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Yes, it's the SubscribeStar version. The difference is that Evelyn is not the MC's sister in the Patreon version.
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She did finish the story. She working on side content and the new game plus stuff. And have you even played the newer versions? because this comment clearly says you haven't.
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Again you clearly have not played this game as it's not as you describe it at all
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They are supposed to be, but because of how Ren'py works, this can occasionally fail. It seems to work most of the time, though.
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Quick question: how do you get Nell's sleep scenes? Whenever I try I get told she resists the Deep Sleep spell, and I can't recall if there's some way to make it work on her.
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I'm guessing its on Subscribestar, looks like the only version here is the Patreon one.
So nobody's gonna be the hero we need?
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i don't know... i don't see any different, Patron= Aldred is Evelyn's only remaining family, she is his nice SS= the same
that mean the MC is neither related to Evelyn nor Aldred... so she can't be his sister
that mean the MC is neither related to Evelyn nor Aldred... so she can't be his sister
Somebody please tell me the NTR scenes in this game...do Evelyn lets thyoddus fuck in pussy??....and how to increase peversity level??????......
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Both of these questions have been answered dozens of times in this thread. Please put in at least a minimal amount of effort in searching for an answer first.
I am with you. If you just take a purely statistical analysis of the game you first have to fail,then fail,then if you have done 1000+tasks correctly,in the correct order you can win. Short of an epic walkthrough(of the correct version,of the correct version...and no it is not a mistake to say that twice)then you can "win".
After my third playthrough I am with you. Screw this game.
I can't even follow the walk through, I suspect because of new game+, maybe... Many events don't correspond/don't happen at the same time, and I guess the WT is on the older side too now
The game is good, but the amount of interactions that needs to be done at borderline specific times, is simply impossible to remember or guess
Literally, nothing you just said is correct. Well, except your feelings, I suppose. Nothing I can do about those. Until the endgame, there are only two tasks you can truly fail at (Evelyn leaving and Primrose getting jailed), and both are not only basically hammering you over the head with their importance but also giving you ample opportunity to avoid the negative outcome (in Evelyn's case, repeated warnings. In Primrose's case, a generous time limit and characters telling you exactly what to do at every stage of the quest).
Apart from those two cases, you can't fail at anything until you start the endgame. You can chip away at your tasks in whatever order you wish, except in those cases where different tasks are prerequisites for each other, such as training an ability to achieve something else. Since not even the overall time limit is in effect right now, there is no threat of failure whatsoever. If you start the endgame without being ready for it, that's on you.
Having said that, I do understand where this impression of yours is coming from (except the anger. Which is inexcusable). What you're running into here is a significant problem with game design that is the direct reason why so few AAA games offer any genuine choice these days. What do I mean by that?
Well, let's ignore the cost and time involved in making multiple paths through a game and look at the experience from the player's point of view. If player choice is deeply integrated into the game and doesn't signpost itself in an obvious way, most players won't even realize that they have made choices and what the consequences of those choices were. Not unless they play the game again and deliberately do things differently. When things don't play out the way they wanted, they think that's because the game was designed to do the unwanted thing. They might never even become aware that there was a different way they could have done things to avoid whatever they stumbled into.
Through your playthrough(s) of LLtP, you've seen only a small subset of what is in the game and haven't been able to see behind the scenes to understand what is actually going on. Despite my efforts to make actions and consequences feel natural, they won't sink in with everyone for all kinds of reasons. But through your small lens and limited perspective, you have still drawn far-reaching conclusions. And those conclusions happen to be wrong.
Whose fault is that? *shrug* Beats me. I knew that I would get reactions like yours before I even started making this game because I was well aware of the game design conundrum I described in the above paragraphs. This is not a new problem in game design. It's just one that most big development studios have given up trying to solve, precisely because of reactions like yours.
But "screw this game" is probably going too far. If anything, go with "screw my experience with this game." That's far more descriptive for what you're dealing with. And it's not a problem that can be solved without railroading you through a game that straight up tells you "hey, you're about to make a choice between A and B, and that choice will change things in this and that way." That's not a type of game design I enjoy as a developer, so I'd rather have to deal with occasional reactions like yours than sacrifice my artistic vision, for what it's worth.
With the exception of Primrose's 7-day quest, all events in this game repeat infinitely until they succeed. Nothing (except Primrose) can be missed if a window slips you by. It will return. The game will tell you if a window is narrow enough that you need to know (such as which days Primrose's father drinks). If it doesn't tell you, that means the window is so frequently open that it doesn't matter. If you can't do it now, do it at your next opportunity. You won't miss your chance. It's literally impossible to do so.I can't even follow the walk through, I suspect because of new game+, maybe... Many events don't correspond/don't happen at the same time, and I guess the WT is on the older side too now
The game is good, but the amount of interactions that needs to be done at borderline specific times, is simply impossible to remember or guess
The reason you think otherwise is that you tried to use the walkthrough. That thing has caused so much confusion around here that it makes me want to rip my hair out.
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Pity me, I followed the walkthrough in OP, first time playing and I'm guessing bad ending guaranteed right now. If the walkthrough is wrong why is it still linked in OP?
