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I need to talk to Jacop, Leonor and Sandra
I aldready did Jacop and Leo but Sandra doesnt function
when you have time pass me the save so I can check the failure, (right now I can't check it, but as soon as I can, I'll see if there is a bug).
 

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The build is complicated, I already do it this way, now I put more dialogues where the kinship is named without any blushes.
If I make another game where incest is very present, I will see that option so that the player can change roles!
no. I just request you to include rpy as well as rpyc. That's all. I understand my suggestion about incest code is complicated
 
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no. I just request you to include rpy as well as rpyc. That's all. I understand my suggestion about incest code is complicated
By default I have already programmed it to "pack everything", so that the folders do not walk around with all the content "in the air".
It's a pity that Unren doesn't work for you, because it removes everything and leaves the files free.
In the future, I calculate that I can leave a choice of "names" that you can fill with the kinship and by default, I leave it with the names of the characters, so when referring to them if you edit it, it would come out , mom, sister, etc.
That occurred to me recently to try, although for another dark incestuous VN (I already have plans for another spinoff) it will be necessary to see if I can get someone for the renders or 2d (very difficult if I have no money for it, unless it is by patreon and risk splitting the profits ... which I almost don't have!)
Currently the plans are:
*Finish Love MorteM
*Finish The Blueprint RequieM_.
-See about pausing patreon again and dedicate my time to something else.
*Come back with the sequel to Love MorteM (more mechanics, less NSFW more hate!)
*Try to make a more "incestuous/dark" spinoff.
So myself, I see myself in a bad future in that sense.
 

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Currently the plans are:
*Finish Love MorteM
*Finish The Blueprint RequieM_.
-See about pausing patreon again and dedicate my time to something else.
*Come back with the sequel to Love MorteM (more mechanics, less NSFW more hate!)
*Try to make a more "incestuous/dark" spinoff.
So myself, I see myself in a bad future in that sense.
Oof, thanks for this info, saves me time to write a whole block of text. :LUL:
I just found this game through the backlash/drama in your other game. So I thought at least I shall try this one out since this seemed it has far less plot holes.
Despite I dont like NTR stuff I wanted to try THIS one out but when I see that even the dev. dont really care much about this game I dont think its worth to even try it since I dont even know if it will be worth in the end.

I dont want to sound supercilious, but why would you see yourself bad in the future ?
I mean you said you have already your own little fan base (native speaking one).
And if you realised that the most backlash comes from NSFW content, perhaps its like you said a good idea to really drop it and focus on complete story ?
I think a big drama point in the other game was that MC wife cheated on him and it was shown but it didnt made sense for the story. (From a logical standpoint for her cheating and MC behaviour towards her).
Here your mom fucks another dude what pissed peope off too.
Like I said, not to sound supercilious, but perhaps creating NSFW content isnt a thing for you ?

I read Light Novels (SFW) and I also had the privilege to talk with them who had similar problems when they wanted to push NSFW content into it which brought more problem to even ruined their story in the long run.
 

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Oof, thanks for this info, saves me time to write a whole block of text. :LUL:
I just found this game through the backlash/drama in your other game. So I thought at least I shall try this one out since this seemed it has far less plot holes.
Despite I dont like NTR stuff I wanted to try THIS one out but when I see that even the dev. dont really care much about this game I dont think its worth to even try it since I dont even know if it will be worth in the end.

I dont want to sound supercilious, but why would you see yourself bad in the future ?
I mean you said you have already your own little fan base (native speaking one).
And if you realised that the most backlash comes from NSFW content, perhaps its like you said a good idea to really drop it and focus on complete story ?
I think a big drama point in the other game was that MC wife cheated on him and it was shown but it didnt made sense for the story. (From a logical standpoint for her cheating and MC behaviour towards her).
Here your mom fucks another dude what pissed peope off too.
Like I said, not to sound supercilious, but perhaps creating NSFW content isnt a thing for you ?

I read Light Novels (SFW) and I also had the privilege to talk with them who had similar problems when they wanted to push NSFW content into it which brought more problem to even ruined their story in the long run.
Sorry, but the wall of text was for someone I was interested in what I do, (if you see, it's a reply to something earlier from another user, it's not "general info").
Otherwise it's hardly interesting to someone what I do or don't do, is it?

