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Atemsiel

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i guess i'm dumb as fuck because i genuinely tried to obtain the submissive route for everycharacter, ultimately failing with Cassie who ends up(at least for now) in romance route regardless...not to mention how pointless it feels when a few "hints"(it's hard to call it an actual walkthrough) seems to talk about potential changes

but i guess i'm dumb
The thing is that not all routes are currently available for all girls. The walkthrough tells you when the routes will be closed by your choices though. If it says a route is still open then that route is still possible for you to get. Unless the bug still exists (Or you're not on the latest version), Cassie either ends up on the Romance route, or no route yet. Either way, she'll be able to transition to any other route later on.

Generally, the choices that appear to be hints are like that because the alternative is that I say nothing, and you're on your own with no information. I can't accurately say what a choice that's intended to affect things in a future update will do. I can only say what I think they'll probably do, so that the player can at least use that to inform their decision instead of just be left with no idea at all what a choice might do. All other choices I would argue are definitely a lot more detailed than just hints. The walkthrough is also a work in progress, so changes to the walkthrough will likely happen over time as new parts are added to the game, with the goal that when 1.0 happens, it will be 100% accurate. Until then, it must be taken with a grain of salt. I am aware though that it's quite verbose in places. I'm looking at ways to make the walkthrough conditional so you don't get massive walls of text telling you every possible thing that can happen, and instead it just tells you what will happen in your case if you pick an option. Not possible yet, but that's the ideal.


One exception to all this is the one choice I've been told about that I forgot I did where it straight up tells you to ask me for more details in the discord. I meant to remove that before release, but oh well. I'll still answer in the discord if people do actually post about that, but that one will be replaced by the effects of that choice in the next update.
 

OnePT12

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Not sure if this was mentioned or not, but going to ask anyway.
I've noticed a possible oversight (not sure if it's intended this way or not) when you take Riley to your room after the house party incident.
On any other route she tells you about Cassie if you earlier chose that Cassie can still do stuff to Riley, but on this route she doesn't mention it at all and when you get to the gym scene with Cassie she offers to take their virginity together.
I can see that it checks for the Riley 'lesbian' variable, but it will always be true since you can't change that on this route.

Are you planning to add this choice later or it was maybe an oversight?

BTW enjoying the game so far, really good stuff.
 

Nekronoth

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I was going in thinking this was gonna be another alright generic type game but I couldn't be more wrong. It was a blast reaching the end of the current patch. There's so much corny humor that flows really well with the game that it kept me interested all the way through, wanting to know what wacky shit happened next. Will be looking out for this going forward.
 
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Atemsiel

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Not sure if this was mentioned or not, but going to ask anyway.
I've noticed a possible oversight (not sure if it's intended this way or not) when you take Riley to your room after the house party incident.
On any other route she tells you about Cassie if you earlier chose that Cassie can still do stuff to Riley, but on this route she doesn't mention it at all and when you get to the gym scene with Cassie she offers to take their virginity together.
I can see that it checks for the Riley 'lesbian' variable, but it will always be true since you can't change that on this route.

Are you planning to add this choice later or it was maybe an oversight?

BTW enjoying the game so far, really good stuff.
Yes, this is intentional. That specific route has some differences to what happens if you stay in Riley's room, as you may have noticed. This is the only route where Cassie actually knows that Riley is MC's girlfriend (Assuming she is), or what happened at the party in general. In the next update they're intended to have a bit of a catch up where Cassie is told about all that stuff if she doesn't already know, but the conversation is also a catch all for things like this. It's likely that Cassie herself will ask Riley if she's told MC about the lesbian thing, prompting Riley to have a bit of an "OH SHIT!" moment. Should be fun.

Granted, it didn't start intentional. Initially I just straight up forgot to put it in the scene and only noticed a few months later. I do that sort of thing a lot though which is why you sometimes have the same thing happening in different scenes. (For example, Hikari inviting you shopping might not happen depending on your choices, but if it doesn't happen then she'll either do it later, or you might offer to take her shopping instead. I didn't want to just force her suddenly asking you to go shopping into a scene where it doesn't really fit the conversation, when I can just have her do it later instead in a different conversation)

