I would say that since the last update at least one path became very committal and i guess MC will have to behave to stay in path. But if i got it right there will be two main, let's say, sides of endings, one around redemption, the other about corruptions/degeneracy. So i can't exclude that even this committal route won't have a 'positive' ending fucking around.
Well. That particular road isnt what float my boat. its more like a buildup in general. Just like in Being a DIK were most girls arent a casual hookup.
I feel you at that one. But since i started to the party fairly late i got Minas Content in my first walkthrough. but if you are early waiting for updates and some interesting stuff takes ages to happen i understand the feeling of frustration.
Hi!And to those who like Mina, always remember: "If she cheats with you, she will cheat on you."
I think context very much matters in this case.
Agreed. I consider boyfriend-girlfriend (or for that matter boyfriend-boyfriend, girlfriend-girlfriend, and any other gender identity-gender identity) relationships that have an implicit or explicit presumption of monogamy to follow something like contract law, much like a marriage does. Let's say Party A, call it "Killian" for simplicity's sake, enters a contract with Party B, called "Mina" hereafter, which implies monogamy and essentially no other guarantees. If "Killian" materially breaches that contract repeatedly and egregiously, then the contract must be remedied. Specific performance wouldn't work. "Killian" can't unfuck the maid. Financial damages and restitution could be accepted to remedy the breach in order enter a new contract, but "Mina" would have to agree to that remedy if offered. "Mina" doesn't seem like the materialistic, gold-digger type. With those other remedies ruled out, the contract is immediately cancelled. I suppose that specific performance could work, but "Killian" would have to agree to let "Mina" fuck around too to balance the scales. You would probably argue that a contract that guarantees monogamy and nothing else is void if the parties are no longer monogamous. But whether cancelled or remedied through specific performance, "Mina" didn't cheat. She was either on a free pass or single the minute she found out about "Killian's" cheating, possibly earlier depending on what ontological and epistemological frameworks can be argued.
Interesting versions of a whitewash attempt! Two wrongs do not make a right! Mina could have ended the relationship directly, instead of cheating herself with your help.
I mean, call it what you want, and while I respect your commitment to your ethics, my argument is that there aren't wrongs by both parties. The first dozen or so wrongs were all Ian's, and those wrongs voided the contract with Mina.
She legit hugged him, she threw herself at nobody and yes ian still fucked over mina multiple times before she even thought about leaving him.Always sad when somebody says Ian is the asshole - and then they go and cuck their best friend. Also Mina threw herself at her boyfriends best friend (the MC) starting from the first meeting in the cafe. Not such a good girl.
Just a game though. But if thats how people see things IRL...
As if she didnt know about the club and his multiple transgressions before that tape? The tape was just the last straw. She only asked the mc to go shopping because ian wouldnt go with her. It wasnt like she asked him first.
I was actually trying to reply to both of you, but didn't quote you both by mistake.-
(Edit: oh, your post was actually adressing Turret, my mistake)
Sure, fully agree. For me the difference is that she still considered herself Ian's girlfriend (and acted like it) and the MC needed to press her in the tub to end it asap iirc.
btw your example sounded suspiciously specific
Lol you don't get at all what honey trapping is. Go educate yourself
Wow, you are really a "polite" one! I know full well what a honeytrap is, which is why I used it here. The early Mina is a honeytrap laid out by TD, to see what we players do in the situation. Do we help our friends, do we sabotage them, do nothing....
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twisted coupled, but not married, also only 10 months longSo much text for a misunderstanding, that is quite funny! If you read my post correctly, you will see that I mentioned bad Karma in relation to the MC mostly, less Mina, even if she gets some too if you and her cheat on Ian. How we players act on this is TD´s first major moral test of the game, just not in the face type.Sorry if this come off as strong, but i also want to discuss this here to defend Mina actions.
kinda getting the vibe that everyone think cheating as like .
As a guy with open view, i think the idea itself is just as fucked up as any characters in this game, why she get karma? there will be consequences for her to try to be happy, because the target is her boyfriend's friend?? i've been cheated twice my life, first love and second love, so i can say Mina actions are way too meek, she's pretty much slap on the wrist of someone who stabs her back multiple times.
There are some important point, which i see while going through the game
1) Mina feel like she cannot trust ian, but he's her first, after an all girl school.
2) and she have never dated any other man, while ian fuck many other girls, which she knew, so it's not monogamy relationship in the first place.
3) Most IMPORTANT, Mina setting is that she's NOT the monogamy type either, she is a wild card and wouldn't mind an orgy itself if was comfortable enough, the only reason why she never done it is cuz she's doesn't feel safe enough with Ian.
4) to MC, friends are all important the same, old or new, proof is how he doesn't really remember bro's memories with Ian, mostly just Ian's affection toward MC from past event, so Mina is equally important to him, they're the only friend he have, seeing her unhappy with everything Ian did was hurting him too.
5) Ian is excited to watch Mina and MC kiss each other during the game, fine with MC being naked in front of her.
6) they're not married
7) Attention, most important part here, MC is strong enough to resist the temptation at the club, and she have never really actively seduce him, kiss him during the game because he make her feel safe (which ian never do), ian okays with it and it's part of her personality, same with peeking, all the way to ian cheating part discovered. she didn't make an active approached, and MC make his choice "fuck it, i'm going along" (which is you actually)
After all things considered, i feel players should feel the action more deeply and not judge because you're used to having one guy who can have many girls but once a girl is with another guy it's unacceptable, close friend or not, why is that? Why blame Mina for consequences, if there is even any at all?
I mean, for me really, with these guys personality, what do you expect the result to be after MC try to mend Mina and Ian relationship? it just gonna be a threesome with both of them banging her down along the line in the end, or foursome, if others are involved,
none of these guys NEED a normal relationship. None
Thanks for reading this long ass essay.
