The project is only semi-abandoned, another author has taken up the digital quill and is working on it under a new title which is Love, love and Lunacy. There isn't a whole lot there at the moment, but it is actively being worked on with the blessing of the original author.
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No..it's not. This is dead...the new project has nothing to do with this at all...other than some character models. it is a completely new story.
This is probably a bit too much of a sweeping statement. While the new author is certainly putting a different spin on things, we currently have no idea how much of the original story remains, and that is assuming that Roman (the original author) had a full outline of the direction the story was to take, it is entirely possible that there were only some general story beats and they were going to wing the whole thing, modified by feedback.
You might want to try reading a game's thread before dropping your "pearl of wisdom". There is a lot of history in this one as to what happened to it and why. Funding was not the issue.
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Meep has said themselves they are writing a new story, a 'spiritual successor'....completely freewheeling currently (this was in Sept this year....so there is currently NO story...it's being made up as they go along). All that has survived is some characters.
I suggest you read more about that project and why this died before making your own statements. This is dead...not a broad statement, objective opinion...fact.
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Meepish has gone radio silent on Patreon for about two months now, after previously doing weekly updates. The game thread for the new game is also rather dead. This is after a single bug fix update to the initial release. Not a good sign.
Hopefully things change in the next few weeks and the new game doesn't follow this one's trajectory.
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Yeah wonder why devs would go radio silent... wonder why devs lose interest in finishing their games.. people from this community are too damn entitled, this is legit a PIRATE website and yet some have the gall to DEMAND things from the devs? nah.. if i ever were to make a game and people started trying to dictate whats and ifs, id do the same AND pull the game.
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Did he mention this site at all? No, he said they had gone dead...on their own Patreon. You also realise many here also sub to many devs Patreons right?
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Point still stands, people in this community tend to be entitled. also yes, they DID mention this website.
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I really miss this game.
Some of the best dialogue written. And hot scenarios!
Some of the best dialogue written. And hot scenarios!
Preach! In a sea of bland, cookie-cutter games, DAST really knew how to distinguish itself from the crowd. The writing was absolutely top notch, and that's something I wish other authors strived for. Porn is fun, but it's not enough by itself, it needs a captivating hook: DAST had it, and then some.
Maybe the narration was somewhat unfocused: you had the corporate drama, the familial shenanigans, and the crime story running at the same time. But at the very least it showed a lot of promise, something I personally cannot see in the "spiritual successor".
I hope some other author will draw inspiration from what DAST did. Its current, and unfortunately final, iteration is still a testament to how an adult game can elevate itself and shine.
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I feel like it would be no problem if the dev would do that, because the quality is definitely there.
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So if you were making a game, you'd abandon it if, somewhere on the internet, there were people on a pirate site's forum being overly presumptuous?
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It's funny how rare the word "masturbation" is on F95zone. You'd think this was a Jane Austen book club the way people go on about plot and characters.
Well, tbf, as I'm fapping while the writing is particularly good, I'll grunt "Brav--ohhh! unnnghhh! B-B-Bravv-ohhhh Auuuteur!" as my monocle gets foggy. It's hard to clap one-handed but fortunately the fap sounds like rigorous applause anyway.
Quite a lot of foggy monocles for Roman's work, I must say. He's the best.
fwiw, only partially joking. I seriously can't fap to bad writing unless the game design and art are both incredible enough to make up for it. I drag most F95 games into the trash after 5 minutes since the writing is so bad. My suspension of disbelief threshold is incredibly low and I need good enough writing to feel engaged in any AVN or it just doesn't do it for me. Roman's writing is the best I've seen in any adult game, so he really is skilled vs what's out there in AVNs & videogames in general.
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I think one of the bigger contributors to the discussions about characters (and plot, often) is that many people self-insert into games. So if the MC is an asshole, the player might think, "But I'm not an asshole, so why do I want to play one?" Or, if a LI is toxic, someone might think, "I ditch toxic relationships in my real life, so why would I want one in a game?" I can't say that's for all people — I'm from a heavily literary background, from reading to editing to writing, so I'm analytical of stories without feeling like I have to be the MC or anything — but for a very large number of cases I assume that's why they get into characters and plot so much.
Well, a good AVN will have enough choices to keep the typical player invested in the character if they like to self-insert into MC.
For me though, it actually is about good writing. (Of course, I need to like the scenario too, but I play F-MC games just fine, so identifying with MC is not required for me either).
I just can't fap to an AVN written by someone with remedial writing skill or little life experience. Breaks the immersion of the game (you can be immersed without self-inserting) if it feels like it was written by a 12 year old virgin, like fapping to a stick-figure drawing.
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For my part, it's not about fapping, although obviously that happens sometimes. It's much more about the story and characters to me. I don't self-insert, but I do need to be able to connect with the characters or I can't care about what they do or go through in a story. For the plot and story themselves, I definitely also think the writing is important. For instance, if a writer tells me a character is an expert spy but that same character can't seem to remember their cover story, I struggle with that part, especially if it's a major piece of the whole.
Likely from my years of editing for various publishers and corporations, the quality of English usage and grammar bothers me considerably less. If it's not understandable or there are glaring errors (e.g., "her vagina slid into my dick"), I definitely have a hard time with it. But I tend to be pretty forgiving when my proofreader / editor hat isn't on, probably mostly because I run into so many writers whose first language isn't English. I see poorer English often, and hiring someone like me tends to be pricey. So unless they can get a freelancer or something, having a proofreader actually might be outside of their budget, depending on their actual monthly earnings and other finances.
This game definitely didn't have that problem. Some of the scenes in DAST are exceptionally erotic, so much so that at times I felt almost compelled to be attracted to the girls. It was pretty amazing to see the talent RomanHume has for writing. I haven't played Love, Lust, and Lunacy yet, but I believe he's the writer, so I would expect similar quality in descriptions and dialogue. I definitely remember the major story scenes with Amanda, Cassie, Nanami, Emily (a briefer scene) and both Lola and Lita being extremely well-written. Roman has a huge talent for writing, for sure.
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I've always been willing to do a lot of the... call it imaginitive/stylistic heavy lifting for the writing in my preferred genres. I can read endless series of shitty kindle unlimited sci-fi if I find something intriguing about the premise/universe. For porn games I basically just need the English to be not broken beyond my ability to repair, and by this point I can do a pretty impressive degree of automatic mental substitution on the fly. I'll sometimes remember a different, literate version of the text, and have the actual version come as an unpleasant surprise on replay.
So the writing basically has to be borderline incomprehensible to fall below my standards of enjoyment.
That said, it's actually kind of shocking how many porn games there are with genuinely good writing. The number really has no business being anything not statistically indistinguishable from zero, but even once you get past that there's more than you'd expect. And not necessarily where you'd expect. It was one of the weirdest surprises of my life, going to jerk off only to find myself somehow weeping at something from a game called My Bully is My Lover, of all fucking things.
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