't cheat but seeing that cg makes you think otherwise.
You can complain all you want, it's a free country. All I am saying is the dev already put his thoughts about it on here, but non-stop complaining about it isn't going to change anything. If you like the game play it, if not don't. No reason to keep beating a dead horse on it. No matter what either of us say on here, it will keep going as is. Feel free to complain all night long if you like, I am tired of this debate, it is going nowhere.
 
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