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Tremonia

Queen Lydia's bitch
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It's easy to spot a milker once you have been around for some time.
I don't know. Sure, there are many milkers and it's obviously in most cases. But I think some devs didn't milk, they're just slow because of their real life. I used to create graphics with DAZ for fun and really tried to make them look nice. Just creating a scenery that met my expectations took a whole afternoon. I didn't even calculate the search for the right assets. Then the characters had to be placed and posed. Don't forget the facial expressions. It also took forever until I was satisfied. Of course, you don't have to do this for every single image. I know that. However, for me the biggest work was to create sensible poses and facial expressions and, last but not least, to operate the fictitious camera correctly. Depending on the graphics card, it can take quite a while for the image to be rendered. I had pictures that took my PC an hour or more to render. During rendering, it was no longer possible to work properly in DAZ on my system. So I had to wait until I could continue with the next picture.

All of this takes a lot of time. If you do this in your free time, alongside your full-time job or your studies, it naturally takes what feels like an eternity for an update to be completed. It's no help if pirates demands from devs with 30 patrons hire people to work with them or buy a 4090. Ideally 5 systems with one. Pure programming in Ren'Py, on the other hand, is very fast compared to creating the graphics. You can easily code a few hundred lines of code in a weekend. But that doesn't do you any good if you don't have graphics.
 

Don Flamingo

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Feb 21, 2023
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nah, it should be (at least) double in size.
they have stated it is taking longer because this incoming episode will be twice "bigger" than previous ones.
when it comes we shall se if that is true or not, till that benefit of the doubt would be in order.
I think you are right. The Devs asked us after realeasing Ch4 do we want more content or quicker update and more players said more content. Now Devs have been giving players what most players asked for and a lot of players are now unhappy it is taking so long.

The Devs say they are making twice the content for us and I am sure this is true. They will release the new chapter soon and we will see all the work they have done. Summer Heat Devs seem like great guys and they have nothing to gain leading us along over one update like a few negative posters assume.

Whether negative posters are feeling bad because of other games letting them down. (Understandable to feel bad but don't hold devs mistakes from other games against new Devs who seem to be working hard to make a good, fun game.) Or are casual posters who have no idea what's going on and just spouting/repeating negative things. Or trolls of some sort. As someone who has followed Summer Heat for a long time 90% of these negative posts sound like know nothing hot air.

Summer Heat Devs are new Devs with little time and resources yet they are making very high quality and fun game. They update us every week and give us polls and monthly renders and show us what they're up to. Anyone paying attention can see they are doing a lot of work. I wish every poster would take time to know more about what they're talking about before they talk bad about a game.
 

misfolk

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Jan 22, 2021
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But I think some devs didn't milk, they're just slow because of their real life.
Yeah, some people who complain have never tried to make anything. Even a short story can take tens of hours to write, and writing is something you can do anywhere, anytime, just pull out your notepad or phone and start writing. You have to actually set aside specific time to make a game, and it competes with everything else:

- 8 hours of sleep
- 8 hours of your actual work
- family time
- meals
- chores
- some time for yourself to recharge your batteries

If you're lucky, you can get two hours of work on a weekday. Maybe ten more over the weekend (but that's unsustainable in the long run). Twenty hours a week. How much money is having a second part-time job worth to you? Yes, it's a job you love, but if you can't get a breakthrough that lets you quit your day job and concentrate on making interactive porn, scaling your effort down to 10 hours a week starts looking more and more reasonable, especially when it pays less than a minimum wage.
 

NebulousShooter

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Oct 24, 2018
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Well I don't see milking (yet). They have around 620 patreons meaning they earn roughly 2k (before taxes, in finland 30%-34%). And since they are two: split it.


I don't know, it's going to be hard to live with that amount of money where I live :D
Ignore him, thats his entire personality, come into a game thread and try to start shit.
 
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