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What in the actual flying fuck is going on? I think, "Oh they're arguing about Danica? Aight, I'll wait till they're done."

Only to come back 24 hours later to find y'all STILL.ARGUING.ABOUT.D A N I C A.

So what's the beef necromater, you're always a neutral party, what's the sit?
On god I lost track of the whole thing. I hopped in briefly but fucked off cause tired. Usually this shit peters out after a bit but I'm actually impressed ngl.
 

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Not exactly. We should consider who are this characters are - Alice, Deryl, Michael are characters who combine their super powers with huge military experience and tactics (in Deryl case - his mind) to even the odds against by far suppirior enemies (i mean each of fight they go threw - odd's were not on their side. Still they manage to win or at least give good resistance to the enemy)
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Question is - could they perform something like this here, consider they have information about Danica (at least about her lvl 2 abilities) and have their arsenal of trick (because it is a way how they always fight)

Dont think it possible. She did not have enough experience for this and Michail have top instincts (he consider to be way above MC in this aspect)
Despite how experienced Michael is, he has made mistakes in his fights.

Michael made a blunder against Clone Deryl. He went after him and had to blindly deal with the traps. He got overconfident, had to backtrack, and only survived because he managed to avoid a direct hit. Clone Deryl is barely a superhuman in this fight, even if Michael hasn't unlocked his powers yet.
Michael failed to notice Klaus' truck and got knocked out.
Michael failed to notice that Chimera was regenerating and almost died because of it.
Michael also made an error when he thought that the C4s would be enough to kill the Leigong.

He is a tactical genius and he still makes mistakes. One such mistake, one single overextended step. How likely you think is that he will survive "X marks the spot"?
Danica also makes mistakes, but as I've said, she knows she is squishy and how to create distance. And don't forget that she has worked as an assassin for quite some time. Yes she is an overconfident bitch, but she certainly has some tactical experience and it's made apparent with her instincts in the fight against MC. And that's before considering that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger (losing to MC in this case).

What in the actual flying fuck is going on? I think, "Oh they're arguing about Danica? Aight, I'll wait till they're done."

Only to come back 24 hours later to find y'all STILL.ARGUING.ABOUT.D A N I C A.

So what's the beef necromater, you're always a neutral party, what's the sit?
What can I say, discussions about combat are fun. If you can't beat them.. join them? :p
 
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I like FMC more then his male original form. I hope to see if the dev of the game decid do another timeline with MC as female from the begining with female mc originis. different timeline. Select MC starter gender and it don MC is female form the begining even main charcter become female. it could be cool. But I alweys love Female MC more then Male one. I don't feel nothing about him, he just boring. Alt least female MC can grow a huge dick and fuck others senesless.
Well, it like ask dev to build another game from the scratch and turn scenario into some sort of Frankenstein
This game in sort is simular to Witcher games series - yeh, you have RPG element in them. You can play as your version of Geralt from Rivia, but it still always be Geralt and not some create person or female version of him. My point is - this game is build with pre-structure main protagonist who is male and all his personality\back story\relationships (like his frenemy relationships with Deryl) build on this fact
 
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What in the actual flying fuck is going on? I think, "Oh they're arguing about Danica? Aight, I'll wait till they're done."

Only to come back 24 hours later to find y'all STILL.ARGUING.ABOUT.D A N I C A.

So what's the beef necromater, you're always a neutral party, what's the sit?
Sure neutral party
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They want to prove a lvl 2 can beat a lvl 3 in frontal combat thing that is suicide with weak evidence and a lot of what if. That you have to use what if destroy the Point they even make Drako act mature XD
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Well, it like ask dev to build another game from the scratch and turn scenario into some sort of Frankenstein
This game in sort is simular to Witcher games series - yeh, you have RPG element in them. You can play as your version of Geralt from Rivia, but it still always be Geralt and not some create person or female version of him. My point is - this game is build with pre-structure main protagonist who is male and all his personality\back story\relationships (like his frenemy relationships with Deryl) build on this fact
it not another game same game with different starter gender. You don't know nothing babout select MC gender female or male fit coudl be the same story but the difference is like I sayd before it would be same outcome as well MC could still fuck evyone as her male disguise same only MC would change in all scene when it see him as male. If you say suggesting is a sin then I will sin to wish this game had gender selcot female or male or futa. Suggesting is never wrong. With derryl it could be the same even if MC would be female, they would be the same frindship but timeline FMC would hit like he did in the male orgins. I see nothing wrong with changing MC gender from the begining. FMC could heve the tughest temper, but it wouldn't change nothing.
 