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Well I understand that you have played the prologue and you have noticed the change not only in Laura's attitude (the mother) but also in her clothing, something that is emphasized and very noticeable in Yannina and that is vital for the plot.
I guess if you played LM (I don't know how far you got) you know what Dhalia is (considering it's a spinoff / prequel) and that in LM she talks about the rewriting of the original timeline and that TBR reinforces that concept by showing you how Dhalia was being described.
If you got far into LM you know who Father Sixthus is and you will notice that in TBR they talk about "The Sixthurian Church".

Concepts such as The Veil of Shadows, The Eternal Sunset? Well, they are vital, in fact, in both are named The Society of the Eternal Sunset, Amberlyn and The Black Rose Club.
When you start LM there is a lot of talk about Awakening Club, in TBR it is the beginning of the Awakening Club.
(Also Sandra Sullivan is Elena Sullivan's cousin from LM and that's why they talk about New Dawn).

I mean, it makes sense, but it demands a lot of the reader's attention, and I guess the translation doesn't help.

-Like I said, not to sound supercilious, but perhaps creating NSFW content isnt a thing for you ?-

Probably yes, but, would you stop making art just because you are not accepted in the media or popular?
Especially if it is not your source of income either?


I have been with these two VNs for less than a year and they have at least passed 10k downloads, not counting pirated pages or F95 itself, which I have no idea.
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"Being me", bad as it is bad, for an artist is very good, without copying formulas, without ducking his head and being the most condescending.
That yes, hate, troll, mistakes, people who do not understand what it is about but say "plot hole" when there are details even in the main menu (in the case of LM) that disprove it (Case Glitch Salamaca and the androids).
It is the only reward!

-Want to play a different kind of NSFW game?
Then go to your trusted Dev!


The point is, if you apply that philosophy, that "you should only do something if you are good at it", then, even if you take it as valid.
You're going to use meritocracy for that? let's go NSFW, I'm going to tell you a "secret"... Many reviews and stars are edited right here, that is to say, I, with the right contacts, these same VN that you can criticize from the judge's bench, could be one of the "untouchable" ones.
On the contrary, I have seen very good VN that here are underrated by criteria that are too dubious.

But without leaving the point; I do it because I want to and I feel like sharing, not because I am necessarily good at it (of course!).


Be happy! you don't like game, well then! I mean, I understand LM, but if you already "know" me (oh yes, this dev does such and such that I don't like and it's really bad), you already see negative reviews, so downloading it is already masochistic!

p/d: this testament was meant for you!
 

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Sorry, but the wall of text was for someone I was interested in what I do, (if you see, it's a reply to something earlier from another user, it's not "general info").
Otherwise it's hardly interesting to someone what I do or don't do, is it?

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Well I understand that you have played the prologue and you have noticed the change not only in Laura's attitude (the mother) but also in her clothing, something that is emphasized and very noticeable in Yannina and that is vital for the plot.
I guess if you played LM (I don't know how far you got) you know what Dhalia is (considering it's a spinoff / prequel) and that in LM she talks about the rewriting of the original timeline and that TBR reinforces that concept by showing you how Dhalia was being described.
If you got far into LM you know who Father Sixthus is and you will notice that in TBR they talk about "The Sixthurian Church".

Concepts such as The Veil of Shadows, The Eternal Sunset? Well, they are vital, in fact, in both are named The Society of the Eternal Sunset, Amberlyn and The Black Rose Club.
When you start LM there is a lot of talk about Awakening Club, in TBR it is the beginning of the Awakening Club.
(Also Sandra Sullivan is Elena Sullivan's cousin from LM and that's why they talk about New Dawn).

I mean, it makes sense, but it demands a lot of the reader's attention, and I guess the translation doesn't help.

-Like I said, not to sound supercilious, but perhaps creating NSFW content isnt a thing for you ?-

Probably yes, but, would you stop making art just because you are not accepted in the media or popular?
Especially if it is not your source of income either?


