HarveyD

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polycentric HarveyD You are right you are free to feel how you choose and post as you see fit, though it's not much of a discussion, as you put it Poly, when we feel someone is posting JUST to troll without any viable feedback. I am not necessarily saying that is what either of you are doing, but I can see how other could view it that way. That said looking for realism in a porn Harem game seems ironically kinda unrealistic, but, ok, let's talk about it, what was realistic before that isn't now? Also just because the drama ramped up for a bit doesn't mean the wholesomeness isn't there.

Things have changed a touch on the hidden princess, have you played the bowling event update?

As for too many characters, maybe you're right, time will tell, question is are you willing to wait and find out?

A number of long active thread members have been critical of the game at points, including things you have mentioned, and some time ppl get touchy and react badly, but over all were good with critiquing IF it is worded right. Coming out attacking the game by saying it's sickening can affect ppl's willingness to listen, like happened to Harvey. We ALL need to work on our wording when irritated, god knows i can fail to make my points when i am, in order to have proper discussions. Thank you for sharing your opinion, even if it is dissenting.
It's totally fine for unrealistic things to happen in a story, of any kind. But there's a limit. As polycentric pointed out, there's a lot of things happening in this story that are enitre stories of their own by other authors. There's only so much some readers can handle before it's too much. It being a porn harem game also shouldn't stop people from criticizing the story. Braindrop has clearly put effort into it, so "it's a porn game so it doesn't really matter" isn't fair I don't think.

I did not say the game was sickening. There are many good things about WVM and overall I'm enjoying it. I said the hero worship and his overly self-sacraficing were sickening. But perhaps that's too strong a word for some people. They're annoying. Edit before anyone gets the wrong idea. The story elements are annoying.
 

HarveyD

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I don't feel there is little to no reason for it. The fight scene was done in a tasteful way. It shows the MC is no superman, it shows he is not always right on his decisions, sure some ugly things happened during the fight, but it brought up new and interesting questions. It was clear Ryker was not in a good state of mind, he was looking for his uncle and thought the MC knew where he was. I believe there is a lot more to it than just that as well. Don't forget that Ryker was working on some gambling scheme that the MC wanted no part in. The MC also knocked Ryker out once before too so the fight was like a revenge story for Ryker. There seems to be a lot more to it as well and hopefully we learn more in future updates.
I can't personally say it was tasteful. Just made me roll my eyes and go "Ugh, not again."
 

Badjourasmix

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One of the things I really like about this game is that the mc seems to always put others first. In a world where a lot of the adult games focus on stuff like corruption and things like that, it's cool to see a game where the mc genuinely cares about the girls and does everything he can to protect them.
 

ZTex

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I'll happily admit when I'm wrong and it seems you can actually be cuffed without being arrested. It just all happens after a fight scene all too familiar in adult VNs, thugs kicking the crap out of the MC for no more reason than they hate him "because" and the MC doing little, or being unable to do little, to defend himself. It very quickly gets frustrating.
What ?

Have you never been in a fight in your life ? People kick the crap out of each other for exactly that reason personal dislike.
Also when the numbers are against you in a fight, guess what you're generally unable to defend yourself from it. Besides that it's not like the MC didn't give as much as he got once the numbers were equalled out.

It's one thing to pan the writing for being inconsistent, but panning that sequence for it outside of some of the scene angles not matching the descriptive text is silly.
 

Spfjolietjake

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Everybody you are all pretty!


We just don't agree. I have lots of friends I debate with. I have zero enemies that I debate with. There is a big reason for that.

I hate statements that go "fans will turn because..."
"Everybody..." (yes I started this post with that one :) )

There will never be a vn that is 100% satisfying to Everybody. Everybody will never agree 100% on anything and you know what that's okay.

This vn is one of my top 5 because of many reasons some don't like. Expressing what you don't like and what you do like is good.