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With derryl it could be the same even if MC would be female, they would be the same frindship but timeline FMC would hit like he did in the male orgins. I see nothing wrong with changing MC gender from the begining. FMC could heve the tughest temper, but it wouldn't change nothing.
You mean Deryl would beat living shit out girl just to show everyone how big asshole he is? Not to mention that Main Hero could not live with Deryl in same room anymore (it was a boy's dorm) so you need to rebuild huge chunk of the game beginning, create new scenes from scratch (in girls dorm for example), write lot new dialogue line to suit new dynamic between characters (for example MC male friends would try flirt with FMC instead and she herself would stay close to Liz and Amber instead of Deryl and company), add some changes in lines that already exist (for example there is no need for Deryl to ask you turn into FMC to join cheerleader group) and protagonist reactions to this (all of this require tons of small changes) - basicly you need to re-write game (because it plot-center game where story, dialogue, and relationship between characters are most important thing = you can just slack of and change "he" on "she" in dialogues
 

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it not another game same game with different starter gender. You don't know nothing babout select MC gender female or male fit coudl be the same story but the difference is like I sayd before it would be same outcome as well MC could still fuck evyone as her male disguise same only MC would change in all scene when it see him as male. If you say suggesting is a sin then I will sin to wish this game had gender selcot female or male or futa. Suggesting is never wrong. With derryl it could be the same even if MC would be female, they would be the same frindship but timeline FMC would hit like he did in the male orgins. I see nothing wrong with changing MC gender from the begining. FMC could heve the tughest temper, but it wouldn't change nothing.
At least in my own personal opinion I find female protagonists to be boring (except Clementine in da Telltale Walking Dead games she's a fucking goat).

The game imo is fine how it is with a male protag and changing his gender would well obviously impact the story that'd require a bit of changing things here and there (not to mention the art for past scenes where we see MC as male) which is kind akin of a whole new route (which Weird, the dev didn't want to do at least while making the main story/game) so it's not 'nothing wrong' the wrong here is that it'd require a number of changes and extra effort that just ain't worth it at this point.

Would be a different story if Weird started out with a gender choice but its too far in Steve and those who like FMC best hope she gets more scenes...which you can do by voting on da patreonz.

Also ultimately I don't see how FMC would be different from the current one...she'd most likely act like how he is now and as you put it 'boring' although you might just find MC as he is now boring just because he's a dude but hey no judgement here.
 
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You mean Deryl would beat living shit out girl just to show everyone how big asshole he is? Not to mention that Main Hero could not live with Deryl in same room anymore (it was a boy's dorm) so you need to rebuild huge chunk of the games beginning, create new scenes from scratch (in girls dorm for example), write lot new dialogue line to suit new dynamic between characters (for example MC male friends would try flirt with FMC instead and she herself would stay close to Liz and Amber instead of Deryl and company), add some changes in lines that already exist (for example there is no need for Deryl to ask you turn into FMC to join cheerleader group) and protagonist reactions to this (all of this require tons of small changes) - basicly you need to re-write game (because it plot-center game where story, dialogue, and relationship between characters are most important thing = you can just slack of and change "he" on "she" in dialogues
It could be even more fan. At least FMC. You didn't get about wall staff of this alternative timeline. It could be more bound FMC could give him the beating as well, even if it end up in same with Deryl as he did to MC I would't change nothing about the past only about presnt day and still deryl would meet FMC alternt ago as Male how it could bee end that same with few jokes You much more fan. Just stick to the story but the place Female would live would female dorm, ther II nothing to say but they would have even much more close relation, since we talking about FMC that I like the most, she could turn her sel into male and hang out with Derry almost sam thing. But don't forget to stick to the story day would alweys had same mamory as they were kids.

It what I mean she could join cherleardand even had strong bond with both redhead and deryl. I would lvove to see it one day if the deve decide to implment itfrom the begining.

With Male MC I didn't use female MC it as joke becus I prefer him as her not as joke.
 

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she could turn her sel into male and hang out with Derry almost sam thing.
Then what's the point of even making a FMC? If she's just going to turn into a dude just to hang out with her homies all the time it just seems like a lot of extra steps just to please one group to have a FMC.

