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Incomplete? How so? If there is anything you feel like should have been included in it, let me know. It's not intended to be a walkthrough and is not meant to guide you through puzzles (only lead you to them), but I believe it should cover discoverable content that I don't deliberately want to keep obscure.
when confronting that demon/hell lord/whatever only help is trial and error.
 

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So the game makes mention that actions i might want to take are cut-off from first time play, that i'll need the be in a NG+ to access them... but on the face of it that sounds really annoying, is there any real benefit/cost to playing it properly or is cheating the stats higher going to mean i can save my time and just enjoy the content without arbitrary barriers? I'm not judging anything, i've only stuck a toe into the game and now sweet fuck all about it or its mechanics.

Edit: ok, continuing on a bit... is this game sort of roguelike? Your stats carry over and you only have like 10 days to 'win' before a Majora's Mask style reset?
 
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So the game makes mention that actions i might want to take are cut-off from first time play, that i'll need the be in a NG+ to access them... but on the face of it that sounds really annoying, is there any real benefit/cost to playing it properly or is cheating the stats higher going to mean i can save my time and just enjoy the content without arbitrary barriers? I'm not judging anything, i've only stuck a toe into the game and now sweet fuck all about it or its mechanics.
This game is specifically designed to not be a grind where you're supposed to build up stats before you get the sex scenes or story content. By cheating the stats, you're not only going to break your save, but you'll also skip a large number of sex scenes.
Cheating your stats won't help you enjoy this game. NG+ is a special case because of magic trickery happening behind the scenes that ensure you still get to see the scenes despite having improved stats already.

Edit: ok, continuing on a bit... is this game sort of roguelike? Your stats carry over and you only have like 10 days to 'win' before a Majora's Mask style reset?
Not really, though your description isn't entirely inaccurate. In any case, there is no time limit in the current version of the game, except for one particular quest that is clearly signposted when it happens.

Hi, Belle! First of all, congratulation! I love your game! It's really one of the best if not the best!
One question... I finished the normal game and now I'm on the new game plus. Should I wait for the final version or is it worth playing it now as it is? Or should I play the normal game all over again -- since, as I understood, it's finished bar minor adjustments -- and then play the "new game plus" when there's the final release?
I'm working on the main difference between NG and NG+ right now, which is Sister Agnes. Her story will only be available during NG+. Should you wait? That's up to you. If you're still missing scenes in the gallery, you might find it rewarding to seek those out in NG+.
 

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This game is specifically designed to not be a grind where you're supposed to build up stats before you get the sex scenes or story content. By cheating the stats, you're not only going to break your save, but you'll also skip a large number of sex scenes.
Cheating your stats won't help you enjoy this game. NG+ is a special case because of magic trickery happening behind the scenes that ensure you still get to see the scenes despite having improved stats already.
Not be a grind, ok, that's good, grinding is definitely not something i am against though, the only time it gets to me is when i miss content because i either did not know i needed X strength and Y stamina or did not know the importance of getting a stat upgrade at a certain point. I strongly detest wasting my time, i do enjoy choices but i want to follow a chosen path without arbitrary roadblocks that only exist cause each dev has a different idea of what constitutes fair mechanics. The mention of NG+ had me worried there'd be an endless series of roadblocks until all stats were maxed and the timeline was reset, allowing access to the final, true path.
Not really, though your description isn't entirely inaccurate. In any case, there is no time limit in the current version of the game, except for one particular quest that is clearly signposted when it happens.
Ok, that eases a degree of the 'timed game' pressure i was feeling. So it's more relaxed, like more common sandbox games? No biggy if i don't talk to Girl A/B/C on tuesday, just catch her the next day or tuesday next week?
 
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Ok, that eases a degree of the 'timed game' pressure i was feeling. So it's more relaxed, like more common sandbox games? No biggy if i don't talk to Girl A/B/C on tuesday, just catch her the next day or tuesday next week?
no timelimit atm nor action only on specific day (besides temp booster to 1 skill and 1 "teacher" teaching mc only if conditions are met).
 
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Does the MC's dick get bigger at some point? I know it's comical how in just about every adult game the dude as a foot-long ass-breaker and that this game's MC has a far more average size but it's pretty mundane, i sense a likely plot development where he gets a boost and the concept of spoilers means nothing to me, i just want to know if i should set my mind to 'this is how it is' or 'it will change at some point'.
 

