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Tlaero

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No idea why it's tagged for that, it has no animations.
There were definitely a few animations in LCfK, but not many. I think that's the last game we did that had any, though. Mortze doesn't like the quality of the animations, and I defer to him on all things visual.

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Grosconnard

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heh, too true.

Wish they would just split this tag in particular since they are two different things. Same with like adding a tag for freeroam, so basic freeroam games aren't tied into the sandbox category. At least point and click got a separate category for it. Won't even go into that "one tag" that causes so much toxic discussion on these boards...

But yeah, agreed. A lot of the tags here are misused and need work.
Yeah the tags on f95 are pretty badly used since they're always open to everyone's interpretation (especially with the toxic cursed tag you rightly mentioned ) and it seems pretty arbitrary in terms of what is acceptable as tags.
Some of us have been asking for a hairy or pubic hair tag for ages without ever getting any acknowledgement of the request from the mods.... Granted pubic hair can have many variations too for people who are into this fetish just like the distinction between pre-op and post-op trans but still I would like to be able to find a game with my favourite kink without having to download it to find out if it has any of it or try to look for a bit of bush on the screenshots...
 

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Tags are an interesting problem. Some people use them to protect themselves from seeing things they don't want to see, and some people use them to find things they do want to see. That in of itself causes problems, but it goes deeper. Say you don't want to see lesbians and Toro 7 has lesbians, so you don't download it. But you can play the game as a straight male and never see lesbians. The tag didn't really work in that situation. Or, what if you see a tag for something you want, so you download the game, only to find that there's only one scene with that thing. The tag didn't really work in that situation either.

I don't know what the solution is. (Though, I'd really like to separate Trans and Futa :) )

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Avaron1974

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Not a slip up. I specifically put Aisha in the day one showers so that people could see that she's Trans, not Futa. Those two things are not at all the same. I wish the tag didn't put them together.

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I think what throws some people off with full trans is there are some games, plus porn in general, that shows transwomen that have only head their breasts done, they still have their penis.

There is a really good trans game on here, Shattered, that deals with it quite well. It has a number of transwomen and the MC himself is borderline, he's a femboy but hasn't fully gone over.

The issue there being when people now see the trans tag they are expecting pre op not post op.

You get to tread new ground and show a fully transitioned trans woman. It's likely something a few on here may not have seen before.
 

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I think what throws some people off with full trans is there are some games, plus porn in general, that shows transwomen that have only head their breasts done, they still have their penis.

There is a really good trans game on here, Shattered, that deals with it quite well. It has a number of transwomen and the MC himself is borderline, he's a femboy but hasn't fully gone over.

The issue there being when people now see the trans tag they are expecting pre op not post op.

You get to tread new ground and show a fully transitioned trans woman. It's likely something a few on here may not have seen before.
Right. Some people have no intention of having surgery on their genitalia. They have cosmetic surgery to appear as the gender of their choice, and stop there. They aren't trans because they have no intention to become "post op". The common term for those born as men who have cosmetic surgery to appear as a woman is shemale, but the PC folks among us have decided that is offensive.

Ideally there'd be three tags. Futa - both sets of genitalia. Pre-op trans and Post-op trans which are self explanatory. The odds of that happening are slim and none, and slim has left the building.
 

UncleFredo

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That's factually wrong tho. They are still trans regardless how far they transition, because transgender literally means "a person whose gender identity differs from their sex".
Okay. I've no problem with that. That just means that the term trans, is insufficient to discriminate between the various differences among that community. It would be helpful to provide terminology that better identifies those differences.
 
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Grosconnard

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Tags are an interesting problem. Some people use them to protect themselves from seeing things they don't want to see, and some people use them to find things they do want to see. That in of itself causes problems, but it goes deeper. Say you don't want to see lesbians and Toro 7 has lesbians, so you don't download it. But you can play the game as a straight male and never see lesbians. The tag didn't really work in that situation. Or, what if you see a tag for something you want, so you download the game, only to find that there's only one scene with that thing. The tag didn't really work in that situation either.

I don't know what the solution is. (Though, I'd really like to separate Trans and Futa :) )

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That's indeed an interesting problem. And one could argue that futa (a woman with both male and female genitalia in the true Japanese meaning), pre-op trans (only a penis) and post-op trans (only a vagina) are three different things and therefore would need three separate tags.

To be truthful I very rarely use the tags on this website but I would find them useful for the particular kink I mentioned. But I know that adding a "hairy" or "bush" tag would still remain pretty vague as not everyone has the same conception of a bush (a tiny strip of hair in the pubic area is not a bush in my opinion haha), but it would at least allow me to weed out several games that wouldn't get my interest otherwise...

And I won't lie one of the first things that initially drew me to your games was that Mortze's amazing art beautifully caters to my fetish :D.
 
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This is a really impressive project! Renders look great, characters look plausibly human, writing isn't full of typos (Don't think I noticed even one), there appears to be so some knowledge or research of the subject matter and most importantly, its actually pleasant to read. I almost regret playing it now because I'm not gonna like waiting for more of it :giggle:



One tiny criticism: The little video parts at the start and between intro and chapter one are very loud
 

Tlaero

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This is a really impressive project! Renders look great, characters look plausibly human, writing isn't full of typos (Don't think I noticed even one), there appears to be so some knowledge or research of the subject matter and most importantly, its actually pleasant to read. I almost regret playing it now because I'm not gonna like waiting for more of it :giggle:
Thank you! If you're interested in more games by us that you won't need to wait for, a good place to start is with the Omnibus.
https://f95zone.to/threads/elsaverse-omnibus-vol-1-tora-productions.90315/

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maybe i missed something, need help for combination
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Oh my god that's what i was fearing, a game where you have to visit every place again and again in order to get to good event or meet the right person at the right moment.
I'm in front of the map screen and i already have a headache!! :oops:
Not in the mood to play hide and seek, maybe one day !!
 

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Sex scene between Kim and Johan was really hot, imo hotter than the male mc sex scene. Well done devs (y).

Am really confused about Aisha though. Is she post op or something?
 
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