VN Ren'Py Abandoned Coming Home is Never Easy [Prologue] [Caveboomer Productions]

[Jethro Hatfield]

ontach I see what you're saying, and after reviewing the script once more I can see the disconnect. I wasn't clear enough with the reason for the MC to stay the night in the estate. I do apologize and I will make sure to clarify that in Chapter 1.

Thank you for pointing this out Ontach.

 

[punisher2099]

How is the sexual content going to be handled for the family considering their trauma? How are the girls going to handle intimacy with the mc? How are we the players not going to feel like crap for wanting to?(for those of us that actually care about the story and not just here to fap)

 

[Avaron1974]

How is the sexual content going to be handled for the family considering their trauma? How are the girls going to handle intimacy with the mc? How are we the players not going to feel like crap for wanting to?(for those of us that actually care about the story and not just here to fap)

That's what story is for........

 

[Jonny Skull]

As I've played through more than my fair share of novels here, I've noticed that they all had something in common. They all remained in the "There's nothing wrong in the world" area, choosing to focus more on interpersonal conflicts amongst the LI's instead of some other type of antagonist.

While I find it troubling to say all of them are like that, I do feel there are far too many games that seem to not have an actual narrative and are solely just a string of interactions with LIs one after another. So I welcome an actual structured plot.

I was a bit confused by Sheila. She overhears MC tell Katelynn he was molested and she visibly reacts it the information but later when she does her (rather silly) Russian roulette thing she seems completely surprised hearing it, complete with wide-eyed shock and dropping her shot glass.

Hey on a technical note is it possible to put like a box behind the name tags? There was many a time when I had to really squint to read who was talking.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

I was a bit confused by Sheila. She overhears MC tell Katelynn he was molested and she visibly reacts it the information but later when she does her (rather silly) Russian roulette thing she seems completely surprised hearing it, complete with wide-eyed shock and dropping her shot glass.

i mentioned that issue too...because Sheila spies on MC twice! When MC was busy talking with the detectives and when she heard MC's confession about being the father's first victim of rape.

 

[Jonny Skull]

i mentioned that issue too...because Sheila spies on MC twice! When MC was busy talking with the detectives and when she heard MC's confession about being the father's first victim of rape.

Yeah, I kind of gave her a pass on the first time because I thought maybe she was just doing the whole tsundere thing but the second time just didn't make sense to me.

I mean, I'd have walked immediately after the will was read.

Why? It was the father he was pissed at and he's dead. Why wouldn't he want to stick around with his "family"?

On that note, I do think the whole "family" thing is a bit overcomplicated. I felt I needed an org chart after the introductions.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Yeah, I kind of gave her a pass on the first time because I thought maybe she was just doing the whole tsundere thing, but the second time just didn't make sense to me.

Either Sheila was acting "forgetful" just to tease MC(but it wouldn't make sense considering the "weight" of the situation) or she wanted to hear him say it clearly...which makes no sense anyway because she spied MC the second time too XD

 

[lookin352]

I knew coming into this project that the novel might not be widely well received at the start, and it's something I am okay with. Because I know where the story is going. It will not change much along the way. This is the story I wanted to tell, It will not necessarily be right for every reader and that is perfectly okay.

In time every choice I've made with the development process will make sense. And as the story continues to unfold more things will come to light. And the tone will gradually grow lighter as the story progresses as well.

Dont let the naysayers get you down. I look forward to how the story unfolds. Just dont take months to update, if you can possibly help it.

 

[lordfridge9]

Love it when the bitch gets upset lol

The story and the premise are quite weird, if not fucked up, but I guess if the dev wants to do their thing, let them, especially if it's their first try. If they do it, because they simply want a story, nothing can or will change, but if for money, well then you go where the audience leads

 

[caxhub]

this is an unofficial android port Coming Home is Never Easy [Prologue] APK -

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[Norman Knight]

Warning long post ahead

So I did a replay to refresh my memory of all the events so far in the game and to see how they hold up to the critics that were made.

