TonyMurray
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i'm just sayin that story writer is not skilled enough to write dialogues for kids so they speak like adults. Adults dialogues in this game are very good and realistic.Well, I met a lot 8 years old boys and girls as my kids were at that age. I don't know where you're living, but in the social circle my kids were at the age of 8 years the brain of the kids were developed enough to know what feelings are and what kind of actions can hurt the feelings of others. Kids learn this around the age of 3 to 5 normally. But maybe you're living in a special place with special kids who're a little bit slower. Who knows? I'm not judging, just saying your assumption about MC not being a normal kid isn't well explained. Oh, and btw when you played this game, you could know he's an american boy.
I think we all get what you said. Stand by it or correct yourself, but don't take us for fools.i'm just sayin that story writer is not skilled enough to write dialogues for kids so they speak like adults.
Absolutely in agreement.I'm going to disagree, at least in principle. This is a porn game, but I don't think it's necessarily wrong to limit the porn options available based on what would be 'realistic' for a given person. Strong characterization is one of the bedrocks that can make an AVN so compelling, and some characters really are going to struggle with an idea like sharing a lover with someone else. Riding roughshod over that sort of objection may titillate, but it also flattens the distinction between characters. IMHO, that's too high a price to pay, at least as a general rule. As much as I'm down on the developers for the way they handled the end of the game, I'll defend their right to insist that some fantasies are beyond the scope of a given game.
HOWEVER...
If you want to go that route, you have to make it abundantly clear WHY those fantasies are impossible. We're talking about something that goes against who that person is at their core; you can't just live in narrow edge cases where asking for the impossible would work if you use the right wording. You need to make a clear, compelling case for why a character couldn't go along with something, and the case needs to appeal to a broad swath of players over a very wide set of circumstances. Try to get too cute with it and it's going to feel like an unreasonably convoluted secret path, or worse, like a bait and switch.
And that's where I think the devs screwed up here. I can easily buy that Jaye is just too possessive to share 'her' MC. I cannot buy she'd suddenly reverse course on that because the MC made a point of sulking about a girl he had to give up for Jaye; if that trick worked, Jaye/Tara would be an easy thing. Nor do I buy that an MC who DID decide to cut things off with Mallory to focus on Jaye would suddenly want to start things back up with Mallory at the 11th hour. He abandoned Mal (sexually) weeks ago, so he's clearly comfortable with that idea at a basic level. What makes him think things would work smoothly if he hits Ctrl-Z now? Why risk something - something that was so precious he gave up on Mallory for it in the first place - on such a longshot? And why would Jaye take the MC's acquiescence as a sign of his love for her rather than buyer's remorse?
The answer, obviously, is that they wouldn't - if this weren't a porn game. Maybe you could make this twist work if you spent several chapter setting it up and seeing the characters struggle with the changes. Maybe. But trying to cram it into a single scene in the chapter that had lots of other loose ends to tie up? No way. It not only feels fake, it damages the integrity of the characters involved. It's the worst of both worlds: the characters are flattened into bland tropes, but we still don't get the extra titillation that should go along with that. Everyone loses.
Plus, it really grinds my gears the way the game promises us that we should "play our conscience" in the intro, then slams us with a folding chair at the end for daring to think that the proper way to start a polyamorous relationship is with a heaping helping of honesty. Evidently our 'conscience' should be a finely tuned propensity for gaslighting and deception. Fake it 'til you make it, MC!![]()
It's only hard if you think that treating both girls equally means you love them both equally. But according to the developers, Jaye needs to love the MC 15-20% more than Mallory does for poly to be a thing. Even if you make it so Mallory is +90 and Jaye is +90...it's not good enough. No, you literally have to choose Jaye at every opportunity when there is an option to choose either her or Mallory - even for arbitrary things like who you look at when they are tanning topless.While the ending you're looking for may be the hardest one to obtain, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the "best" ending.
what you think is irrelevant. Problem is most VNs have poor writing because there are many people who can use DAZ and create visuals and very few people who can actually write meaningful story, "speaking" for many different characters of different ages in such way that just by reading text you can distinguish them from each other. I just started playing this game and instantly noticed how kids talk like adults when they go to school and talk about Star War movie like pair of film critics. Bullshit. Whatever, i'll just fast forward through prologue, may be after that it will get betterI think we all get what you said. Stand by it or correct yourself, but don't take us for fools.