I like it this way because to me it almost feels more natural. If I forgot to make Riley bring it up, then maybe Riley forgot to bring it up. I get a bit tired of that trope of characters never actually forgetting things. I'm aware that that sort of thing is usually necessary to keep a plot engaging, and in things like a movie having a character just forget things usually serves no purpose, but to me stuff like that is what seperates a character from a real person, and I'm aiming to make the girls feel like the latter as much as possible. (Keeping in mind all the wacky porn game bullshit)

I was going in thinking this was gonna be another alright generic type game but I couldn't be more wrong. It was a blast reaching the end of the current patch. There's so much corny humor that flows really well with the game that it kept me interested all the way through, wanting to know what wacky shit happened next. Will be looking out for this going forward.
Hah, thanks. That's kinda exactly what I was going for. School based harem is possibly the most oversaturated genre in AVNs imo, and I knew going in that unless someone already knew what the game was like, it was just gonna look like yet another school based harem game (Which I guess it is).

I'm hoping over time the things I put in it to try to make it different end up with the game speaking for itself and word of mouth convincing people to try it who otherwise dismissed it as another alright generic type game. (As you say)

No idea if it's gonna work, but with so many games being released every day it feels like, I think the game needs to speak for itself, especially in the school based harem. Hopefully I can make this game do that.
 
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OnePT12

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Yes, this is intentional. That specific route has some differences to what happens if you stay in Riley's room, as you may have noticed. This is the only route where Cassie actually knows that Riley is MC's girlfriend (Assuming she is), or what happened at the party in general. In the next update they're intended to have a bit of a catch up where Cassie is told about all that stuff if she doesn't already know, but the conversation is also a catch all for things like this. It's likely that Cassie herself will ask Riley if she's told MC about the lesbian thing, prompting Riley to have a bit of an "OH SHIT!" moment. Should be fun.

Granted, it didn't start intentional. Initially I just straight up forgot to put it in the scene and only noticed a few months later. I do that sort of thing a lot though which is why you sometimes have the same thing happening in different scenes. (For example, Hikari inviting you shopping might not happen depending on your choices, but if it doesn't happen then she'll either do it later, or you might offer to take her shopping instead. I didn't want to just force her suddenly asking you to go shopping into a scene where it doesn't really fit the conversation, when I can just have her do it later instead in a different conversation)

I like it this way because to me it almost feels more natural. If I forgot to make Riley bring it up, then maybe Riley forgot to bring it up. I get a bit tired of that trope of characters never actually forgetting things. I'm aware that that sort of thing is usually necessary to keep a plot engaging, and in things like a movie having a character just forget things usually serves no purpose, but to me stuff like that is what seperates a character from a real person, and I'm aiming to make the girls feel like the latter as much as possible. (Keeping in mind all the wacky porn game bullshit)



Hah, thanks. That's kinda exactly what I was going for. School based harem is possibly the most oversaturated genre in AVNs imo, and I knew going in that unless someone already knew what the game was like, it was just gonna look like yet another school based harem game (Which I guess it is).

I'm hoping over time the things I put in it to try to make it different end up with the game speaking for itself and word of mouth convincing people to try it who otherwise dismissed it as another alright generic type game. (As you say)

No idea if it's gonna work, but with so many games being released every day it feels like, I think the game needs to speak for itself, especially in the school based harem. Hopefully I can make this game do that.
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. So all in all it started as an 'oopsie' but might as well make something fun out of it.
I'm guessing we'll be able to put a stop to it after that catch up(?), not that it matters to me, as I don't mind the lesbian content, but probably it would make sense since Riley just forgot to mention it. It could lead to another conversation with Cassie if we agreed to it or not without talking to Riley first. Good stuff. :)
 

Atemsiel

Developer of Stormside
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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. So all in all it started as an 'oopsie' but might as well make something fun out of it.
I'm guessing we'll be able to put a stop to it after that catch up(?), not that it matters to me, as I don't mind the lesbian content, but probably it would make sense since Riley just forgot to mention it. It could lead to another conversation with Cassie if we agreed to it or not without talking to Riley first. Good stuff. :)
Plan is that Riley would immediately call MC to have that conversation, and if he gives permission it'd probably immediately lead to a lesbian scene since Cassie was present to hear him say it. This also opens up potential for a specific Cassie animation if MC gave Cassie permission, but forbids Riley while Cassie is there to hear it happen. Alternatively, if this situation has happened as a result of decisions made on the other routes, then it'd result in Cassie being confused.
 

