Yasuo Reynald

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If someone cheat with the MC, it's Netori ( in theory is still NTR, because it's include Netorare, Netori and Netorase, so it's a bit confusing) so in a way it's NTR but not the one everyone is accustom to.

Netori = When the MC steal someone.
 

Tremonia

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If someone cheat with the MC, it's Netori ( in theory is still NTR, because it's include Netorare, Netori and Netorase, so it's a bit confusing) so in a way it's NTR but not the one everyone is accustom to.

Netori = When the MC steal someone.
Who cares? If a person is not in a relationship with another person both can do what they want with whom they want. And if they are in a relationship they can also do what they want because .

I'll never get to understand this NTR thingy. It feels like everything is NTR to some people. "Oh, there was this one sexy girl in the background in one picture kissing a guy. I don't know her. She was never seen before. She's never seen again. But I got a boner from her. This kiss is NTR!"
 

johnyakuza1

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Who cares? If a person is not in a relationship with another person both can do what they want with whom they want. And if they are in a relationship they can also do what they want because .

I'll never get to understand this NTR thingy. It feels like everything is NTR to some people. "Oh, there was this one sexy girl in the background in one picture kissing a guy. I don't know her. She was never seen before. She's never seen again. But I got a boner from her. This kiss is NTR!"
Hahah yeah I don't mind other characters getting fucked.. Even in this game, minami was never going to be a choice for me so seeing her getting fucked in the train while MC watched was fine because it was a revenge plot to put her in her place. NTR's meaning has diluted a lot i think.
 

Yasuo Reynald

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Who cares? If a person is not in a relationship with another person both can do what they want with whom they want. And if they are in a relationship they can also do what they want because .

I'll never get to understand this NTR thingy. It feels like everything is NTR to some people. "Oh, there was this one sexy girl in the background in one picture kissing a guy. I don't know her. She was never seen before. She's never seen again. But I got a boner from her. This kiss is NTR!"

I was only explaining a concept. I'm the first not liking Netorare. Anyways Netorare is way more complex thant that. It isn't just : someone kissed someone else, they aren't affilated with MC and boom NTR. No, a Love interest of the MC get corrupted/blackmail or something along those line by someone else other than the MC, there we got Netorare. If the MC does the corruption/blackmailing, it's netori. Simple as that.

And no, everything isn't NTR for someone. Those who over-exagerate often they just troll or are stupid.

And don't let me started about the fact that we're talking about fictional character that hold no human right or are albeit by any law ( except some around making pornographic material).

I'm not saying that in a discriminatory way, just explaining that this character by being fictional, they're outside our society and reality.
 

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And no, everything isn't NTR for someone.
Well, let's read more on F95. There's so much whining about NTR and every time you ask you get another definition what NTR is. Ask ten people, get 27 definitions. The anti-NTR-brigade contains some really fragile dudes. Sometimes it's funny to read, sometimes it's just annoying like the 1312nd waifu war in a thread. But one thing I've learned: you'll ever have one dude who's complaining about NTR. Even if it's about Pac Man.
 

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So the normal NTR doesn't presuppose a relationship between romance or the same, so it's also not about that anyone, anyone, whom is much more about the inconstant appearance in almost every if not in every unsatisfactory area. Much as auhc assume that the NTR is fraudulent or that the range presupposes or that it is an important part of it, but it is not. it's much more about the moral change of a person who is influenced by one or more people so that NTR can and will be laid out on a large scale.
An NTR story must be the person but right from the start sexually immortal appearance and live it out but secretly I think the secret is the exensilt part in the NTR, is an outwardly idol or innocence lame that either sexul is seduced in the background or a slut who is morally sinful in front of friends and family or innocent or the same.
 
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xZecretX

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I am just throwing it into the discussion, but the NTR tag got renamed to netorare at some point to further clarify what it stands for. The description for the tag as well as others can be viewed in the Tags Rules And List.

So if that tag's description does not satisfy the criteria of a person asking about NTR then they need to be more precise when asking a question about it, e.g. if they don't want to see anyone being involved with any other person with the same sex as the MC then they need to ask exactly that and not about NTR or else they could get mixed answers. For example sharing is not covered by the tags and would apply here.