Starting with the obvious the rape of the woman of the house, now when I first played the game I thought it was unnecessarily extreme that all of them were raped, having a better context helps to understand how it's possible and while I still think it's too extreme I can understand why they would allow it to happen, I still feel there needs to be a clearer explanation because it did seem that they didn't try to stop it, being afraid of him is understandable, but when it happens to all of them they should have done something, fortunately something did happen.

I don't agree that the people that didn't like that setup, are too sensitive or projecting too much, rape has unfortunately become a easy way to add drama to a story, its overuse is so great that when you see it happen, you can't help but feel that its used as a cheap way to create drama, I don't think that is the case here but the people that think it is are not exactly wrong in assuming that it is.

Right now the tone of the story its quite dark, even depressing considering that despite everything he did the father more or less got away with it since he died in a mostly peaceful way while the people of the town think he's a great guy who helped everyone and even the women of the house seem to have develop an extreme Stockholm syndrome since they all try to justify what he did.

right now the story need something good to happen, something that balances the dark aspect of it, if only bad things keep happening the story is at risk of loosing itself in its own depression causing the player to give up and stop playing because everyone has a really shitty life and there is no indication that it can have a happy ending for anyone.

I like the basic premise of the story and while I don't fully agree with the way it's presented I do wish to see how it develops, lets just stop assuming that anyone that doesn't like its just angry that there's no virgins left, people have the right to dislike the story, that doesn't make them wrong its their opinion

 

[BigDaddyDonuts]

I for one am even more interested in the game now after learning what happened. I feel like stories that start like this usually develop into the most wholesome shit I've ever seen. Seeing the victim overcome the horrible things that happen and continue to persevere and even find love is amazing to watch. Being immersed into the role of the person helping them is even better.

It's really unfortunate people are so quick to turn tail and run even though its already been established that any current events will be void of any NTR, swinging, etc. There's already plenty sunshine and rainbow beginning to end type games on here. While there's nothing wrong with that, it's nice to see a dev breaking the mold.

Its nice seeing a dev stick to their guns, ESPECIALLY when they've really done nothing wrong and even warned that there were going to be some dark things revealed. It's nice to see passion from a dev as well, which I believe is clearly shown.

I usually wait a little longer into a games lifespan to support financially but the way you've handled yourself in this thread has really impressed me. This site can be really unforgiving towards dev, warranted or unwarranted. You all(?), I think I saw someone else comment claiming to be the writer, keep doing what you're doing. I feel the road will still be rough going forward, but I'm excited to see how this'll develop and how these issues in game will be tackled.

Best of luck

 

[HansDampf788]

ESPECIALLY when they've really done nothing wrong and even warned that there were going to be some dark things revealed.

The problem is that the warning wasn't there at the beginning it was only added after the backlash so if you have no idea what you are talking about don't do it.

 

[Avaron1974]

I don't agree that the people that didn't like that setup, are too sensitive or projecting too much, rape has unfortunately become a easy way to add drama to a story, its overuse is so great that when you see it happen, you can't help but feel that its used as a cheap way to create drama, I don't think that is the case here but the people that think it is are not exactly wrong in assuming that it is.

That isn't what they were complaining about.

They were complaining that dad fucked them first so they were no longer interested in the women. They didn't give a shit about the drama or the story.

 

[Lerd0]

..fun thread....pls keep going.....

 

[BigDaddyDonuts]

The problem is that the warning wasn't there at the beginning it was only added after the backlash so if you have no idea what you are talking about don't do it.

When I initially came across this thread, whenever that was, I remember leaving with the knowledge that the game was gonna have some dark elements. Can't say what I originally read in this thread, I'd have to skim through the first few pages to remind myself.

2nd page, when asked about what the "suspense" tag may hint towards. It was stated the story will have elements of suspense, seemingly to the degree of the estate mystery. Granted, I didn't know it would go the way it did when it came to the father and daughters. It was already stated it will be a wholesome story.

 

[Norman Knight]

That isn't what they were complaining about.

They were complaining that dad fucked them first so they were no longer interested in the women. They didn't give a shit about the drama or the story.

