boy1208

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Is there any way for me to unlock the scenes i didnt choose without having to play through the game again?
 
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Xythurr

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I'm at the part where Kathleen is wanting MC to play with Harper as a birthday gift. I chose all the hardcore options and Kat blueballs the MC.
How do you get her scene?
 

pinuz1

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I'm at the part where Kathleen is wanting MC to play with Harper as a birthday gift. I chose all the hardcore options and Kat blueballs the MC.
How do you get her scene?
I think she needs to trust you. I don't know what choice/choices you need to make for her to trust you exactly, but if you don't mind installing the cheat mod you can cheat and make her trust you using that mod. hope it helped

I checked the walkthrough, she needs to have 8 trust, you can see how much trust she has with the cheat mod. hope it helps

(cheat mod is in the first page of this thread)
 
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dolfe67

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I think she needs to trust you. I don't know what choice/choices you need to make for her to trust you exactly, but if you don't mind installing the cheat mod you can cheat and make her trust you using that mod. hope it helped

I checked the walkthrough, she needs to have 8 trust, you can see how much trust she has with the cheat mod. hope it helps

(cheat mod is in the first page of this thread)
You don't need a cheat mod to see the stats, there is a native screen in the in-game menu
 

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I'm digging the game but I wish they would even out the audio. Some songs you can barely hear then others will blow your speakers out when the action starts.
 

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Sorry for quoting you out of nowhere, Bubu, but I noticed something that it's not on your walkthrough. On Week 2 Part 1 you can choose to kiss Hana and as you point out it gets you 5 affection points but it also subtracts 1 anger point as well. Hope you don't mind me pointing this out but I just noticed and thought you would like to know.
 
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With how limited the audience is and how much actual work it is to write high quality characters, it makes little sense to do that for adult games, and further to answer to a bunch of horny pirates that steal your work anyway. I'd still like to see it of course, but my standards are far lower than what I'd expect in a non-adult game, and I think it's utterly unreasonable to expect any different.

Even if someone had a great idea for something and started that process, I'd only ever take it so far for an adult game, treat it like a demo or proof of concept, then save the rest of it for a mainstream Steam release.
I do understand, but in Last years there has been a grown in audience of AVN, i hope that one Day it will become mainstream enough so some of this games get recognition.
 

Kintty

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With how limited the audience is and how much actual work it is to write high quality characters, it makes little sense to do that for adult games, and further to answer to a bunch of horny pirates that steal your work anyway. I'd still like to see it of course, but my standards are far lower than what I'd expect in a non-adult game, and I think it's utterly unreasonable to expect any different.

Even if someone had a great idea for something and started that process, I'd only ever take it so far for an adult game, treat it like a demo or proof of concept, then save the rest of it for a mainstream Steam release.
You're speaking for yourself, of course. Unless you can produce some sort of market analisys to back your claims, all you have is anecdotal evidence. For my own personal case, all I really know is that I've been avoiding visual novels like the freaking plague, and I was planning on doing the same for this game, skipping text and watching the sex scenes, until suddenly I found myself trapped by the intriguing story and charming characters.

You say it makes no sense, I counter with the fact that the devs managed to charm a determined VN hater into enjoying their game. Evidently, it must make some sense since, to some degree, it works.
 

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With how limited the audience is and how much actual work it is to write high quality characters, it makes little sense to do that for adult games, and further to answer to a bunch of horny pirates that steal your work anyway. I'd still like to see it of course, but my standards are far lower than what I'd expect in a non-adult game, and I think it's utterly unreasonable to expect any different.

Even if someone had a great idea for something and started that process, I'd only ever take it so far for an adult game, treat it like a demo or proof of concept, then save the rest of it for a mainstream Steam release.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like the idea behind that mindset is that lewd game devs are only creating these games purely to make money? Or is that because it will reach such a relatively small audience then why bother? Either way I disagree with the sentiment.