The MC (Male) as he is now has used the FMC quite well aka infiltration/hiding or as a joke but he never really used it just to well...hang with the homies except during the more recent party cause he had to hide his identity from people which is a good enough reason being famous and all ya know but he could of went with any form and it'd achieve the same results (Male MC acts his usual self with or without his male genetics).
 
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At least in my own personal opinion I find female protagonists to be boring (except Clementine in da Telltale Walking Dead games she's a fucking goat).

The game imo is fine how it is with a male protag and changing his gender would well obviously impact the story that'd require a bit of changing things here and there (not to mention the art for past scenes where we see MC as male) which is kind akin of a whole new route (which Weird, the dev didn't want to do at least while making the main story/game) so it's not 'nothing wrong' the wrong here is that it'd require a number of changes and extra effort that just ain't worth it at this point.

Would be a different story if Weird started out with a gender choice but its too far in Steve and those who like FMC best hope she gets more scenes...which you can do by voting on da patreonz.

Also ultimately I don't see how FMC would be different from the current one...she'd most likely act like how he is now and as you put it 'boring' although you might just find MC as he is now boring just because he's a dude but hey no judgement here.
I disagree with you that FMC is boring, saying it look like you saing it would better don't put femaleMC self aperence in game at all. I don't find FMC boring on the countrary I see more perfect more then MC becous I don't see my self in him. I would clrealy had more fun and ton't tall me you don't gonna fuck other girl If the MC origins in starter gender was female, comone we talk about porn here and story. FMC could be have same scen same relations, more fun wth girl while as man cant. he could go with the girl in shower without blow up. That girl who can telport everyone into space or blow ups an enitre building. Female MC could be lack have some sex with her after that scen tow darry and ami devil and angel, that wouldn't happen and we could fuck that girl in the shower without consequences. How it could be boring if MC was female from the begining?
 

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Then what's the point of even making a FMC? If she's just going to turn into a dude just to hang out with her homies all the time it just seems like a lot of extra steps just to please one group to have a FMC.

The MC (Male) as he is now has used the FMC quite well aka infiltration/hiding or as a joke but he never really used it just to well...hang with the homies except during the more recent party cause he had to hide his identity from people which is a good enough reason being famous and all ya know but he could of went with any form and it'd achieve the same results (Male MC acts his usual self with or without his male genetics).
About inritaation hiding I don't use it as joke I choose I like that.

Male MC got into girl shower in the part he saw naked and then gameover MC is dead, oops

Image tha same scene as Female MC she saw an hero into shower and don't get killed and have at least little fun with her and nothing happened. What could be wrong with it.
I se more potential in Female MC then Male one. If I have choise I would take everychance to turn into female and enjoy life not for joking around I never see it as joke.
 

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I disagree with you that FMC is boring, saying it look like you saing it would better don't put femaleMC self aperence in game at all. I don't find FMC boring on the countrary I see more perfect more then MC becous I don't see my self in him. I would clrealy had more fun and ton't tall me you don't gonna fuck other girl If the MC origins in starter gender was female, comone we talk about porn here and story. FMC could be have same scen same relations, more fun wth girl while as man cant. he could go with the girl in shower without blow up. That girl who can telport everyone into space or blow ups an enitre building. Female MC could be lack have some sex with her after that scen tow darry and ami devil and angel, that wouldn't happen and we could fuck that girl in the shower without consequences. How it could be boring if MC was female from the begining?
Now don't put words in my mouth boyo, I don't care about FMC one bit but I never said don't put it in the game at all. I could careless either way since I usually avoid FMC content unless there's a power or skill boost and thats it.

And to keep it real if the protagonist of this game was female at the start I can assure you I wouldn't have touched this game despite how good it is. I haven't played many games that my homies have said are amazing simply because the protagonist is female. It is my preference to play as a male as I connect more to my gender than the opposite. Clementine from telltale's walking dead I only played her simply because the original protag was a male and I found the story good enough to keep it pushing as her and I thoroughly enjoyed her tale.

The scene you mention where MC blows up is simply because its a joke...a bad end to not always be a perv the scene would of just been replaced with a male iteration of Nico (or just female and she doesn't care...it kinda ruins the fun of it there tho).

And to quickly reiterate for you, I, me, Syther, Prophet of Shadow dislikes female protags and therefore I find it boring. The story could be fucking S class gold mah boi and I'd still wouldn't touch it just because female protagonist. It's my preference and no way around it unless the story started off with a male as I established with walking dead game(s).