YogSothoth1982

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Jun 26, 2018
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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. So all in all it started as an 'oopsie' but might as well make something fun out of it.
I'm guessing we'll be able to put a stop to it after that catch up(?), not that it matters to me, as I don't mind the lesbian content, but probably it would make sense since Riley just forgot to mention it. It could lead to another conversation with Cassie if we agreed to it or not without talking to Riley first. Good stuff. :)
I have chosen to disable lesbian content from the beginning and for now they haven't even really mentioned it.
 

Ka1tzer

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Jan 12, 2023
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I like the game quite a bit, but I must say that I dislike how the branching is too much. Especially since those are branches that start much prior to you seeing the scenes (aka the consequences) of each branch.

The fact that there are like 4 variations of the same scene that have different triggers just kind of annoys me. That's my personal take, take it with a grain of salt. The dev should do whatever the dev wants to do. After all, it's his game.

That said, I'd much rather have more scenes with other girls than several scenes of the same branching event for one girl.

That said, the option to unlock everything at the end of the update is excellent and minimizes (if not altogether eliminates) most of what I said. It still stands that instead of rendering several variations of the same scene, I'd prefer different scenes with different characters (especially now since the cast just got quite bloated with a bunch of new characters).

But again, take my opinion with a grain of salt.
 

OnePT12

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Feb 21, 2023
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I have chosen to disable lesbian content from the beginning and for now they haven't even really mentioned it.
Yes I know that's an option. As I said I don't mind lesbian content, but I wasn't sure if that was supposed to happen that way or not, so I just wanted to clarify that.
I also planned to have a save where MC tells Cassie it's ok to do stuff with Riley, but after getting Riley he doesn't want that to happen anymore. I was curious if that changes dialogues/scenes or not and how Cassie reacts to that when she finds out.

Plan is that Riley would immediately call MC to have that conversation, and if he gives permission it'd probably immediately lead to a lesbian scene since Cassie was present to hear him say it. This also opens up potential for a specific Cassie animation if MC gave Cassie permission, but forbids Riley while Cassie is there to hear it happen. Alternatively, if this situation has happened as a result of decisions made on the other routes, then it'd result in Cassie being confused.
Yap, that's what I was kinda expecting. Everything is covered. :) Thanks for taking the time answering.
Great game, I've played 100+ AVNs and this is one of my favorites. Keep it up!

*Also I found a potential bug, not sure where to report it so I'm just going to post it here.
There's a potential bug/inconsistency when you enter Riley sub route by punishing her for being late from gym class, then later texting her to come over at the end of day. MC says that 'Actually, no. She's just gonna pester me to let her cum' and he doesn't invite her over. MC had no such opportunity because Riley only got spanked because she just became a sub. So on this route MC can't spend the night with Riley, which I'm not sure how important is for the next episodes, but wanted to mention it anyway.
 
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Atemsiel

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*Also I found a potential bug, not sure where to report it so I'm just going to post it here.
There's a potential bug/inconsistency when you enter Riley sub route by punishing her for being late from gym class, then later texting her to come over at the end of day. MC says that 'Actually, no. She's just gonna pester me to let her cum' and he doesn't invite her over. MC had no such opportunity because Riley only got spanked because she just became a sub. So on this route MC can't spend the night with Riley, which I'm not sure how important is for the next episodes, but wanted to mention it anyway.

Ohhhh, yep, that's a bug, easy fix too, but damn, uploading all that again oh godddd.

I think that one will be fixed in 0.23. Thanks for letting me know.

Edit: Fixed, so yeah that'll go in the next version. Thanks.
 
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SilentType

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The renders in this game appear to be getting better as you go through the game, which is always a good sign. The dev seems like a very talented programmer too, I just hope the game doesn't get too bogged down with different routes, as is common with a lot of unfinished titles.

The phone UI can be a bit clunky to use, and there's a few places where I'd personally move some things around or change some fonts as a graphic designer. But other than that, it's clear there's a lot of care put into this title, and the dev seems passionate, well done!
 

JHorcoc6

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I am considering subscribing to this game, but I have some questions.

1.) I know it just updated recently, so it will probably be a while, but approximately how often should we expect updates?

2.) I noticed that there are 116 supporters on Patreon but only 1 on Subscribestar and that there is one less tier available on Subscribestar than Patreon. Why is this? I generally prefer Subscribestar because it is less restrictive towards content, but is there some reason that this game's supporters prefer Patreon? Also, why is the upper tier not available on Subscribestar?
 

