Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Deleted member 324588]

How they planned to iterate and develop the game over the course of a year has little to no bearing on overzealously setting a release window they overshot by a year already, and is looking like will be another year, at best, on top of that. You don't address the point of them going from a "minimum of 12 months" of overall development time to what will in all likely hood be well over 36 months when talking about whether they will do weekly updates, or updates every couple months.

Edit: How they plan to develop the game over time shouldn't make a difference on whether they set a reasonable release window date in the first place, that is only a description of how they reach that release window. Of course their mistake was putting that "minimum 12 months" up on the early access post in the first place, and the fact that it's still there 29 months later is a hilarious note in an of itself.

Also By March 26th 2021 the day this game went early access, whether they are based in the US or in the UK, I've found claims of them being based in both areas, the first vaccines were already available in both countries. So what bearing did the virus have a year after actual pandemic, when they had access to vaccines already by the time development began on the demo release in earnest?

The campaign was funded in 2019, early access began in 2021. There’s a lot of pandemic time in that. You wanna point out a date, I could just gesture at Cyberpunk 2077, which has vastly more resources and experienced staff, which had multiple dates and still released in less than ideal condition.

Things change, and they’re not always gonna be for the better. But they haven’t dropped the content, they just want to save the best for last, and I don’t think that’s a high ask.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Please find the quote in my posts where I referenced 2019. Because if you can't find it, then you are trying to shift the goalpost to combat an argument I never made, I specifically quoted the timeframe they gave AFTER they entered early access in 2021, not before back in 2019 with this image earlier pulled from their steam store page,
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At best, you could say the demo could have entered early access perhaps a year or so sooner because of the pandemic, but that has no bearing on the point that they gave an unrealistic development timeframe AFTER it entered early access in 2021, a year after the pandemic began when vaccines became available when they launched in early access.

To be clear, I don't even blame them for missing that window. I never really expected a year was long enough, game development is hard work. But it's something I keep in mind every time a studio gives a general release timeframe, I tend to take them all with a grain of salt.

I say it's a very unreasonably high ask to renege on the terms of the game's early access some time after the fact when they've already collected most of the benefits and have decided they shouldn't be subject to the consequences.

Can’t help but notice you’ve been using that image and not pointing at the part that says ‘minimum’. Not maximum. They projected to be in early access for at least a year.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Yes that is correct that it does say minimum, they've only overshot the minimum goal by how many extra months so far? 17? With at least 12 more to go at the minimum? So they are only going to triple that minimum time frame at best.

Again, I don't even have an issue with it taking as long as it has to, but it's still funny to note.

And I did correctly say it was at minimum 12 months in a previous post.

That was basically there to say ‘don’t expect this to be done in a year’ and given the first major update took 7 months due to extenuating circumstances, I’d say they were right to put that. Since then they’ve consistently dropped content every 3-4 months. I see no reason to doubt their work effort.

 

[mughe51201]

guys i just downloaded torrent file from RPDL team but its didnt work its said
no download source available how to fix that plz help

 

[deiter69]

...I find it a lot more fulfilling than just another match-3 or rpgmaker clone type game. Or the number of Renpy engine games on this forum with similar looking ladies.

This is NOT a porn game, remember? Why are you comparing it to porn games? You should be telling us that you find it more fulfilling than X-COM or Fire Emblem!

 

[VanillaLover]

This is NOT a porn game, remember? Why are you comparing it to porn games? You should be telling us that you find it more fulfilling than X-COM or Fire Emblem!

It feels like the devs really wanted to make a game wherein their audience wouldn't be biased towards a genre (e.g. Porn) and create a Witcher "has sex but no one really cares" vibe; But their mistake is that they advertised it as such.

 

[UZone]

Oh man, this project is the gift that keeps on giving, just not in the way you expect it to. Haven't posted here in a long time, but after seeing how retarded this latest dev log was I just couldn't resist.

So basically, all those devotion scenes FOW have been hyping up for the past several years. the ones they said would blow all the stuff in Pandora out of the water, the ones they said would be similar in quality to their previous movies, the ones they asked their backers to wait for before judging the adult content, etc, etc...will now be inaccessible to those very same backers

Let's look at some of the highest rated feedback in the comments on Steam, shall we?
















Sorry for the screenshot spam, but this stuff is just too funny to miss. What happened to FOW, man? They used to be at the top of the adult animation industry, and look at them now. At this point, I think I'll do exactly what the devs don't want me to do and just wait for the complete scenes to be uploaded online once v1.0 is released...supposedly next year lol. As those people on Steam have mentioned, there is absolutely no point in playing Subverse from now until the release, so might as well just sit back and watch how this unfolds in the next year.

 

[KittyMaid]

This is NOT a porn game, remember? Why are you comparing it to porn games? You should be telling us that you find it more fulfilling than X-COM or Fire Emblem!

It feels like the devs really wanted to make a game wherein their audience wouldn't be biased towards a genre (e.g. Porn) and create a Witcher "has sex but no one really cares" vibe; But their mistake is that they advertised it as such.