I don't think that CS or pretty much any AVN is going to be for you. You just started and you're already complaining that two 8 years olds aren't talking exactly how you think they should. Honestly it's almost like you've gone into this looking to hate on it for whatever reason. There's nit picking (which I can be guilty of myself at times) and then there's this.what you think is irrelevant. Problem is most VNs have poor writing because there are many people who can use DAZ and create visuals and very few people who can actually write meaningful story, "speaking" for many different characters of different ages in such way that just by reading text you can distinguish them from each other. I just started playing this game and instantly noticed how kids talk like adults when they go to school and talk about Star War movie like pair of film critics. Bullshit. Whatever, i'll just fast forward through prologue, may be after that it will get better
Then why do you answer?what you think is irrelevant.
Sorry, that's a you problem. The (admittedly odd) way to achieve a 3 way ending has been discussed extensively.omg im so sad that we cant get a 3 way ending![]()
Of course you are out, sorry no sorry for hurting your "feelings"Then why do you answer?
And for the rest of your "opinion" it's going off topic. A little bit off topic is okay for the most Mods, but we shouldn't stretch it. And with "we" I mean you, because I'm out of this discussion now. Just a hint for the future: don't try too hard.
I've played about hundred AVNs at this point, there are several ones with good writing, usually when dev that wrote text has some writing education/background. But most of AVN are bad at this department and most dialogues sounds same plain, primitive and boring, looking same for different chars and just askin to be skipped. I don't even talking about stories, this require even more skill from writer.I don't think that CS or pretty much any AVN is going to be for you. You just started and you're already complaining that two 8 years olds aren't talking exactly how you think they should. Honestly it's almost like you've gone into this looking to hate on it for whatever reason. There's nit picking (which I can be guilty of myself at times) and then there's this.
I may have a few minor issues with CS (mostly me wanting to have my cake and eat it too) but even so this is for me without a doubt, one of the best AVN's around.
What's ongoing project (3DCRG) going on from Category -A1-Developers(StoneFoxStudio)?View attachment 832584
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Chasing Sunsets follows the story of step-siblings reconnecting and dealing with the fallout of their parents' unexpected deaths. As the story progresses, they will cooperate (or compete) with each other to discover the secrets of their parents' success in business and in love. The player's choices will determine both how the game ends, and whom he finishes it with. Explore majestic Tonalu Island and the motivations of the tempting ladies encountered along the way...But don't lose sight of what you're there for!
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Their new title is called FirebreakWhat's ongoing project (3DCRG) going on from Category -A1-Developers(StoneFoxStudio)?
Well, it has Tara front and center, so I'm in.Their new title is called Firebreak
From the devs:
This is where we take some of the lessons we learned from Chasing Sunsets and apply them in a way that makes the long wait between updates more bearable.
- We plan to keep the story in the same universe with some crossover characters from Chasing Sunsets
- We're looking at a different approach to episodic releases which will hopefully makes each update more self-contained
- It will feature a male MC
- While the game will be story-driven, there will be more potential LIs, including some who were not LIs in Chasing Sunsets
We also recognize that while slow burns have their place, (we will certainly include them in Firebreak), these are called Adult Visual Novels for a reason. We thought a lot about a story vehicle to deliver more of that kind of content convincingly earlier in the game without cheapening or overcomplicating the relationships with ladies you may like, but find less interesting.
We're super excited to be approaching the end of one story, but even more excited to share that the tale of the friends we made along the way won't necessarily end with the last sunset!
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By the looks of that preview image, I'm putting them all on the menu. Some with a higher priority, of course, but they all look good.Well, it has Tara front and center, so I'm in.
While there might be a handful of other attractive ladies too, Tara will be the reason to try this out.
I always get a bucket of horseshit thrown my way when i state most stories in VN's suck and i'm only here for the porn.I've played about hundred AVNs at this point, there are several ones with good writing, usually when dev that wrote text has some writing education/background. But most of AVN are bad at this department and most dialogues sounds same plain, primitive and boring, looking same for different chars and just askin to be skipped. I don't even talking about stories, this require even more skill from writer.