Saying it has to change or demanding or bullying same as saying it has to stay the same or bullying and demanding is bs. Only one person and their benefactors should have that kind of say imo

Drink live be Mary or don't but atleast play respectful to each other here. This is a good group
 

cakeny

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Jesus the hero worship of the MC and his own self sacraficing nature are kinda... sickening.

And I don't know exactly which update the bit im playing through right now was part of but the lack of real world logic is ridiculous. Please tell me someone has brought this up already. No charges are being pressed, but they've been cuffed, arrested and put into cells? I'll admit I've never been involved in a big fight like that but I don't think that's how it works. Either you're arrested for a crime or you just give a statement.
You can be arrested and held for a time without being charged.
 

Skode

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The dick needs to go back to HUGE or change the dialog from its HUGE to say average like it is. Hell mines bigger than it is now. The girls constantly going on about how huge it is and its not seems stupid. The dialog was clearly written before the visual change, it just does not match.
Brainddrop has already declared he will work on a week one revamp which will touch up on a lot of plotholes and dialogue stuff like that. He actually planned it some time ago but has focused on creating new content updates for the now as of course people prefer the new to updated older content.
 
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csmk14

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The dick needs to go back to HUGE or change the dialog from its HUGE to say average like it is. Hell mines bigger than it is now. The girls constantly going on about how huge it is and its not seems stupid. The dialog was clearly written before the visual change, it just does not match.
You sound insecure, just saying, ain't no one else saying they gotta bigger dick than a cartoon, but I'll humor you and do the math. (Rough estimate) MC is roughly 3in in diameter. and based on estimated height of mid to high 6 ft range making his torso probable 3 to 4 inches longer than my 5'7 body in difference base of shaft to belly button than mine, which is 7in and considering he is 1-2 short of belly button in current update, that puts him in the 8-9in range, so if you ask most women if they'd find an 8-9in by 3in diameter penis huge, I think very would would say NO.
 

ZTex

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You sound insecure, just saying, ain't no one else saying they gotta bigger dick than a cartoon, but I'll humor you and do the math. (Rough estimate) MC is roughly 3in in diameter. and based on estimated height of mid to high 6 ft range making his torso probable 3 to 4 inches longer than my 5'7 body in difference base of shaft to belly button than mine, which is 7in and considering he is 1-2 short of belly button in current update, that puts him in the 8-9in range, so if you ask most women if they'd find an 8-9in by 3in diameter penis huge, I think very would would say NO.
You mean they don't find getting railed by a pvc pipe ready to explode at the slightest touch enjoyable ?

How dare porn and porn games lie to me.
 

FreshRevenge

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Is there anyway that these updates can only add the update like a patch instead of downloading the whole game again and again? I am not familiar Ren'py or any other VN method.
 

ralphie12k

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And I don't know exactly which update the bit im playing through right now was part of but the lack of real world logic is ridiculous. Please tell me someone has brought this up already. No charges are being pressed, but they've been cuffed, arrested and put into cells? I'll admit I've never been involved in a big fight like that but I don't think that's how it works. Either you're arrested for a crime or you just give a statement.
You can be held up to 72 hours without being charged in some US states.
 

Uncle Loco

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Is there anyway that these updates can only add the update like a patch instead of downloading the whole game again and again? I am not familiar Ren'py or any other VN method.
I think that is the plan going forward. I thought BD said the next update would be like this.
 

The Krypt Angel

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Is there anyway that these updates can only add the update like a patch instead of downloading the whole game again and again? I am not familiar Ren'py or any other VN method.
There was some guy that did a few unofficial "update only" patches a while back for a few updates in the .7.x range before he disappeared....so sure it's apparently possible. However BD seems content to continue releasing the game the way he always has so I wouldn't expect things to change.
 

ralphie12k

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The dick needs to go back to HUGE or change the dialog from its HUGE to say average like it is. Hell mines bigger than it is now. The girls constantly going on about how huge it is and its not seems stupid. The dialog was clearly written before the visual change, it just does not match.
I think you watch too much porn. Even at the reduced size it is still a big dick considering he is a tall basketball player and you compare his huge hands to his dick.
 
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