What kind is misformation is that? It's literally advertised as a sci-fi parody sex game. Where did you get Witcher from? Sex and comedy are its prime targets. I don't recall Witcher doing the same. Not only do they both focus on different things but their story themes are not even close, nor is the gameplay either. You wouldn't have to say stuff like "It feels like the devs really wanted" if you just read what they post, they tell you exactly what they want. Why are you "feeling" instead of reading?

 

[Deleted member 6429235]

Here I will do the legwork for you of giving context you lack. deiter69 is making a joke about older posts that VValen has been posting in this thread for a long time now. Here are several examples of VValen constantly saying Subverse is not a porn game, but a game with porn in it. [1][2]

As for Vanilla's comment, idk how someone's opinion on how they feel about something is misinformation. Is their subjective opinion a false statement of how they feel? Or do you just not like the opinion shared?

For me and most people, I even think for the majority, is Subverse a porn game! And I will compare it to other porn games and how enjoyable it is.

For me I would give it a 2/5 or a 3/10. I think it is a bad porn game.

 

[HardcoreCuddler]

Here I will do the legwork for you of giving context you lack. deiter69 is making a joke about older posts that VValen has been posting in this thread for a long time now. Here are several examples of VValen constantly saying Subverse is not a porn game, but a game with porn in it. [1][2][3][4]

As for Vanilla's comment, idk how someone's opinion on how they feel about something is misinformation. Is their subjective opinion a false statement of how they feel? Or do you just not like the opinion shared?

me and the boys just ignore kittymaid and you probably should too lol

 

[KittyMaid]

Here I will do the legwork for you of giving context you lack. deiter69 is making a joke about older posts that VValen has been posting in this thread for a long time now. Here are several examples of VValen constantly saying Subverse is not a porn game, but a game with porn in it. [1][2][3][4]

As for Vanilla's comment, idk how someone's opinion on how they feel about something is misinformation. Is their subjective opinion a false statement of how they feel? Or do you just not like the opinion shared?

It's a pointless opinion on something that is already answered. It's like saying "it feels like if this game doesn't have any sex in it" You see how pointless that "opinion" is when it's obvious that it clearly does have sex in it.

 

[KittyMaid]

me and the boys just ignore kittymaid and you probably should too lol

Are you stalking me now? lol

 

[Yojimbo543]

Are you stalking me now? lol

Nobody's stalking you, you've just made a reputation for yourself here too. Time to reap what you've been sowing

 

[bourbon01]

how can i update from 07 -> 08 ?

 

[Deleted member 324588]

how can i update from 07 -> 08 ?

Download it all again, tis the life of a pirate.

 

[KittyMaid]

Nobody's stalking you, you've just made a reputation for yourself here too. Time to reap what you've been sowing

You flatter me UwU

 

[jscott313]

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Wow that dev log...ouch. Where do you start...basically there's no point to even playing the EA versions anymore since the saves will get wiped before the final version and you'll just have to play the game again from scratch.
Not posting the final cinematic for the devotion quests seals that and adds further credence to the above since you have to replay it anyway...kinda silly considering the entire game gets leaked at places like this within a week of launch generally. I don't see eye to eye with the devs on that; seems like they are needlessly inconveniencing the legit customers.

I'm so glad I never bought this game.

 

[Redboi8]

Oh man, this project is the gift that keep on giving, just not in the way you expect it to. Haven't posted here in a long time, but after seeing how retarded this latest dev log was I just couldn't resist.

So basically, all those devotion scenes FOW have been hyping up for the past several years. the ones they said would blow all the stuff in Pandora out of the water, the ones they said would be similar in quality to their previous movies, the ones they asked their backers to wait for before judging the adult content, etc, etc...will now be inaccessible to those very same backers

Let's look at some of the highest rated feedback in the comments on Steam, shall we?

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Sorry for the screenshot spam, but this stuff is just too funny to miss. What happened to FOW, man? They used to be at the top of the adult animation industry, and look at them now. At this point, I think I'll do exactly what the devs don't want me to do and just wait for the complete scenes to be uploaded online once v1.0 is released...supposedly next year lol. As those people on Steam have mentioned, there is absolutely no point in playing Subverse from now until the release, so might as well just sit back and watch how this unfolds in the next year.

Yeah, everytime I think it can't be any worse, SFOW proves that I underestimate their ability to fuck things up...

 

[VanillaLover]

It's like saying "it feels like if this game doesn't have any sex in it" You see how pointless that "opinion" is when it's obvious that it clearly does have sex in it.

But my comment wasn't about that.
I was talking about how FOW treats Subverse as "a game with porn" than "a porn game" and how most people treat it like the latter. They wanted to take it in the former direction, but most people just bought it for the porn, not for the gameplay.

As for the misinformation, I did talk about any false points. FOW said they wanted to make an "actual game".

 

[KittyMaid]

But my comment wasn't about that.
I was talking about how FOW treats Subverse as "a game with porn" than "a porn game" and how most people treat it like the latter. They wanted to take it in the former direction, but most people just bought it for the porn, not for the gameplay.

As for the misinformation, I did talk about any false points. FOW said they wanted to make an "actual game".

yes a game that revolves around porn. Many games don't do either right, so they wanted to break that sigma by delivering a playable game without hurting the porn quality and blending it with comedy. Still don't see how Witcher ties in. It's the gameplay, theme, story, art, are all different. The only thing they share is the genre of being an RPG.