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Does the MC's dick get bigger at some point? I know it's comical how in just about every adult game the dude as a foot-long ass-breaker and that this game's MC has a far more average size but it's pretty mundane, i sense a likely plot development where he gets a boost and the concept of spoilers means nothing to me, i just want to know if i should set my mind to 'this is how it is' or 'it will change at some point'.
It doesn't get bigger, but it might get smaller. All depends on how you play.
 
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It's not like there's a handy function of allowing you to save anytime, even during choices, and a rollback feature that let's you back out of a wrong choices to try again or anything...
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there is a limit to how much boring repeated head to the wall gameplay i want to go thro for each game. it's not like repeating the same 3 things over and over again is fun and engaging or results in a diferent outcome
my problem is not wrong choices/outcome my problem is 0 progression. at this point a game over would be preferable tbh.
 

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So the Fomorians were possessed, against their wills, and without their own will, the demons used their bodies to commit immense evil, were banished, and now the Fomorians blame themselves for being... tools?... huh? If i pick up a hammer and cave some guys skull in with it and then escape... do you arrest the hammer?
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This makes no sense to me, wtf did Samara even do? She didn't even exist then... This is 'original sin' garbage all over again.
 
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I'm still a bit concerned i could 'miss' content. Having trouble with this quest or that clue, my searches keep bringing up long winded 'paths' requiring many many steps to be completed for X to occur. Can i work my way past a clue or is there always a way to go back and collect it later so long as i have a save before the trigger for the scene requiring it is activated? I've finished that Primrose timed quest so according to Belle it's untimed now but that doesn't necessarily mean i can't lose access to C by unwittingly activating events in an A>B>D kind of order.
 

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I think the only thing like that would be when dealing with Evelyn. If you rush things too fast with her, then you can miss out on some content, but there's actually some content either way. If you managed to save Primrose, then you can't really miss any clues, so that's not a concern.
 
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there is a limit to how much boring repeated head to the wall gameplay i want to go thro for each game. it's not like repeating the same 3 things over and over again is fun and engaging or results in a diferent outcome
my problem is not wrong choices/outcome my problem is 0 progression. at this point a game over would be preferable tbh.
You don't know about holding the Ctrl key, do you ? You have to redo a scene (for example working to get money) ? Hold Ctrl and skip through already read text.

Or if you hate game that rethread same scenes and only want each to play only once, I guess you'll have more lunck in games that don't feature sandbox type gameplay.

Or you can just facepalm my post again since I'm not agreeing with you.
 

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You don't know about holding the Ctrl key, do you ? You have to redo a scene (for example working to get money) ? Hold Ctrl and skip through already read text.

Or if you hate game that rethread same scenes and only want each to play only once, I guess you'll have more lunck in games that don't feature sandbox type gameplay.

Or you can just facepalm my post again since I'm not agreeing with you.
sandbox games are fine, games where progression depends on wtf are not. as said until i got thoroughly stuck on a trio of self blocking things this was very enjoyable. yes i know about ctrl to skip and i have no problem repeating scenes. the problem is that i cant get throe a block (mabie i need a new game+ to progress maybe i did things in wrong order maybe didn't find the railroad tracks idk). irrelevant you either understand the issue or you don't. i hope you won't fall in similar manner. i'll find an other game in the meantime. good game while it worked, shame there isn't a better hint system/community.
 

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One thing to keep in mind is that you can "miss" content if you don't develop your relationships with the LIs far enough before you finish their storylines
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sandbox games are fine, games where progression depends on wtf are not. as said until i got thoroughly stuck on a trio of self blocking things this was very enjoyable. yes i know about ctrl to skip and i have no problem repeating scenes. the problem is that i cant get throe a block (mabie i need a new game+ to progress maybe i did things in wrong order maybe didn't find the railroad tracks idk). irrelevant you either understand the issue or you don't. i hope you won't fall in similar manner. i'll find an other game in the meantime. good game while it worked, shame there isn't a better hint system/community.
I've fninished the story, my dude. I haven't tackled NG+ yet, but I came to the end of the first run with absolutely no issue.
I don't know what to tell you. You probably missed or missunderstood something. There's no need to start and NG+ to "get farther", nor have I experienced any soft block.
 

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nzn What exactly is the part you're having trouble with? I only recall seeing that you've gotten stuck at some point but not what specific part is causing you trouble. Without knowing that detail, there's not much anyone can do to offer help nor can Belle properly go back to check if perhaps the given hints are insufficient.
 
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