I have been with these two VNs for less than a year and they have at least passed 10k downloads, not counting pirated pages or F95 itself, which I have no idea.
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"Being me", bad as it is bad, for an artist is very good, without copying formulas, without ducking his head and being the most condescending.
That yes, hate, troll, mistakes, people who do not understand what it is about but say "plot hole" when there are details even in the main menu (in the case of LM) that disprove it (Case Glitch Salamaca and the androids).
It is the only reward!

-Want to play a different kind of NSFW game?
Then go to your trusted Dev!


The point is, if you apply that philosophy, that "you should only do something if you are good at it", then, even if you take it as valid.
You're going to use meritocracy for that? let's go NSFW, I'm going to tell you a "secret"... Many reviews and stars are edited right here, that is to say, I, with the right contacts, these same VN that you can criticize from the judge's bench, could be one of the "untouchable" ones.
On the contrary, I have seen very good VN that here are underrated by criteria that are too dubious.

But without leaving the point; I do it because I want to and I feel like sharing, not because I am necessarily good at it (of course!).


Be happy! you don't like game, well then! I mean, I understand LM, but if you already "know" me (oh yes, this dev does such and such that I don't like and it's really bad), you already see negative reviews, so downloading it is already masochistic!

p/d: this testament was meant for you!
No mate, your translator is translating wrong. When I said "saves me time to write a whole block of text." I was talking about me writing a bunch of text before I saw your post.

Its nice of you to describe me some of your plot but there is no need for it since I didnt asked for it.
You mentioned much from the other game but I dont see the reason to expend this whole debate further on this thread.
I mean I get where you stand. You as the writer you know everything about the story, but not the readers. And like you also mentioned, many had problems to follow it for many and different reasons.
Sure, it may be that the english translation is not correct but from the comments I saw it was more like you didnt planned the story through and the explanation was kinda rushed and we have to deal with it.

My concerns are more in THIS game, not the other one.
What I needed to know if its worth in the end because for me and most others thats where the concerns are:
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And the fact that your mom is already banging other dude is already a turn off since you cant avoid this from the beginning. Thats why I said if this whole ride is worth in the end.

I dont know if you should stop creating art if the majority dont like it. It depens on different factors, but you saw with your own eyes that there is much more hate and not much support of it.
Thats why I got this feeling that you kinda want to create such stuff but dosent succeed in the way you want to. And perhaps these NSFW scenes ruin your story in the long run.
The reason you put this game on public is because you want to share it and thats why you also mention many times that this games dont bring you much money. People arnt that stupid here, there is no need to talk around the topic.

I mean take me for a example. I like the concept of THIS game about a sex cult, but its a instand NO from my part when I see LI banging other dudes. I think we both know that many others sees that way. However, I can to some point disgest such stuff if its worth in the end, which Im not sure for this game since the Developer Notes and Tags arnt clear about it.

I dont know if you see yourself and your games to be successful. I dont know if 10k downloads are good or not but downloading a game dosent mean people liked it, let alone even played it.
I started to play Porn Games this mid year again and I got like 750 - 800 games and I only played like 100 of them. I even download games who has content in it I despite only to see if the rage was justified, like your game for example.

And whats with the "Then go to your trusted Dev!" ?
Trust me, if Caribdis could create games day after day with a bunch of updates, I wouldnt look for other games.
I dont even know why you even said that because this such a childish response because people go look for other games when they are finished with the previous one.
With your logic there wouldnt be even a single person here since they would stick to their trusted dev...

And once again, your Translator is translating wrong. I dont get how you jump to conclusion about meritocracy.
And what is this with this "untouchable ones" ?
I hope Im mistaked here and your translation is wrong, otherwise I get this suspected you accuse people here of some hidden cabal who are conspiring against your game ? :WaitWhat:

I get that your are being touchy when it comes to criticism about stuff you made, eveyone feels like that.
But lets keep it civil.
 

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No mate, your translator is translating wrong. When I said "saves me time to write a whole block of text." I was talking about me writing a bunch of text before I saw your post.

Its nice of you to describe me some of your plot but there is no need for it since I didnt asked for it.
You mentioned much from the other game but I dont see the reason to expend this whole debate further on this thread.
I mean I get where you stand. You as the writer you know everything about the story, but not the readers. And like you also mentioned, many had problems to follow it for many and different reasons.
Sure, it may be that the english translation is not correct but from the comments I saw it was more like you didnt planned the story through and the explanation was kinda rushed and we have to deal with it.