Tiur

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1.) I know it just updated recently, so it will probably be a while, but approximately how often should we expect updates?
It was a while for this update, but it was also an extraordinarily complex update. Dev says future updates should come sooner, and he's working actively toward that end.

2.) I noticed that there are 116 supporters on Patreon but only 1 on Subscribestar and that there is one less tier available on Subscribestar than Patreon. Why is this? I generally prefer Subscribestar because it is less restrictive towards content, but is there some reason that this game's supporters prefer Patreon? Also, why is the upper tier not available on Subscribestar?
The dev's SubscribeStar is newly-created. The extra Patreon-only tier is for custom renders, and has a strict limit on the number of subscribers, so there's no good reason to have that tier exist in both places.
 

Demoness_Kiss

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It was a while for this update, but it was also an extraordinarily complex update. Dev says future updates should come sooner, and he's working actively toward that end.


The dev's SubscribeStar is newly-created. The extra Patreon-only tier is for custom renders, and has a strict limit on the number of subscribers, so there's no good reason to have that tier exist in both places.
ALSO considering that patreon is going to tax creators even more, it's only a matter of time for everyone to go elsewhere like itch.io and subscribestar
 

cctt22

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just finished playing, really nice game. How often does this get updated? If someone can give me approx
 

Atemsiel

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I am considering subscribing to this game, but I have some questions.

1.) I know it just updated recently, so it will probably be a while, but approximately how often should we expect updates?

2.) I noticed that there are 116 supporters on Patreon but only 1 on Subscribestar and that there is one less tier available on Subscribestar than Patreon. Why is this? I generally prefer Subscribestar because it is less restrictive towards content, but is there some reason that this game's supporters prefer Patreon? Also, why is the upper tier not available on Subscribestar?
As Tiur said, the plan for releases is shifting towards a smaller but more frequent release model, specifically so that people don't have to wait 7 months between updates. I don't want this to be the normal update cycle. Thing is, talk is cheap. If I were you, I'd recommend just keeping an eye on the project to see how frequent releases end up being, and decide whether it's worth it or not for you based on that. Not even I can accurately predict it at the moment, I can only state intentions.

Also yeah, the subscribestar was created specifically for this release so has only been active for about a week. The patreon on the other hand has been running for a full year. (Literally to the day. I got an email from them today about what they called my "Patreon-niversary" lol)
I don't believe that's the only reason that the patreon is more active though. It's generally a larger and more trusted platform, so people tend to lean towards it over SubscribeStar unless what they're subscribing to includes content that isn't allowed on patreon. I have it there as something of a backup in case patreon suddenly decides that my game isn't ok for whatever reason, which could theoretically happen based on how vague the rules are surrounding sexual violence.

As for why the Magistrate tier isn't on subscribestar, it's because all that tier does is give people access to custom renders. I have it limited so I don't end up having to do too many of them, and whilst subscribestar does support limiting the number of people who can subscribe to a tier, my supporterbase split is like 99% patreon, so I decided to just offer it only there instead. Might change in future if the supporterbase becomes more balanced between patreon and subscribestar, but I don't think that ever really happens.
just finished playing, really nice game. How often does this get updated? If someone can give me approx
See above. Glad you liked it though :D


ALSO considering that patreon is going to tax creators even more, it's only a matter of time for everyone to go elsewhere like itch.io and subscribestar
When you say they're going to, have they released something suggesting they're increasing their cut? Currently it's at 8% for the plan I'm on, meaning it's basically the same as SS, which is at 7%. SS also won't let me actually withdraw anything until I have $150 sat in there, so I imagine I won't be withdrawing anything from them for a while xD

I got like $4 in there $$$$$$$ Cash money life :cool::cool::cool:
 

JHorcoc6

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I think I just found a bug.

I've done several playthroughs choosing different options and in my latest playthrough I reached the point where Akemi offered to let MC spank her instead of Hikari but I rejected her offer and said that MC still planned to spank Hikari. In this latest playthrough this led to a scene in which Hikari visited MC's room and thanked him for agreeing not to spank her when he had actually said the opposite. There didn't seem to be an option that led to Hikari being spanked after the incident in the gym.

This happened during a playthrough in which MC spanked Hikari to punish her for talking in class, apologized to her afterwards, and went to a clothing store with her, so MC was on seemingly good terms with Hikari.
 
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