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why is icstor even completing the game, no one is going to subscribe now, he may as well put up a very low effort update and call the game completed. That way the next game he makes will still get some subscribers.
 

Badjourasmix

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why is icstor even completing the game, no one is going to subscribe now, he may as well put up a very low effort update and call the game completed. That way the next game he makes will still get some subscribers.
Who told you he is completing the game? I haven't seen any evidence that suggests he is working on it.
 

Badjourasmix

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i am saying he will, he has to, otherwise the new game will be completely defamed by this fanbase on every thread, every site.
That has been happening for over a year now and he still doesn't care. As long as people are still supporting him on patreon he will not change his behavior.
 
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legend12111

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I am very tensed now in milfy city description on Patreon they are mentioning about university, romantic relationships and stuff it is written that
"DISCLAIMER
My games do not include explicit depictions (spoken, visual, or written) of incest content, bestiality, underage characters, or any other content forbidden by the Patreon TOS. "
Are the developers going to remove incest from the game that is totally based on incest. Please do check and let me if I am wrong. Actually I will be happy if I am wrong.
 

Dylan741

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I am very tensed now in milfy city description on Patreon they are mentioning about university, romantic relationships and stuff it is written that
"DISCLAIMER
My games do not include explicit depictions (spoken, visual, or written) of incest content, bestiality, underage characters, or any other content forbidden by the Patreon TOS. "
Are the developers going to remove incest from the game that is totally based on incest. Please do check and let me if I am wrong. Actually I will be happy if I am wrong.
You're not wrong, just a little late in you discovery, Patreon censored incest, bestiality, and any underaged content 4 years ago. :)
 
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unholyrampancy

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To be honest, I suspect that ICSTOR is just like many other Patreon creators. Started off with a small project, gathered a following, then moved it into a month sub system (Patreon) and started promising big things. Realized that he could not deliver because he didn't have the requisite skillset to actually make what he said, then started looking online for people WITH the knowledge/tools to do what he said. Meanwhile, other things in life start happening. I don't know his age, but it can be anything from school/university to perhaps his "real" job.

But hey, that's just what I suspect.
 
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MurkyTurtle

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To be honest, I suspect that ICSTOR is just like many other Patreon creators. Started off with a small project, gathered a following, then moved it into a month sub system (Patreon) and started promising big things. Realized that he could not deliver because he didn't have the requisite skillset to actually make what he said, then started looking online for people WITH the knowledge/tools to do what he said. Meanwhile, other things in life start happening. I don't know his age, but it can be anything from school/university to perhaps his "real" job.

But hey, that's just what I suspect.
I always love when people suggest he might be distracted by other things like school or a regular job, as though this is somehow a hobby project. He has 5500 patrons donating every month. At an average of $2 a month per patron (and it's likely a lot more than that since you need to be donating $10 a month to download the game) that's $11,000 a month and $132,000 a year in raw income, which would put him in the top 10% of incomes in the US and the top 1% of incomes worldwide. If we assume a more reasonable $5 a month, that'd be $330,000 a year. Unless he's a Silicon Valley software developer, an investment banker, or a brain surgeon this is his full time job.

The fact that he treats his patrons like dirt and uses mental health issues to shield himself from responsibility speaks to his incompetence and his ego, not to some small-time schmuck who got in over his head. If he really needed to step back and focus on something more important he'd have shut down the Patreon years ago.
 

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I always love when people suggest he might be distracted by other things like school or a regular job, as though this is somehow a hobby project. He has 5500 patrons donating every month. At an average of $2 a month per patron (and it's likely a lot more than that since you need to be donating $10 a month to download the game) that's $11,000 a month and $132,000 a year in raw income, which would put him in the top 10% of incomes in the US and the top 1% of incomes worldwide. If we assume a more reasonable $5 a month, that'd be $330,000 a year. Unless he's a Silicon Valley software developer, an investment banker, or a brain surgeon this is his full time job.

The fact that he treats his patrons like dirt and uses mental health issues to shield himself from responsibility speaks to his incompetence and his ego, not to some small-time schmuck who got in over his head. If he really needed to step back and focus on something more important he'd have shut down the Patreon years ago.
The last time he had his earnings open to the public the dude was making $11k a month and he only had 1.4k patrons. He has over 5k patrons now. With that kind of money there is no excuse for him to not release an update. Even if he doesn't want to work on it himself anymore he could easily hire someone to finish the game and it would still be profitable for him.
 
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1tomadeira

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It's been so long I don't even remember. Is this game still "abandoned"? What is the current status to be honest? Good Morning.
Still? It always was. Tag was removed for no reason. Even this game had the tag added when the dev actually wrote there. Not that I disagree with the tag there, but this is clearly double-standard just due this game popularity.

I have no idea why people even believe this game will be recovered. I just come here from time to time to see the memes.
 

unholyrampancy

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I always love when people suggest he might be distracted by other things like school or a regular job, as though this is somehow a hobby project. He has 5500 patrons donating every month. At an average of $2 a month per patron (and it's likely a lot more than that since you need to be donating $10 a month to download the game) that's $11,000 a month and $132,000 a year in raw income, which would put him in the top 10% of incomes in the US and the top 1% of incomes worldwide. If we assume a more reasonable $5 a month, that'd be $330,000 a year. Unless he's a Silicon Valley software developer, an investment banker, or a brain surgeon this is his full time job.

The fact that he treats his patrons like dirt and uses mental health issues to shield himself from responsibility speaks to his incompetence and his ego, not to some small-time schmuck who got in over his head. If he really needed to step back and focus on something more important he'd have shut down the Patreon years ago.
I think that I didn't make my view clear here.

I am not making an excuse for his lack of transparency or progress. What I'm saying is that he was never a fully professional game creator. My suspicion is that he "learned on his way", but eventually realized that what he openly proposed was not feasible by himself.

I should also state that I hate Patreon and sub systems like that. We all look at the number of Patreon supporters and equate that number to his "professionalism" and how producing these games is his actual job. But that is simply false association. His number of Patreon supporters only have to do with the number of H-games he has released thus far and how many people liked them enough to "support his future projects". For all we know, ICSTOR is some guy who actually does graphics for an ads company during the day and spends some time at night and weekends working on his H-game. We have no idea what his real job is and Patreon (as a company) has no reason to shut him down since they're getting a portion of the money his subs are giving to him. Does Patreon send an auditor to his house to watch him work on his Patreon project? Of course not, Patreon is just a donation platform that happens to take a portion of the donations. They are a third party that makes a nice website, help collect money and write up tax statements and that's all.

This is why I suspect that producing these games isn't ICSTOR's real job.
 

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Out of curiosity, how much of a cut does Patreon take? I'm assuming we aren't talking 50% or something ludicrous and it doesn't make much difference in this situation even if it was, but just curious more so for smaller developers
 
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