My concerns are more in THIS game, not the other one.
What I needed to know if its worth in the end because for me and most others thats where the concerns are:
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And the fact that your mom is already banging other dude is already a turn off since you cant avoid this from the beginning. Thats why I said if this whole ride is worth in the end.

I dont know if you should stop creating art if the majority dont like it. It depens on different factors, but you saw with your own eyes that there is much more hate and not much support of it.
Thats why I got this feeling that you kinda want to create such stuff but dosent succeed in the way you want to. And perhaps these NSFW scenes ruin your story in the long run.
The reason you put this game on public is because you want to share it and thats why you also mention many times that this games dont bring you much money. People arnt that stupid here, there is no need to talk around the topic.

I mean take me for a example. I like the concept of THIS game about a sex cult, but its a instand NO from my part when I see LI banging other dudes. I think we both know that many others sees that way. However, I can to some point disgest such stuff if its worth in the end, which Im not sure for this game since the Developer Notes and Tags arnt clear about it.

I dont know if you see yourself and your games to be successful. I dont know if 10k downloads are good or not but downloading a game dosent mean people liked it, let alone even played it.
I started to play Porn Games this mid year again and I got like 750 - 800 games and I only played like 100 of them. I even download games who has content in it I despite only to see if the rage was justified, like your game for example.

And whats with the "Then go to your trusted Dev!" ?
Trust me, if Caribdis could create games day after day with a bunch of updates, I wouldnt look for other games.
I dont even know why you even said that because this such a childish response because people go look for other games when they are finished with the previous one.
With your logic there wouldnt be even a single person here since they would stick to their trusted dev...

And once again, your Translator is translating wrong. I dont get how you jump to conclusion about meritocracy.
And what is this with this "untouchable ones" ?
I hope Im mistaked here and your translation is wrong, otherwise I get this suspected you accuse people here of some hidden cabal who are conspiring against your game ? :WaitWhat:

I get that your are being touchy when it comes to criticism about stuff you made, eveyone feels like that.
But lets keep it civil.
Dude, I'm not talking about my game, I'm talking to other devs... because of the "meritocracy" thing, did you know that many of them start with patreon and that many of those you adore even have their renders made by others?
There is a lot of info that you don't know, that you wouldn't "have to know" if you don't seem to think you are some kind of expert or judge of NSFW games.
Over 11,300 downloads, for my "terrible games", tips the scales more than they come back, because it's not a game that no one knows about but it's sponsored by X Dev, so they download it because "it must be good and new".
I still have terrible news for you, I don't know how you will take it....
Well I finished V0.9 of LM, so after it goes public I will surely upload it to F95.
I know, I know, it's a terrible day for the NV NSFW world, you can go cry at the wailing wall.
Go in peace and thanks for enlightening me, I will consider your proposition to stop doing this, which I like, just because you don't like it.
Even if you're lucky I'll delete version 0.9! who tells you...
 

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Dude, I'm not talking about my game, I'm talking to other devs... because of the "meritocracy" thing, did you know that many of them start with patreon and that many of those you adore even have their renders made by others?
There is a lot of info that you don't know, that you wouldn't "have to know" if you don't seem to think you are some kind of expert or judge of NSFW games.
I guess you mix reality with your fantasy world now. I dont know if you have/had beef with some other devs. (If I see how you behave with others I have no doubt lol.) but what does patreon have anything to do with meritocracy ?
And where is the problem working, well, I dont know, as a team ? If he, the dev, got the money, why shouldnt he pay others to do other stuff he cant ? I mean thats how the whole world runs. And what do you mean I dont know "lot of info" ?
Do I need to know what they eat for dinner ? Who they voted for ? What hair colour they got ?
Im a customer looking for a porn game, all I need to know is about the end product I shall receive.
And to this day where I support them financially I never had any doubts or problems about them. Everything I need I got answeard not unlike you who keep avoiding my questions and behaves more and more like a child. Perhaps thats one of the reasons your not that popular like the others. But what does I know, right ?

