Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Heavy Sleeper]

Why are you resurrecting a dead conversation,

My intent never to push a theory, My argument was about challenging assumptions, you presented a good response to the challenge "Drew is an Unknown" with the quote you offered.
HypnoSoul offered another when he said the MC might be under the effect of Hunters Drugs too (this is called a reasonable theory, you don't need quotes for that).

The thing that provoked my challenge was what I saw as a large volume of conjecture being presented as fact, clearly I was wrong about some parts of that. But that's what debate is for, highlighting flaws in our beliefs, and learning things you never saw before.

PS: Seriously? Who the fuck needs proof to doubt the word of the games established "Bad Guy"

You want to us to not make assumptions, ok. give us reason to see otherwise, you can't just say "maybe the hulk only painted his body green and hide inside a giant suite" and expect people to just say "oh.. you might be right. I should be better then just assume what I'm seeing is not as I'm seeing it" people want you to bring something to counter what they are saying for any good argument to be made, but all you did is say that what we said was conjecture while providing zero in game reasons as to why we shouldn't assume that or just take it as fact.

That's why I keep bringing it up, because you didn't give as any reason to doubt our view of the game. "don't believe your lying eyes" comes to mind as to what your argument amounted to. You didn't make good argument based on facts, but pure assumptions, which as how you tried to spin as what our argument as been this whole time.

 

[Stil996]

You want to us to not make assumptions, ok. give us reason to see otherwise, you can't just say "maybe the hulk only painted his body green and hide inside a giant suite" and expect people to just say "oh.. you might be right. I should be better then just assume what I'm seeing is not as I'm seeing it" people want you to bring something to counter what they are saying for any good argument to be made, but all you did is say that what we said was conjecture while providing zero in game reasons as to why we shouldn't assume that or just take it as fact.

That's why I keep bringing it up, because you didn't give as any reason to doubt our view of the game. "don't believe your lying eyes" comes to mind as to what your argument amounted to. You didn't make good argument based on facts, but pure assumptions, which as how you tried to spin as what our argument as been this whole time.

Nothing I've posted was intended as an attack, but you seem determined to take it as one.
I'm not sure else I can say that hasn't already been said,

I attempted to separate Fact from Conjecture. sue me

This conversation needs to die. It's already dominated to much of this thread.

 

[Solarous]

Wow... y'all really kept arguing about this for like 6 or 7 pages worth of forum while I was gone ... okay.

Don't read any of this if you haven't finished the current version of the game yet (or if you really like having things spoiled for you, I guess).

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yep this is what we have been saying cant see it any other way (we tried) and it pans out the same

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Nothing I've posted was intended as an attack, but you seem determined to take it as one.
I'm not sure else I can say that hasn't already been said,

I attempted to separate Fact from Conjecture. sue me

This conversation needs to die. It's already dominated to much of this thread.

Again, don't put words in my month. I never called you any names or attacked you personally, I talked about the facts of the game and what we could see or the points of the argument you used. If I did offend you, I'm sorry.

If you think I took offence to any of that I'll set the record straight, I didn't. This is a forum to talk about the game, and that's what I did. I just wanted to stick to what's in the game.



And for the sake of moving on, I'll say that as someone who never wants to see futa/trans content(and avoid it at all times) Drew somehow made me interested. I guess because of the story build up, and the style of the game it felt fitting? I figured I'll dislike this update due to that fact, but it add quite a bit of spice to the update.

I don't like "hey, here is a character you like, now she has a dick... a giant one for no reason... happy?" but Drew felt like a person, a manipulative one but a person nonetheless

 

[Icarus Media]

And for the sake of moving on, I'll say that as someone who never wants to see futa/trans content(and avoid it at all times) Drew somehow made me interested. I guess because of the story build up, and the style of the game it felt fitting? I figured I'll dislike this update due to that fact, but it add quite a bit of spice to the update.

I don't like "hey, here is a character you like, now she has a dick... a giant one for now reason... happy?" but Drew felt like a person, a manipulative one but a person nonetheless

Yes....yes....let the futa/trans flow through you....

 

[Dorzim]

Does anyone find the appeal of NTR to be the enjoyment of watching others' humiliation? Classic schadenfreude, kind of like gawking at a car crash, or watching "fail" videos. Maybe some people like it as a cuckold fantasy, but for me NTR is more sadistic than masochistic.

I think the pain of someone I don't know is different from the pain of the main character of the story I'm immersed in

 

[RolandG.]

Hello, does anyone here have save files from the end version 9 ?

Mine are unfortunately all gone with the new update....

 

[Stil996]

Hello, does anyone here have save files from the end version 9 ?

Mine are unfortunately all gone with the new update....

#12,990

 

[gplegendary]

Yo dev next please make the what if about Ophelia. I've seen too many Breanna ones we need some milf action too.

 

[Otyi]

Thanks guys! That was a good update.

 

[What's Up Doc?]

Is it normal that I want to be in Hunter's shoes?

 

[Grimstar]

Yes....yes....let the futa/trans flow through you....

Futa/trans content is a pathway to many faps some consider to be.... unnatural

 

[Apollo1337187]

does someon has the chapter 10 savefile?

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I think the pain of someone I don't know is different from the pain of the main character of the story I'm immersed in

Yes that's true, but that's actually not what I meant. I'm talking about the humiliation of the love interest herself, not necessarily that she gets taken from the main character. The way she gets reduced to an incoherent mess as she's tricked and used, there's just something amusing about that to me and it doesn't have anything to do with the main character. That's why I said it's sadistic (enjoying someone else's suffering), and not masochistic (enjoying your own suffering).

It's just a different perspective on NTR, one that's possible if you can detach a little from the main character and view the story as an outside observer.

 

[wackojack0]

are you playing CH 10 Beta?

yeah i am

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Yes that's true, but that's actually not what I meant. I'm talking about the humiliation of the love interest herself, not necessarily that she gets taken from the main character. The way she gets reduced to an incoherent mess as she's tricked and used, there's just something amusing about that to me and it doesn't have anything to do with the main character. That's why I said it's sadistic (enjoying someone else's suffering), and not masochistic (enjoying your own suffering).

It's just a different perspective on NTR, one that's possible if you can detach a little from the main character and view the story as an outside observer.

exactly, you nailed it. I don't put my self in the mc shoes, I'm just an observer seeing as the puppets play. For me watching NTR, is like watching a good movie with a good twist. The level of depravity that comes with that only adds to the enjoyment.

For the most part, I dislike when the mc is just a "self insert" I want the mc to have their own personality, so I could see how the story unfold through their eyes.

 

[Lucifer Frost]

can anyone share chapter 9 complete save file? need it for chapter 10 test build

 

[dogorox]

getting too many "image not found" errors. used the mega download.

Same

 

[dogorox]

So it's not only a save from CH9 that's required, but you also have to copy/paste CH10 over CH9 because the CH10 download is missing some files? Notably img files?

 

[NachoAndCheez]

So it's not only a save from CH9 that's required, but you also have to copy/paste CH10 over CH9 because the CH10 download is missing some files? Notably img files?

It's a beta, it's just to check for bugs on the new content so as not to make the backers (who are the testers) download what would be now like 5 gigs everything that is not new content is taken out.