I'm not tellin that CS is bad AVN. I'm just telling that I noticed immediately from the start, kids doesn't talk like that, its complete bullshit. I saw this in many AVNs when MC being 18 years old began to give life advices to people of age of 40+, talking in such manner anf phrases like he already had 30 years of life experience behind his back. Same bullshit. Bad story/writing. Unrealistic. And it's clearly noticable.
This is why an in-game gallery is such a good addition. It allows easy access to the content you want in that particular moment - I always check for a gallery or gallery mod when I am checking out a new game, as I can get an idea of the graphics, animations, and lewd-scene quality to help me make an early decision on how far to test the game.I always get a bucket of horseshit thrown my way when i state most stories in VN's suck and i'm only here for the porn.
I don't read most of it and most of the time i skip to the hot scenes.
Saves me from the written bullshit.
edit: yes ik know dudes , Pornhub for me
HOLY SHIT...every female is stunning...and I see one of my favorite girls in the center..Lisa...on another note..does anyone know what the projected release date is the the epilogue of chasing sunsets? thanksTheir new title is called Firebreak
From the devs:
This is where we take some of the lessons we learned from Chasing Sunsets and apply them in a way that makes the long wait between updates more bearable.
- We plan to keep the story in the same universe with some crossover characters from Chasing Sunsets
- We're looking at a different approach to episodic releases which will hopefully makes each update more self-contained
- It will feature a male MC
- While the game will be story-driven, there will be more potential LIs, including some who were not LIs in Chasing Sunsets
We also recognize that while slow burns have their place, (we will certainly include them in Firebreak), these are called Adult Visual Novels for a reason. We thought a lot about a story vehicle to deliver more of that kind of content convincingly earlier in the game without cheapening or overcomplicating the relationships with ladies you may like, but find less interesting.
We're super excited to be approaching the end of one story, but even more excited to share that the tale of the friends we made along the way won't necessarily end with the last sunset!
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100% this - there are a couple who, from this distance, are not on the same level as everyone else for me, but they are still great looking.HOLY SHIT...every female is stunning...and I see one of my favorite girls in the center..Lisa...on another note..does anyone know what the projected release date is the the epilogue of chasing sunsets? thanks
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Now that pach 1.01 is out (and still fails to account for one world state due to a Ch7 bug) and Kent and I are enjoying our traditional week off from development, I thought I'd take a moment and post about the future of our first title. (v1.01 is available at the pinned download links.)
Here is the planned release cycle and what to expect with each:
v1.02 - Sept 2024: This will include bug fixes for all chapters, including the one mentioned above from Chapter 7. If this update adds new content, it will only be to patch bugged paths, such as Mallory still thinking she's on the casual sex path after MC has rejected her every advance in Ch6.
v1.10 - Dec 2024-Mar 2025: This will be our Epilogue Chapter. It will begin a few days before the scene in Walter's bar at the end of Ch9, and take the player through the outcome of the lawsuit. (Yes, there will be a trial) and then take the MC through the immediate outcomes of his ending, followed by a glimpse of his future. We are evaluating a mechanic that would allow the MC to have an incomplete look at what his ending might have looked like had he made different choices as well.
This version (the final chapter update) will be titled "Chasing Sunsets" and will also endeavor to tie up any loose ends, such as what happened to Vince if you left him alive, how that ring ended up on Jaye's finger at the end of Ch9, and most importantly, what happened to Hank the Wolf.
The final content update will certainly offer the player an opportunity to see some faces that have been absent such as Rikki, Bianca, and others. Each will have individual content, depending on choices made up to this point.
The points system will go away in the final chapter, and while there will be choices, they can affect pathing within that ending.
v1.11 - TBD 2025: This will be our final version, after which we will only patch the game if bugs are discovered, and it will be considered a completely finished product. This will focus on bringing legacy animations and art up to our current standard, refining dialogue, and possibly adding additional choices or providing a smoother experience navigating the relationship realities.
v1.11 is not expected to maintain save compatibility with previous versions, because new variables will be introduced and some legacy variables removed.
That's it in a nutshell. After taking a few days off, Kent and I will be burning the midnight oil to get this entire project into a state we can call "a job adequately done." We'll let you know periodically how things are going, and of course, watch the Previews channel for a sneak peek of what lies ahead!