I was about to go into a more detailed spiel, but I'll put it like this: I'm a very amateur artist with an art account that has like 50 followers. Does that mean I should stop putting effort into the art I create, given that I'm not reaching a big audience and am not making money off it? Perhaps it's a bit pretentious to compare lewd games to pieces of art, but the common ground they share is that people are using these things as outlets for their creative visions. Some people do it for profit or whatever sure. But for me, and I'd imagine a lot of others, it's a passion they can put their heart into purely for the fun of creating it in the first place. There's also a certain joy that comes from sharing that with other people, no matter how small the audience is.

My standards in comparison to say a AAA game are much lower as well, but there's still tons of quality lewd games around the site that I'd say even beat mainstream games when it comes to writing and characters. You don't really need a budget for that, but rather just a talent for writing. My favorite game on this site is quite literally one of my all time favorite games even outside of the porn game spectrum.
 

MidnightKing

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What's your favorite game on this site?
Sent you a DM so I don't derail the thread too much, this one is for Pale Carnations after all.

Speaking of, I'm currently going through the game again (albeit slowly) and really enjoying it. I've actually only ever made it to like the early parts of week two because I got to a point where I was like man this game is good and I want to binge it, lets wait for more updates. Decided the time to return was now. Good stuff, excited to see new content.
 

voltairepop

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Quick question, When I play this game in full screen it only shows me half screen. I can't fix this issue. So I have to play in window mode and resize it. Does anyone know how to play in fullscreen? My resolution is a 1080p monitor.
 

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I was about to go into a more detailed spiel, but I'll put it like this: I'm a very amateur artist with an art account that has like 50 followers. Does that mean I should stop putting effort into the art I create, given that I'm not reaching a big audience and am not making money off it? Perhaps it's a bit pretentious to compare lewd games to pieces of art, but the common ground they share is that people are using these things as outlets for their creative visions. Some people do it for profit or whatever sure. But for me, and I'd imagine a lot of others, it's a passion they can put their heart into purely for the fun of creating it in the first place. There's also a certain joy that comes from sharing that with other people, no matter how small the audience is.
Well said.

I like to think about the old RPGM games shared on places like HongFire a decade and a half ago, before patreon shifted the landscape. Just people doing what they can, with limited means, to scratch a creative itch. Hardly any of them are worth remembering for the quality alone, but there's a beauty to the grassroot nature of it. GIL and I still consider ourselves hobbyists; ones who have been extremely fortunate to find traction with an audience. When we started, I said to myself that I'd be happy if 50 people liked our game.

Now, making an adult visual novel is a significant investment of both time and energy, so I don't think there's anything measuring your success financially. There is always an opportunity cost, but I do believe that if you want to last through the times when all the joy is sucked out of the process and it's just being a fucking mean bitch, you need need to derive personal satisfaction from what you're doing. And speaking for GIL and myself, we do the best that we can not because it'll get us more money, but because when we sit down every night to review the day's progress, we still get giddy seeing our efforts come to life on screen. There's no other feeling as consistently gratifying in my life than seeing the silly thoughts and words that I strung together realized by my friend's midas touch.

Sent you a DM so I don't derail the thread too much, this one is for Pale Carnations after all.
I'll do it for you: if you haven't, everyone should check out The Last Sovereign. That game is the epitome of a passion project, and I consider Sierra Lee a role model for game devs.

If it was some other game, oops. I'm just going by your avatar. :KEK:
 
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Ungawa

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There's no other feeling as consistently gratifying in my life than seeing the silly thoughts and words that I strung together realized by my friend's midas touch.
And honestly, the characters resonate in a way that makes me think of this as a throwback to film noir right along with enjoying the MC's growth as a character trying to decide if he's good or bad based on the player decisions.

The reason that people can talk about Ian, Veronica, Rosalind, and the other characters is because we can find a lot to resonate with even in the darkest of times. We speculate on the story trying to understand the complexity and depth of the characters because they can show us things we may not do in real life.

In a way, the story asks us to reflect on what type of people we are at our core and in an entertainment medium, it takes a special talent (or insanity) to be able to do that.

PC being rated so highly with such vibrant characters is certainly a testament to the work and care put into the story and I certainly give my compliments to both chefs on this one.
 
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