Yes they are. Your arguments are literally countered by a simple glance around on F95. Hell, I saw two different DC related games, and surprise, one about Dragonball. That was a quick glance too. So go tell your lies to idiots who might actually believe them. And many others from other publishers who, apparently, strike out against parody games by your own claims, but all live on perfectly fine. So don’t use the that excuse when it’s really a fear of nothing.
I'll go tell my 'lies' when there are lies to be told. Until then, the truth is only a few pages back, written by Paradice himself and then quoted by him after. You can believe what you want, but what you believe and the actual status of this game are not the same. There is no such thing as a fear of nothing in this case, all it takes is the wrong person crossed by a developer, whether a player who doesn't like the direction a game is taking or a troll, to bring the attention and copyright claim from the actual copyright owners. It has happened before and it will eventually happen again, the only question for future cases is who will be struck by it. It was an extremely good precaution to take, a better one would have been not to make a parody from the start. This is Patreon we're talking about, they suspend first and ask questions later, so it is better to not take chances.
Hey man, it's not a winning fight here, Jinn has always been ranting about how this game is dead, even when it was getting weekly releases. If it's not on patreon, then the game is dead for him.
There's no lawsuit. There's nothing but fears in his own head, at present. So the game is on permanent hold, because chances are slim he'll resume it. The other game makes him money and he thinks this one doesn't. So, probably best to move on. Lots of other games out there doing great Parody games.so the game is on hold because of potential lawsuit ?
understanable, the other one is a good one to be profit and this can be (just to sastify horny bois)
take your time brother, you need it when it came to those lawsuit
PUT was out because of such thing too
i don't want another parody to be killed just because it doesn't fit their way of portray the original characters
As long as the Developer says that he returns to this game at some point, your reply here is bullshit.
Those artists aren't this one, this one won't ever continue it because, as both he and others have said, he doesn't see any money in it. Those other artists you mentioned worked on two games, but didn't drag one side of their fans through the dirt and completely ignore one while making both of them. Also, your argument that I have no idea whether their is a case is just...dumb. Straight up dumb. No offense, but it is.
Not directly, this version of the game was taken off of Patreon to avoid the potential for a lawsuit and another version of the game with completely original characters made with Honey Select 2 took its place. As a result, this one is currently on hold while the other gets more focus for funding reasons among others.so the game is on hold because of potential lawsuit ?
understanable, the other one is a good one to be profit and this can be (just to sastify horny bois)
take your time brother, you need it when it came to those lawsuit
PUT was out because of such thing too
i don't want another parody to be killed just because it doesn't fit their way of portray the original characters
There is no permanent hold, but there would have been if he had continued using this version for funding. This version is on hold because the other one, as the funded project, gets priority.
The removal was done as a precaution, there was no copyright holder telling him to stop, he started the other version as the one to be getting Patreon funding to make sure that didn't happen in the first place. The problem here is a clash between player impatience (and it is not a single player, there is a group of them) focused on the completely free version, the one that is not being funded by Patreon to avoid potential copyright issues, and the developer placing more focus on the one getting him funding to continue development.
"Potential" is enough for me to put me on edge
Looking into it, it seems that Fakku (the EN distributor of Honey Select) actually made a statement on it since I last looked into the issue. See the discord photos but the President of FAKKU said its not okay to use any assets from Honey Select for any commercial projects so both games are already doing something that could get a cease and desist unless he's spoken with FAKKU and obtained permission already which is information I wouldn't have. There really isnt more of an argument about legality its essentially just whatever project he feels like working on with my current understanding of the issue, could be missing some important details so take it with a grain of salt. If he did already get a license from FAKKU there could be some other legal reason for the switch just dont know that.
Same, I would have done the same exact thing given the potential of my entire development operation being destroyed by copyright claims. Actually, I would have just done the H version from the start to avoid it entirely. Nintendo is another good example of companies that are even ignoring fair use, they've been making claims despite blatant fair use in projects they claim on for a while now.
Patreon is a grey area, it technically isn't selling the game, it is supporting the developer. People like to claim they are paying for the game, but that is not and never was the case.
FAKKU is known for pulling shady crap to get money off of unsuspecting people, they cannot be trusted to be acting in good faith in this case, especially Jacob.
then what's the point with Studio NEO in the first place right ?
Im assuming you didnt go through the article and just saw the one discord post, Illusion confirmed in an email that FAKKU does indeed have the enforcement power for Honey Selects copyright, they made it explicitly clear that patreon was not a grey area, if you posted their games content their and were making money without a license it was a violation of their copyright. You can call the president shady all you want but that doesnt change that they do seem to have legitimacy in their claims to dealing with copyright. The dev would need to obtain permission from FAKKU in the form of some license to make a game using their assets, if you post paywalled content like progress updates using screenshots from their game thats still considered making money off patreon using their assets no matter how you word salad it and could potentially be a legal issue down the line. There have been a few cases in the US where porn devs are told their parody isn't fair use if they use the characters from certain franchises without permission, I dont intend to get into an argument over this I'm just pointing out the facts of the case as I see them. Both the H version and Parody version would both be in some hot water unless the dev already talked with FAKKU for the license, I believe Runey got a license from FAKKU to continue the development of Harem Hotel so it should be possible to get one then he could work on the H version without a care. For the parody he needs to make sure its different enough from the actual property to constitute its own thing which I think it would already be at that point but I'm not a copyright lawyer.
FAKKU doesn't have distribution rights to any game used by Paradice, they have the distribution rights of Honey Select 1 while Illusion went directly to Steam with Koikatsu (used for this version of Public Sex Life) and has yet to release Honey Select 2 (used for Public Sex Life H) at all outside of Japan. Illusion alone has the copyright powers on the games used in this case and they have shown themselves to be unwilling to enforce outside Japan, so Public Sex Life and Public Sex Life H are both safe from Illusion, it's the copyright holders for characters like Raven or Froppy he has to worry about as they have the history proving a will to enforce.
No, abandoned would be neither version getting work done and no contact, no posts at all on any site Paradice is known to visit and update the game on, for at least three months. So far, the closest to abandoned this has gotten is more focus being put on the other version due to it being funded.