Anywho your example with the bathroom doesn't really work since that was a joke bad end (unless Weird is gonna change the genders of the cast we have now or whatever else there's a whole lot into this and it just seems like you want a FMC who is more or less the same as we have now just started off Female).
 
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Male MC got into girl shower in the part he saw naked and then gameover MC is dead, oops

Image tha same scene as Female MC she saw an hero into shower and don't get killed and have at least little fun with her and nothing happened. What could be wrong with it.
I se more potential in Female MC then Male one. If I have choise I would take everychance to turn into female and enjoy life not for joking around I never see it as joke.
The example you used wouldn't work mah guy. Nico wouldn't bang FMC off the cuff she isn't Christie and if FMC came onto her she'd just end up like Male MC aka dead.

You'd more or less have to change Nico's personality to fit what you want which again is changing things not keeping them the same as you said prior.

Idk how you believe there is more potential in a female MC, the majority of the cast are females so unless the FMC is going dick girl every interaction with em (or turning into a male which just defeats the point of FMC) then Ima find it to be pretty boring (no offense my lesbian lovin homies it just ain't mah thing).
 

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It could be even more fan. At least FMC
Well, it always about choice we make:
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Creating alternative start for FMC would take a lot of time (at least 3-4 months of re-writing, creating new scenes, establish new relationship dynamic between characters, etc . May by even longer)
or
Dev for same amount of time could give us 3-4 story updates. Give us new yammi and move plot forward
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Question is - what is better and would this worth the efford?
I choose second option
 

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So from what I read a tad of the argument is that Lvl 2 being Michael, could beat Lvl 3 being Danica?

I'll input my own point of view which could or could not be wrong:

Michael probably could beat her IF he actually wanted to. I feel like we are disregarding just how POWERFUL Michael actually is. He's defeated Monsters close to her caliber as a human ALONE. If he truly put his mind to it WITH powers AND at Lvl 2 at that; he'd demolish her.

That all being said we have to acknowledge a simple fact; Danica is a Lvl 3. It's noted that most Lvl 1s & 2s could only hope to beat a Lvl 3 due to the huge leap in ability from the 3rd Evolution (Strengthening Phase).Would Danica beat Michael in a straight on fight? IN MY OPINION it honestly depends on the ENVIRONMENT they fight in (assuming Michael didn't prepare beforehand).

Michael lacks range and Danica excels at distance. So if they fought in an open area Michael wouldn't really stand a chance at all. Michael also lacks regen, he's durable sure but in order to recover from Danica's RIDICULOUS glass cannon power you'd need either an INCREDIBLE defense like Klaus at Lvl 3 (assuming) or ASTRONOMICAL regen ("like the MC"). So:

So how about in an enclosed environment? That's a different story. Danica COULD shoot around and EVISCERATE the surrounding to clear a path but all Michael needs is one chance to get in close by the cover of a tree, car, a wall; and he'll not only bludgeon her with skill, raw power, and technique, but also sap her Superhuman power just from the sheer proximity. If you're going to tell me Danica would be willy nilly in CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT with her RANGED ABILITY don't, it's like bring a .50 Cal to an up close sword fight.

With the following final result, again; this is just my opinion. Overall if I made it sound EASY for Michael to win it wouldn't be; we all know that fucker has some of the toughest fights in the game so Danica wouldn't be a breeze but certainly not the worst thing he's ever faced. Danica would have to do more for me to change my opinion, so far all I have is a Lvl and we all know how just relying on your Lvl went for Gilliard. Michael on the other hand I've WITNESSED him do the damn near impossible so if you really think Danititsmigee is going to kill M i c h a e l if they actually chose to fight, you probably need to reread the game.

+1 Michael - with prep work
+1 Danica - in open field combat
+1 Michael - in a closed combat

Added note: Michael is a direct "spawn" of the 2nd aka Power. I know Danica's monster was terrifying but I'd wager Power incarnate is not only a more terrifying monster, but also power, given who has it (Maniac Michael)
 

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Well, it always about choice we make:
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Creating alternative start for FMC would take a lot of time (at least 3-4 months of re-writing, creating new scenes, establish new relationship dynamic between characters, etc . May by even longer)
or
Dev for same amount of time could give us 3-4 story updates. Give us new yammi and move plot forward
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Question is - what is better and would this worth the efford?
I choose second option
I can wait, even 30 years.
So I choose first option. And can wait the time it take, Becous I like Female MC more then Male one. I rather wait the time it take.
And yes It could worthy the effort.
 
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