Gtdead

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As I said, it is only a vague recollection.
Heart and core are equivalent.
So, you remember them having their hearts drained for a ritual. which seems to conform to my own recollection.
Just putting this out there, it's the bit I got my info from
Aglaecwif said:
Female "As for what her plans are. She is gathering the hearts of powerful monsters like myself, those with a pure and untainted connection to one single lord."
You "Why?"
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Female "She alters and wields them as ritual tools, to channel power and conduct ancient rite, both secret and evil. Too dark for even I to attempt, too unknown for even I to replicate...."
Female "All to call on the most powerful of us, our great sires, the first of our kind. The Apostles."
 

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As I said, it is only a vague recollection.
Heart and core are equivalent.
So, you remember them having their hearts drained for a ritual. which seems to conform to my own recollection.

I don't recall that bit about draining the monsters. Only the bit about their hearts, but that's for the supposed "ritual". Any chance you could point me to the quote?
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Ella said that to Cole when she tell him that she let him go. it's strongly implied.
 

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How good is the game without the walkthrough? I looked at it and the 20 pages kinda gives me the feeling that it might be neccessary in order to really play the game. I don't really wanna have to keep looking through a guide to have a good time with the game though.
 

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How good is the game without the walkthrough? I looked at it and the 20 pages kinda gives me the feeling that it might be neccessary in order to really play the game. I don't really wanna have to keep looking through a guide to have a good time with the game though.
It really depends on your choice, walkthrough is better if you just want to get the scenes quicker or to not make any mistakes at all.
 
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How good is the game without the walkthrough? I looked at it and the 20 pages kinda gives me the feeling that it might be neccessary in order to really play the game. I don't really wanna have to keep looking through a guide to have a good time with the game though.
Its not neccessary, as long as you actually play the game and read you wont have any problems whatsoever.
 
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How good is the game without the walkthrough? I looked at it and the 20 pages kinda gives me the feeling that it might be neccessary in order to really play the game. I don't really wanna have to keep looking through a guide to have a good time with the game though.
Why do you need a walkthrough anyways? The choices are pretty clear cut in my opinion. Sure, you might miss out on some content way later down the road by killing certain characters, but that's insignificant.

There are some bad ends too, but it's not hard to reload at a choice that obviously has consequences. Just save whenever you feel like a choice is important and you'll be fine.

Games like this don't really need a walkthrough if you use common sense
 

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How good is the game without the walkthrough? I looked at it and the 20 pages kinda gives me the feeling that it might be neccessary in order to really play the game. I don't really wanna have to keep looking through a guide to have a good time with the game though.
If you are the type to play even the slice of life games with a walkthrough mod, then yes, it's a good idea to play it with the walkthrough open in the back.

If not, then the golden rule is to always train when you have the option otherwise it's possible to lock your playthrough.
 

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ive been locking myself in the same spot since the original 0.9 came out, at this point i'm just gonna wait for 1.0 (or 0.10) to come out. i'm feeling pretty fucking stupid rn.
 
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ive been locking myself in the same spot since the original 0.9 came out, at this point i'm just gonna wait for 1.0 (or 0.10) to come out. i'm feeling pretty fucking stupid rn.
Same doing it on True bond, although I have a feeling at that point, 5 years later waiting, if I'm still waiting, then I'm officially a porn addict and an idiot, i mean I know I am a little, but this just proves it you know?
 

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Ella said that to Cole when she tell him that she let him go. it's strongly implied.
Thank you.
Yes, in that line Ella very clearly indicates that they lost most of their powers "down there".
Why do you need a walkthrough anyways? The choices are pretty clear cut in my opinion. Sure, you might miss out on some content way later down the road by killing certain characters, but that's insignificant.
Missing out on some content is not insignificant, it is like having an itch you cannot scratch. maddening.
 

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How good is the game without the walkthrough? I looked at it and the 20 pages kinda gives me the feeling that it might be neccessary in order to really play the game. I don't really wanna have to keep looking through a guide to have a good time with the game though.
I bet you'll play it twice minimum with or without walkthrough and feel like a drug addict without a dose afterwards. You can go without a walkthrough but the game has so many details, even some of bad endings shed light on lore, introduce or mention some characters you would otherwise meet much later in the game.

ive been locking myself in the same spot since the original 0.9 came out, at this point i'm just gonna wait for 1.0 (or 0.10) to come out. i'm feeling pretty fucking stupid rn.
Why would you restrict yourself from playing? 1.0 isn't going to be the final update anyway. And each update is like 2-3 hours long, depends on how fast you read.
 

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How good is the game without the walkthrough? I looked at it and the 20 pages kinda gives me the feeling that it might be neccessary in order to really play the game. I don't really wanna have to keep looking through a guide to have a good time with the game though.
If you don't want to read walkthrough, this is what you need to know for a good early game: Make a new save before doing each choice in case you need to go back. Every time the option to train shows up, TRAIN. If the option don't show up, try to do cheerleader route because of skill points (is behind the Find Deryl choice). Everything else is secondary and the game will give you time to do.
 
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Dunno about that. Rina is harmless for Alice and likely go out of commission from Michael's reactive protection. Met's lightning can be deflected by Alice and absorbed by Michael. Key elements for this fight are: how fast Rina will go out of commission (probably as soon as she goes into attack instead of support), how well mafia duo will skirt around controlled charge (if Met's control is good enough to circumvent gravitational deflection and how it interacts with Michael's energy consumption, as in empowers him, but opens for control).
Rina, yeah - she is not an opponent for Alice BUT her teamwork with Met - this is real source of danger here
Met (lvl 3) by himself is the strongest enemy for Alice and Michael. Maybe when they themself become a lvl 3, they could be a good counter to him, but as it is now Alice and Michael are in huge disadvantage.
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Rina make it 10 times worse - i mean, she basicly could make Met invisible and she had good enough skill (i mean as assassin) to build up good teamwork with Met in relatively short period of time
 

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No, i meant saying something about taking this contract due to having actual beef with Michael over this. Simply mentioning is far from it, and it would be rather strange if he wasn't mentioned at all.
Because he can do it during a fight? You know, while beating Michael into the meat beaf
evo 3 mc was scared of evo 2 michael
And still was able to restrict him without killing (which is way harder thing to do)
 
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Because he can do it during a fight? You know, while beating Michael into the meat beaf
Yes, because it makes total sense to pretend it's about nothing personal and only start talking how "acshually i hatez you" in the middle of a fight. Did Met's behavior so far make him seem to you like this sort of irrational person?
 

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Rina, yeah - she is not an opponent for Alice BUT her teamwork with Met - this is real source of danger here
Met (lvl 3) by himself is the strongest enemy for Alice and Michael. Maybe when they themself become a lvl 3, they could be a good counter to him, but as it is now Alice and Michael are in huge disadvantage.
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Rina make it 10 times worse - i mean, she basicly could make Met invisible and she had good enough skill (i mean as assassin) to build up good teamwork with Met in relatively short period of time
She's invisible (and probably silent, but that's likely her professional skills), not intangible. Alice is capable of spamming AOE attacks like it's nothing, that'll take Rina out pretty quick.

Met alone is the biggest challenge for them. Unless Michael or Alice have something super special, this is a losing battle for them. Which will involve a ton of Aldains as a cannon fodder to cover their retreat.
 
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