Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

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Belle

Belle

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Darkaura said:
Then hide the map icon when not at a location where it is functionally available. Duh.
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No, that's a big GUI faux pas, at least in a game with this kind of minimalist GUI. I learned very early on, as a software developer, that it's usually better to disable than to hide GUI elements because it makes the interface easier to navigate and get used to.

The big problem right now is that the icon is too subtle and unrecognizable. It will look like an actual map at some point, which will help a great deal. Not only will people more instinctively understand what it is, but its size and colors will mean it becomes much easier to see when it changes between enabled and disabled status.
 
Darkaura

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Belle said:
better to disable than to hide GUI elements
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Hmm. You don't suck as a dev, so I will defer to your expertise in this one instance, but as a matter of principle, I disagree showing non-clickable icons, unless there is a damn good reason.

At the very least put in a hover tag that says "You are not at a travel accessible location"

Vren took 90% of my "suggestions" to heart, in like 5 minutes with a patch. But based on his comments and looking at his code, he codes for a living, outside of Patreon. Just sayin' that when someone bitches, evaluate it as a valid concern, or not.
 
voldybuff

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Belle said:
The final version will have a (generous) time limit, but you don't have to worry about that right now. I will invalidate old saves before we reach that point anyway, so your current game will never risk accidentally going past the limit.
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Invalidate? Does that mean we will have to start the whole game over after a point? That time may be far off but that also means a million more decisions we'll have to do over right?
 
Belle

Belle

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voldybuff said:
Invalidate? Does that mean we will have to start the whole game over after a point? That time may be far off but that also means a million more decisions we'll have to do over right?
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Yeah, it does mean that, but I won't do it until it becomes absolutely necessary. I've avoided it so far by making the game events flexible. At some point I'm going to start tweaking existing stuff, fixing things that happened in the early parts of the game, adding tracking to actions you've done that I previously didn't track, and so on. Up until now (and for some time to come, hopefully) I've been able to guess at these things through the save patch system I wrote, but that doesn't mean I will be able to continue doing that indefinitely.

Pro tip: Once (and if) I do invalidate your saves, you can easily skip dialogue you've seen before by holding down the Ctrl key. Unless you've changed the behavior in the options, dialogue will stop whenever the game encounters something you haven't seen or read before, or which I've changed since the last time you saw it.
 
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Belle said:
Yeah, it does mean that, but I won't do it until it becomes absolutely necessary. I've avoided it so far by making the game events flexible. At some point I'm going to start tweaking existing stuff, fixing things that happened in the early parts of the game, adding tracking to actions you've done that I previously didn't track, and so on. Up until now (and for some time to come, hopefully) I've been able to guess at these things through the save patch system I wrote, but that doesn't mean I will be able to continue doing that indefinitely.

Pro tip: Once (and if) I do invalidate your saves, you can easily skip dialogue you've seen before by holding down the Ctrl key. Unless you've changed the behavior in the options, dialogue will stop whenever the game encounters something you haven't seen or read before, or which I've changed since the last time you saw it.
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A worthy trade-off it'll be. I look forward to what you have in store
 
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Clansman

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What do you need with Samara for the Killer Secret? As had Belle say have everything need to save Primrose. But when try to present the clues to Samara get told that she had high hopes for me.
I must be missing something?
 
Ghos[t]

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well, if i remember correctly, done it few days ago, it goes kinda like that :
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not sure if it completely right, as i said done it few days ago.
 
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Clansman

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Cannot get Samara's Large Secret each time I try get told she had high hopes for me.
Got the three clues regarding the scales. Have I missed something?
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SlamJammin

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Belle said:
Explained by the story if you read what she actually says (and writes) to you.



Belle tells you almost outright what you need to do when you find them. That's about as big of a clue as you can get.



There's a tutorial that walks you through using the map to visit the Crone in the tutorial. You missed the tutorial for this because the map system was added after you started your first save.

Having said that, the current map system isn't intuitive enough. I have a couple of ideas on how to improve it.
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*spoilers*My issue with the sister even with the note she gives is that she does a 180 so quickly, no real build up or work put on the player to break down her defenses to what she also truly wants. Also she says she will be gone for months or years, yet in this new update she is there telling you about primrose might get arrested? Did I miss something there? I must have missed the part where Belle said what to do next but that's why I bring up triple A titles and hand holding is that when someone does miss a clue that goes by quickly it might not be enough for the player to catch it. Maybe a big red arrow at the UI interface with the caption "The wanker SlamJammin suggests you use the map button at some time at a certain location *hint hint*" lol. Anyways, I really enjoy your game and am psyched to see where the story goes!
 
Belle

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SlamJammin said:
My issue with the sister even with the note she gives is that she does a 180 so quickly, no real build up or work put on the player to break down her defenses to what she also truly wants.
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You'll be able to seduce her at some point in the future. Triggering her sex scene will take more effort when we get there, but since there's no way to improve your relationship with her right now, the progression has been accelerated temporarily.

SlamJammin said:
Also she says she will be gone for months or years, yet in this new update she is there telling you about primrose might get arrested? Did I miss something there?
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Yeah, you missed me mentioning that it's a bug that will be fixed in 0.10.
 
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Darting run

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About the sister, I don't have problems with that she changed completely and had sex with the MC (before she leaves). It's like a bad ending you should avoid and also something to fap to while waiting for future updates.

My concern is rather: what will the MC do after he has access to his sister's pussy. More sex positions, pregnancy (like many other games) or are there even something new?
There's a game Dreaming of Dana in which the sister later helps the MC enjoy other side chicks (she's still the number one). If this game can even top that: it will be loved for sure.
 
KakashiRei

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Darting run said:
My concern is rather: what will the MC do after he has access to his sister's pussy. More sex positions, pregnancy (like many other games) or are there even something new?
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Maybe, it can be one of the ending that MC choice. Later on the game update, the sister will soon build relationship with MC. It will take time.
 
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