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kurosx

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Well, if you fire up your Steam and search for "Summer´s gone", it should pop up. It did for me and I have it bookmarked for when it comes out on Sream.
I haven't played that, so I haven't searched for it on Steam. So, time will tell if this game will be available on Steam for us.
 

Turret

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SG can be bought in Germany since there isn't any sexy times :WeSmart:
I think WiAB will unfortunately not be available in Germany. Summer's Gone season 2 either :BootyTime:
The main problem are not the "sexy times", but Steam´s shoddy work in how age ratings and age control is done. Because it was the easiest way to simply cut most sexy stuff for Germany and several other nations off, insttead of overhauling the age verification we now have this shitty situation.
 

Darkdevil66

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Chapter 3 - Dev Log #12
Hello,
So, what do we start with? The good or bad news?
Let's start with the bad news.

And it's always the same fucking topic...
Music.
So, I got a lovely E-Mail around a week ago, where I was informed that Elijah Fords Management has changed, and they advised him to pull out all the music from previous deals.
"But Ocean, didn't you make a contract?"
Yes, but I was/am a poor bitch and couldn't afford to make a big one-time payment for each song, and instead paid them a monthly fee...
Elijah Ford's music is going to be removed from both games. Late Kids music will most likely stay.
I'm currently negotiating a new contract with them and they agreed to my offer. (1250€ for each song). With this, I'll cover SG and WiAB season 1.
They're also about to release new music soon, and if I like their new stuff, I'll license more from them.

Sadly, I'm losing one of my favorite songs... Every Night, which isn't directly owned by Late Kids, but by Elijah.
It was an exception back then, that I went for the monthly fee thingy... But I just couldn't afford a more secure option & desperately needed music.
"Some Days" & "Run" will stay if Late Kids agrees to the contract, which was professionally made by my lawyer.
I'm not ever going to buy a license again, that isn't completely safe.
WiAB will be hit much harder by this, as WiAB is a full-fledged adult game with pornographic content.
While SG Season 1 isn't and this gives me a lot more options.

The way to move forward is by contacting artists personally and offering them a contract... I said that last year, and I'm going to be totally honest here.
I only contacted a handful of artists...
I absolutely hate it. I hate spending hours writing back and forth.
I hate negotiating with artists whose music nobody knows, and they think that their song is worth a good 4-digit sum.
I must also admit that I'm still bitter when it comes to music. Having to remove songs that I had prepared for years really left a scar on me.
So many cinematics died with them.

Right now, WiAB certainly isn't in the financial position to acquire good music on its own, but whenever I contact someone, I always ask them to license it to both SG and WiAB.
A lot depends on how well SG hits Steam in the upcoming months... And if it goes well, I'll hire someone whose only job it is to contact and negotiate music contracts for SG and WiAB.
But until then, not a lot of music will be added to the new WiAB releases.
Before I add copyright-free crap music, I'd rather add none at all. I still have some sources of music, but WiAB pays out of its own pocket, and that pocket isn't deep.

Those were the bad news.
Let's get to some good news.
1.
I have reached new highs in productivity. The last two weeks have been the most productive weeks since I started developing. Slowly but surely.
In one day, I managed to do one rather big animation for SG, and 84 WiAB renders. (Took me 17h to set up & will take about a week to render out.)
Even though I worked that long, I just feel amazing thanks to the small adjustments I made over the past years. (Diet, daily workouts, meditation, etc.)
All the fine-tuned details are finally starting to add up and take effect & I'd say the aftermath of moving across the country has vanished.
I've also discovered a very impressive strength of the A6000. I'll reveal said strength after the Chapter 3 release... And I'm sure you'll love it. ;)

I've finished another two scenes & built another three Environments. (Lots of new environments will be introduced in Chapter 3, and will play a role for most of WiAB's story.)
Here's an example:

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2.

I've also found a way to increase the fine details (Skin, etc.) by about 5%-30% depending on the render. (You won't see it in the previews, as I figured it out afterward.)

3.

I'm now finally registered in Berlin, and there's only one thing left (It should come via. post in the next few days) until I can finally contact the Workstation boys again.

As you might remember, I couldn't even ask for it because of Berlin's failed bureaucracy.

But now almost all the puzzle pieces are in place. (The workstation would have 1x A6000 Ada + 1x A6000 (WiABs.) and would be used for both games as the main setup station. (All other PCs become render nodes.)



A lot of it depends on the Steam release of Summer's Gone.

Even if you don't play it/like it, spreading the word about SG's Steam release (Non-Adult also available in Germany, etc.) will tremendously help WiAB too.

SG on Steam:

If it goes very well, I might even be able to put 4x A6000 Ada into the workstation. Long rendering times would be a thing of the past.


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I'll see you in the next Log with probably the first spoiler-free previews of the big, last scene.

- Ocean
 

Rozhok

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Thanks for sharing the Dev log.
Can you just imagine all the people putting the music slider to 0 :ROFLMAO:

I was thinking, maybe next to incest patches, Ocean needs music patches that can recover the original music and it wouldn't point to Ocean since it was "fan provided".
 

Ilhares

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Well, I feel bad for him having the troubles, but once again it has no effect on me whatsoever, as there isn't a VN yet that I've kept the music on for. With more and more devs having this problem, I guess I would rather see them focus. on the story aspects. If the writing is weak no music can save it.
 

LonerPrime

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Sad to hear about the music situation. Always loved tunes and WIAB's really stood out complementing both its story and the scenario. Hope Ocean finds a compromise because it's just not ideal having the game progress stunt cause of music artists.

Still, having good music disappear cause of licensing issues makes me want to pick up SG as soon as possible so I can experience what sounds it has to offer as well.

Also it's intriguing that there were cinematics with other music as well. Would have really loved to watch them if they were ever made public. WiAB's intro cinematic/music had me hooked.
 
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TheReDeeMeR

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It's not sad at all about this music "problem". It's actually very funny. It blows my mind how much money he spends on this music when actually it's free. OR, just like he said, use copyright-free "crap" music. WHO CARES in the end?
Ocean is not a musician, we are not musicians and the game is not about music at all.
He should use this money to buy more VRAM or whatever is important to render faster.
 

Don Sucio

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It's not sad at all about this music "problem". It's actually very funny. It blows my mind how much money he spends on this music when actually it's free. OR, just like he said, use copyright-free "crap" music. WHO CARES in the end?
Ocean is not a musician, we are not musicians and the game is not about music at all.
He should use this money to buy more VRAM or whatever is important to render faster.
I´m agreed with you about spend money in render faster it would be the best but the music in a game is important , in many times is what people remember about something, the best games of all time are principally recognices by their music (Halo, Skyrim, God of War e.t.c...) This game is something more ,not only a sex game. Maybe Ocean should focussed more in render faster but i don´t think leave the game without music is a good idea.
 

zandalari

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Has no one bothered to tell him to maybe get the games to a good spot to get more people buying them (if not outright finish them) and THEN dick around with adding whatever music he wants to moments that warrant it?

I know the man wants everything immediately, but a solo dev has to make some compromises. And I'd rather it be in the damn soundtrack vs the actual game.
 

Razrback16

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I think the music adds a lot to scenes, personally, so hopefully Ocean is able to get that solved down the road. I like the guy's suggestion above in the meantime about a "modder of unknown origin" coming up with a patch similar to the incest patch that people can tack on separately to "restore" music.
 
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