Well, we can say this as an undeveloped storytelling. This scenario truly only works if MC is indeed involved with Josy and Maya the way it meant to be. In that Case he is also responsible for his own action, like it or not.
if you avoid them completely, then we have some plot holes, on the other hand, those peoples who not care about them, should not bitch about it , just let it drop, they are greatly rewarded, wiht Quinn, Jade and with others
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I do have to admit, I hesitant to call this whole Josy Maya thing to a fiasco. Because after a year and half, this is still one of the most talking controversial topic, if that not good writing I don't know what it is, I mean nobody talk about GoT anymore, after season 8
After playing through the Kira/Robin threesome path in Leap of Faith, I'm inclined to agree with you. I adore LoF, but the relationship between Kira and Robin comes across as extremely shallow, probably to justify the MC being able to either join in or pick either individually without feeling like a homewrecker.
For all its faults, I felt BaDIK did a much better job selling me on M&J's relationship, both in how much it really matters to them, and in how fractured it had become. Allowing the MC to build up a genuine connection with each girl individually when their own relationship was at its weakest and then revealing the whole tangled mess is certainly high on drama. But it does make me buy into the confusion all three parties feel, and thus I can potentially believe that all three people might decide to try for a very unorthodox relationship.
Shame DPC couldn't stick the landing...
Exactly. The perception of these 2 is very much based on how you play it but it is also based on the lack of variation that DPC put in Ep 4 depending on how players approached these 2 characters. I'd also say that the reason it gets talked about so much isn't because of good writing but because of bad writing because almost all the issues some people have with these 2 could have been solved if they had been written better.
I think it's the juxtaposition of extremely good writing in the build-up and extremely week writing in the climax. As I said, I think DPC really sold the MC's interest in each girl, and their interest in him. Plus, by letting us control exactly how far those relationships go while making it clear there ARE feelings no matter what, the player can tailor the situation to best suit their own impression of the girls. Add in the Episode 4 flashback, which nicely demonstrated Maya & Josy's interest in each other, and we had a very effective crisis.
Sadly, the payoff turns most of those strengths against themselves. The MC's reaction is a bit extreme even if he slept with both girls, but it's positively ludicrous if deliberately avoided going to far. The final outcome is focused solely on getting the two girls to apologize to each other, ignoring any the wrongs to (or by) MC entirely and thus making his petulance even more awkward in retrospect. To top things off, the girls can wind up flatly rejecting the MC based on very poorly communicated logic, in which case they will immediately start making out without a second thought as the MC walks away, ensuring the rejection will feel as spiteful as possible.
So yeah, having a decline in quality that sharp in such a short span is always going to draw a response.
you divide the blame equally between them, but what MC says are bullshit, while what Josy says is a very human response ...
You don't consider bullshit a human response on occasion?
If I was unclear, I put it that bluntly to illustrate it from Josy's POV; the MC is obsessed over minor details that shouldn't matter to him (Josy being in a same-sex relationship), or blaming her for not somehow knowing the MC knew Maya. I definitely get why the MC was feeling so hurt in the moment and I don't hold it against him any more than I do Josy's anger (or Maya hiding her relationship, for that matter). Sorry if it seemed otherwise.
(Well, that assuming the MC slept with both of them, that is. As I said above, if the MC chose to respect Josy's relationship, and didn't make advances on Maya (as she originally asked him not to), then I really do think his histrionics are utterly uncalled for.)