That said, even if you exclude Minami's train scene (the variant where it is not about revenge) there are still some instances which could classify as netorare like Kaori's bench scene or the new Honeybee scene with Sheila, even if they don't lead to intercourse, otherwise "involved" would have to be further clarified. It also depends on the next update, I think for this version we were given mostly correct answer choices for the Honeybee event but if I recall correctly there should be planned bad ends as well, unless they remain unavailable or exclude Sheila or are not even shown.
 

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None of them cheats to MC.
  • Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]
No mention that this has to be done to the MC, and it stands to reason, for a lot of people play these for the fantasy of having someone else's wife, cheat on their husband with the character they are 'playing as', so yes, the tag is very well deserved.

...and stop. There you got it.
  • Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
Is not clear if it's meant to cause jealousy in the MC or the Player, but most NTR works focus on the Player (cuz what's the point of messing with the MC when you don't care about him).
And please note, it only says involved, this could go from a simple kiss behind the MC's back to full-blown orgies at the expense of the MC, because NTR has always been about the relationship itself, not the sexuality of it.
So for some, in a game where the fantasy you're been sold is that every single girl you come across will end up being only yours, having someone else getting a go with the Love Interests in any way, regardless of the circumstances, will be detrimental to a story you're trying to enjoy.

Who cares? If a person is not in a relationship with another person both can do what they want with whom they want. And if they are in a relationship they can also do what they want because .
We don't play these things for the legality, ethicality, or reality of the depicted situations, it's a fantasy.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying the complaints of a work having or not NTR are justified or valid, but just as the devs have any right to put whatever kind of content they want into their products, a potential player has the right to know if it contains things that would otherwise prevent them from enjoying the experience, as well as voice their opinion or criticism of it, and neither the Dev or the other players have to agree to it; just ignore it, and be done with it.
 
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Yasuo Reynald

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Well, let's read more on F95. There's so much whining about NTR and every time you ask you get another definition what NTR is. Ask ten people, get 27 definitions. The anti-NTR-brigade contains some really fragile dudes. Sometimes it's funny to read, sometimes it's just annoying like the 1312nd waifu war in a thread. But one thing I've learned: you'll ever have one dude who's complaining about NTR. Even if it's about Pac Man.

"The Anti-NTR-Brigade" ? Don't make me laugh pls. Fragile dudes? How ? Just because someone doesn't like that "Alpha Male" kink, automatically they're fragiles? If someone raise some valid critism ( either for or against NTR) i don't see the problem of it existing.

About complaining, honestly most of the game i play and follow doesn't have NTR or at least is avoidable, so i hear more about complaining about the lack of NTR than the contrary.

Honestly at this point, i'm leaning more on the side of you trolling hard. Because we may have given varition of the Netorare definiton but the gist of it remain the same. MC get cheated on by someone else, it's distress in him ( if aware) and basically it's glorified adultery.
 

DarkDaemonX

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Is it worth it to play right now, or is it better to wait until the game is completed, however many years that will take?
 
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DarkDaemonX

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It's worth to get you frustate that it didn't get update :ROFLMAO:
As I thought, I ran into too many moments where even the features were unfinished, so I deleted the game and will be back if it ever gets finished, the version number makes it look like the game is almost completed, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
 

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As I thought, I ran into too many moments where even the features were unfinished, so I deleted the game and will be back if it ever gets finished, the version number makes it look like the game is almost completed, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
Never trust versioning on anything, it depends on the developer what it means, it could very well be that we'll end up going all the way to 0.1000.99.abc and still be less than halfway through.
 

DarkDaemonX

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Never trust versioning on anything, it depends on the developer what it means, it could very well be that we'll end up going all the way to 0.1000.99.abc and still be less than halfway through.
Guess it's better to just forget about the game for now then.
 
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Zuhl

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Does it have NTR?

aslo with every tred m panner is actually everyone or almost everyone likes what's in it and basically NTR is great extensively and almost everything is mainly in secret.



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