As I did not follow ''To Do List'' properly, im gonna get bad ending (Primrose is in jail already), but if I were to play to the end right now, and start a new game afterwards, am I gonna keep my abilities?
The second question, if I were to follow ''To Do list'' is it guaranteed that I get the good ending?
And how do you actually know you're on the right track? <-(this question is tied to the last)
My third question is spesifically for Belle;
It seems the diffuculty of the game is based on a number of different parameters
1. Time Management
2. Characters
3. Time & Character combination
4. Locations
5. Time & Character & Location combinations
6. Decisions (The Right Answer/Interactions)
7. Time & Characters & Locations & Decisions combinations
8. Abilities
9. Time & Characters & Locations & Decisions & Abilities
It seems you're only gonna unlock scenes while keeping on the right track if you can one shot 9 out of 9 in my list.
Plz dont get me wrong here, I'm totally ok with the difficulty level of the game, but these are a lot of combinations and possibilities. The ''To Do List'' & ''Belle'' do not help that much as they lack info and hints.
Ex: After being guided by the game in early days, the player is left alone, beginning in the morning (especially further in the game) the player faced with around (3 x Amount of Characters x Amount of Locations x Amount of Possible Decisions / Interactions x Level of Abilities) = N******** number of total possibilities.
The only way for player to get the correct scenes in right time at right locations with corrects characters + the good ending is to ''know'' the right route out of these combinations. Which is impossible. So the games premise is that you have to play the game entirely couple of times so that you can get things right, right?
Please forgive my language Belle but this is total BS. Which could have been fixed & corrected with just an efficient quest-line that actually gives info on what to do next. Its not necessary to tell the player how to do, by what, via what, or with whom but its kind of a ''must'' situation to give player info on ''important'' quests and characters.
It seems there are handful of people that finished the game with a good ending + unlocking all the scenes. Or rather they claim to do so. Maybe, just maybe I'm the one that big fat idiot here. But still I dont think the player should be left alone with such combinations. Do you realize people are only capable of completing the game by coming here, or maybe discord (i did not check) what I mean is relying on the experiences of others to be able to do things in this game. Which you mislead by keeping the link of that totally irrelevant walkthrough around.
Anyways, I do want to enjoy this game but again maybe I'm thebig fat idiot in the room as I've said, I'm only hoping if I were to keep failing it with each and every re-start, evantually I should be able to figure it out by myself without relying on the aswers I could collect here, which by now becoming quasi - occulté knowledge that gives the aftertaste of sprinkled breadcrumbs for pigeons.
Regardless, I'm truely grateful that I can experience this ride freely.
As I did not follow ''To Do List'' properly, im gonna get bad ending (Primrose is in jail already), but if I were to play to the end right now, and start a new game afterwards, am I gonna keep my abilities?
The second question, if I were to follow ''To Do list'' is it guaranteed that I get the good ending?
And how do you actually know you're on the right track? <-(this question is tied to the last)
My third question is spesifically for Belle;
It seems the diffuculty of the game is based on a number of different parameters
1. Time Management
2. Characters
3. Time & Character combination
4. Locations
5. Time & Character & Location combinations
6. Decisions (The Right Answer/Interactions)
7. Time & Characters & Locations & Decisions combinations
8. Abilities
9. Time & Characters & Locations & Decisions & Abilities
It seems you're only gonna unlock scenes while keeping on the right track if you can one shot 9 out of 9 in my list.
Plz dont get me wrong here, I'm totally ok with the difficulty level of the game, but these are a lot of combinations and possibilities. The ''To Do List'' & ''Belle'' do not help that much as they lack info and hints.
Ex: After being guided by the game in early days, the player is left alone, beginning in the morning (especially further in the game) the player faced with around (3 x Amount of Characters x Amount of Locations x Amount of Possible Decisions / Interactions x Level of Abilities) = N******** number of total possibilities.
The only way for player to get the correct scenes in right time at right locations with corrects characters + the good ending is to ''know'' the right route out of these combinations. Which is impossible. So the games premise is that you have to play the game entirely couple of times so that you can get things right, right?
Please forgive my language Belle but this is total BS. Which could have been fixed & corrected with just an efficient quest-line that actually gives info on what to do next. Its not necessary to tell the player how to do, by what, via what, or with whom but its kind of a ''must'' situation to give player info on ''important'' quests and characters.
It seems there are handful of people that finished the game with a good ending + unlocking all the scenes. Or rather they claim to do so. Maybe, just maybe I'm the one that big fat idiot here. But still I dont think the player should be left alone with such combinations. Do you realize people are only capable of completing the game by coming here, or maybe discord (i did not check) what I mean is relying on the experiences of others to be able to do things in this game. Which you mislead by keeping the link of that totally irrelevant walkthrough around.
Anyways, I do want to enjoy this game but again maybe I'm thebig fat idiot in the room as I've said, I'm only hoping if I were to keep failing it with each and every re-start, evantually I should be able to figure it out by myself without relying on the aswers I could collect here, which by now becoming quasi - occulté knowledge that gives the aftertaste of sprinkled breadcrumbs for pigeons.
Regardless, I'm truely grateful that I can experience this ride freely.