That's true, but you have been around long enough to know how this works, soon enough people will start associating the criticisms of the game with those people that make those absurd complaints, so when someone else makes a critic of the plot or any aspect they didn't like those people that are now calling them out for their unreasonable complains will dismiss their criticism as an insecure boy complaining that someone else fucks his LI, it's always the same the loudest complains become the norm from which all critics will be compared.

It's the same with games that feature NTR, some people complain and after a while all critics are dismissed as "another hater" without bothering the see if they have a point or not, if you read the post after mine, you´ll see that it already started

 

[Jethro Hatfield]

lordfridge9 Our idea was to tell a story that is unique. One that would start off dark, and would become a wholesome tale of redemption, recovery, and healing. There are plenty of foreshadowing moments in the prologue of what's to come, and how the story may unfold. But ultimately this is a story that's meant to be emotionally invoking while providing a narrative perspective that many ACTUAL people in society today currently experience. With some light fantasy elements to provide a "Saftey/ Security Barrier/ Buffer". That space that allows the player to see what the inner workings of some of the most detrimental psychological disorders can look like, while allowing the player to still be able to step back from the novel and say "This isn't real."

Many moments in our novel so far and to come are inspired by REAL LIFE events. This grants some authenticity to our story, while the fantasy elements allow us the potential for some "Non-conventional" solutions to the disorders.

Norman Knight There will be some more uplifting moments coming. I promise that. And the tone will begin to shift lighter and lighter with every release, providing the player has made the choices to allow this to happen. (Help everyone... trust me on this )

BigDaddyDonuts Welcome to our little story, I'm glad to see you've found it interesting so far. And know there is much more to come. There are big things in store for Chapters 1 & 2 already. (I am currently writing the script for Chapter 2 as well as trying to respond to everyone here as well.)

lookin352 We will only release full chapter releases from this point forward. And we will try to maintain a reasonable amount of time between releases, but in the end it's going to take as long as it takes. Each release will be in the general ballpark of 17,000 words or so. I believe Chapter 1 comes in at around 15,000. So each one will be chock full of content, story, graphical, and sexual. This is a side project currently that we are working on, in the time we are not working our Full Time jobs. Perhaps in time we may be able to dedicate more time to this project, but until then I can simply say... "We will certainly try."


As a side note to all who have downloaded the Prologue so far, there is an Easter Egg of (unused images) inside the image folder. There are some shots of Kasey that you may enjoy. (If you haven't already found them of course)

 

[King Caveman Ugg]

That's what story is for........

This is very true, thank you Avaron for your support!

Allow me to introduce myself: I'm the lead artist for Coming Home and the residental caveman of Caveboomer Productions, and I love to snu-snu the elf women! this is the first game I've had the pleasure to work on and it's been great working with Jethro so far on the development of Coming Home!

As for the recent comments I've read on here I shall give some input on the matter: some people who played this game and went "it's too edgy and dark! there's sexual abuse in this game and rape? ugh thats too cheap and easy! Not all the girls are virgins for MC to pop their cherry?! DISGUSTING! unfollow and lemme shit on this game that barely got any information to go off of for a real review and criticism!"

I seen this too much on the forums and frankly it becomes a cycle of nonstop shittery that has been done to death with no critical thinking nor a moment to evaluate the potential. I understand that this game is dark and it may discourage alot of people who are used to the games that are sunshine and rainbows all around. However, Coming Home is supposed to be a bit different from the usual games we see on F95 and needs a bit of fresh air to refresh the monotony (I'm not saying the other games are boring or not exciting, you begin to see alot of similar formulas in new games that become a bit stagnant and becomes the standard.) With that said, Jethro and myself promise the rest of the game won't be as dark as the prologue was.

 

[juan palote]

Normally i would say giving the same background issue to so many characters is lazy, but since its from the same source (your father), ok, not the greatest story writing but lets leave it there.

I am ok with the rape as long as its in the past and its not shown, so only as background story like it is here. I know others are not ok.

But you, as the owner of a private security company, staying to be a caretaker? Yeah, that isnt a believable plot. You need to do better Dev, that needs some story changing because its a big issue and severely hurts the story.