I mean it seems you are high or full of rage because your translator translated something different becaue I didnt said your game is terrible nor I said I will get angry when you continue with your other game. :WaitWhat:
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All I said is that you self mentioned to drop the NSFW content and focus more on the SFW. Read the comments again before you get triggered.

I think you a bit paranoid. People download games when they think they will like it. Sure, it helps when you get some background info like who is the dev and what are his other works. Perhaps some tags gets you more info. But in the end people download it to try it out and you gonna tell me every one loved it. Everyone ?
If yes then you need to go out and touch some grass.

You yourself said over 11.3 k people downloaded your game. So be honest with yourself for a second. What do you think how many people liked it in the end ?
I mean your kinda behave passive aggressive towards people who criticise your game in the slightest shows me you yourself know that this "work of art" gets more hate then support and you cant handle it. Acting like a proper grown up...

But yeah, cope more. Keep brushing away potential fans and supporters and wondering why there is no financial gain and how "trolls" ruin everything. (y)
 

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I guess you mix reality with your fantasy world now. I dont know if you have/had beef with some other devs. (If I see how you behave with others I have no doubt lol.) but what does patreon have anything to do with meritocracy ?
And where is the problem working, well, I dont know, as a team ? If he, the dev, got the money, why shouldnt he pay others to do other stuff he cant ? I mean thats how the whole world runs. And what do you mean I dont know "lot of info" ?
Do I need to know what they eat for dinner ? Who they voted for ? What hair colour they got ?
Im a customer looking for a porn game, all I need to know is about the end product I shall receive.
And to this day where I support them financially I never had any doubts or problems about them. Everything I need I got answeard not unlike you who keep avoiding my questions and behaves more and more like a child. Perhaps thats one of the reasons your not that popular like the others. But what does I know, right ?

I mean it seems you are high or full of rage because your translator translated something different becaue I didnt said your game is terrible nor I said I will get angry when you continue with your other game. :WaitWhat:
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All I said is that you self mentioned to drop the NSFW content and focus more on the SFW. Read the comments again before you get triggered.

I think you a bit paranoid. People download games when they think they will like it. Sure, it helps when you get some background info like who is the dev and what are his other works. Perhaps some tags gets you more info. But in the end people download it to try it out and you gonna tell me every one loved it. Everyone ?
If yes then you need to go out and touch some grass.

You yourself said over 11.3 k people downloaded your game. So be honest with yourself for a second. What do you think how many people liked it in the end ?
I mean your kinda behave passive aggressive towards people who criticise your game in the slightest shows me you yourself know that this "work of art" gets more hate then support and you cant handle it. Acting like a proper grown up...

But yeah, cope more. Keep brushing away potential fans and supporters and wondering why there is no financial gain and how "trolls" ruin everything. (y)
Man... Be happy, seriously!
Hostage your favorite Dev to get him to update faster!
Maybe that will keep you more busy, unfortunately it's not like me, I recently updated this one, now I'm going to update LM, and I'm already working on the next TBR (even though as you read, I don't earn with this and I have another job).
But I like to create and share!
Greetings!
 

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the game,its not perfect yeah,writing is a bit off,i dont care about the render either cuz i played MNL.the one thing i should add tho is maybe,you(dev) should make it to RenpyVn rather than RenpyRPGM,other than that,its good,i like it.i dont shiit on the devs plate,like others.
 
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the game,its not perfect yeah,writing is a bit off,i dont care about the render either cuz i played MNL.the one thing i should add tho is maybe,you(dev) should make it to RenpyVn rather than RenpyRPGM,other than that,its good,i like it.i dont shiit on the devs plate,like others.
The process was a little bumpy, since it was for a Jam and it had to contain certain elements and a fixed time frame.
I took advantage of that also to experiment with those rpgmaker assets I had bought, originally it was going to be for rpg, but it wasn't going to get there in time (because of the programming interior, I don't perform as repnpy).
but that hybrid part, point and click, is only the first part of the game, then it goes to something linear (in fact all the updates are in the plan).
 

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I feel like I've been conned. This is an RPGM game posing as a Ren'Py one. I despise most RPGM games, so tend to avoid them in general.
And for that reason, I'm out.
Good luck.