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i think you could get away with having any goblin baby scenes by just posting the content as a separate patch on this site. i know that incest stuff cant be on patreon either but ive seen vn creators just post that stuff on places outside patreon to get around it.
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Yes, if we were to do 3D Animations or a fully 3D interactive environment, we'd have to find a way to make the story strong. Our philosophy is better to do something small well, than something big poorly.
To your point, this first version could easily be reproduced in Renpy. We leaned toward Unity because, as I mentioned above, it gives flexibility when it comes to involving much vaster features. But, these conversations, especially about customizable dialog, have given us food for thought.
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It doesn't, but we're considering developing that plotline in a future release. We'll do a poll on what Training activities should be expanded into subplots in April - for instance, Mantis, Brain Slug, Cunt Slug, Crawler, Public, all have greater potential to be whole "side stories."
I trust your vote is, "give me more Mantis content?"
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Drugs and slugs would be my vote. Goblins and drugs go together pretty well, with drugs and poisons giving them an edge to make up for their smaller size. I imagine them putting aphrodisiacs in the slave food too, which would go nicely with the forced orgasm content.
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At this point, it's not really noticeable. The differences are more apparent at the end of the game, which we've yet to reach.
Our Dev Cycle projects that we'll release Act II at the end of April, and Act III - the final act - in May. The endings that vary between "Total Asshole" and "Affectionate Monster" come together in Act III. Thanks for raising this issue!
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Excellent. That's very much in line with our thinking. Beyond expanding the content in Book 1, we're leaning toward having Book 2 featuring Thrush in a more significant way, with many more mind control, aphrodisiac, and transformation potions playing a role in the game.
We shall see what the polls reveal.
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Love the game. Can't wait to see more.
Regarding Patreon you have to either play completely by the rules or hope you go by unnoticed for the most part.
I recommend starting a Subscribestar since it's just another avenue for people to support you. Since you are extremely new on the scene more people would be willing to support you initially there but trying to move an audience from any platform is a big risk and hassle all in one.
That being said if you are going to skirt the patreon rules regarding content then you should either do all or none. Keep everything condensed into a patch/dlc or just make some innovative choices. I.E. Goblin Babies can be born as eggs that then hatch like reptiles. They can then be fully mature but require Milk initially to "enhance their potency". Since you aren't dealing with humans you can pretty much pull magical bullshit out of your ass for almost anything so long as you ground it in fantasy logic.
Regarding Patreon you have to either play completely by the rules or hope you go by unnoticed for the most part.
I recommend starting a Subscribestar since it's just another avenue for people to support you. Since you are extremely new on the scene more people would be willing to support you initially there but trying to move an audience from any platform is a big risk and hassle all in one.
That being said if you are going to skirt the patreon rules regarding content then you should either do all or none. Keep everything condensed into a patch/dlc or just make some innovative choices. I.E. Goblin Babies can be born as eggs that then hatch like reptiles. They can then be fully mature but require Milk initially to "enhance their potency". Since you aren't dealing with humans you can pretty much pull magical bullshit out of your ass for almost anything so long as you ground it in fantasy logic.
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Honestly I wouldn't expect to stay on Patreon very long anyway, rape and other sexual violence is strictly against their rules, I'd expect you'll get banned as soon as they notice you.
Also, alternative dialogue idea for when Thrush wants to borrow her:
"The fuck you want to talk to Snaga for?" asked Skree, scratching his bald head, perplexed, "All her mouth is good for is..." he trailed off. Realisation dawned. "...Oh, I get it now! Ha! Being real slow, weren't I? You want to try her out yourself!" he guffawed, pointed face split by a toothy grin. "You've been good to me over the years, Thrush. Go on, have yer fun. Just no serious damage; remember, she belongs to Byle."
Just an idea for how he could let Thrush borrow her without losing face.
Also, alternative dialogue idea for when Thrush wants to borrow her:
"The fuck you want to talk to Snaga for?" asked Skree, scratching his bald head, perplexed, "All her mouth is good for is..." he trailed off. Realisation dawned. "...Oh, I get it now! Ha! Being real slow, weren't I? You want to try her out yourself!" he guffawed, pointed face split by a toothy grin. "You've been good to me over the years, Thrush. Go on, have yer fun. Just no serious damage; remember, she belongs to Byle."
Just an idea for how he could let Thrush borrow her without losing face.
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It doesn't, but we are likely going to include that as a subplot in a future release. At this point in the story and the Dev, the MC just threatens her with getting pregnant by the mantis. Thanks for asking!
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I like it! Also, we're now polling Patrons as to whether we should develop focused-on-a-few-popular-fetishes subplot (like your drugs/slugs/potions suggestion) or the same format with new NPCs/PCs (and one of those PC options would likely be Thrush).
So, your suggestion gives food for thought on what content would be included in those possibilities.
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We hugely appreciate you saying that you love the game and are excited to see more.
As for the more:
This week, we're doing a poll to set overall creative development strategy
Next week, we're polling our top-level patrons on what 10-page custom comic they'd like to see (what should happen, what fetishes, etc.)
The week after, we release the comic and report the poll results, then start a new poll
And, a month from the first release, we'll release v0.66, which will include Act II of Book 1 (new training dialog and images for a higher Obedience level, different interstitial scenes, another birth scene) and fixes.
Also, given what you said, we're definitely setting up a Subscribestar this weekend. We'll update here when it's live.
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the starting pitch of the goblin driven from his clan explains why he is alone at the start. However, the nature of the goblin being weak, it compensates with a high birth rate. . I would therefore have seen both the trainer-type part for breeders, but also clan management (choice of air, dungeon, caves, etc...) formation of groups to hunt (food), hunt (other females), keep the dungeon, group for exploration, etc...in short, everything that a clan of goblins must face to survive (avoid being enslaved/massacred by orcs, hobgoblins, trolls, ogres, human adventurers , etc...) sometimes ally with other mercenary goblinoids to face threats bigger than their clan, share their breeders with other species to design a stronger generation, experiment with substances, etc...
In short, the subject is interesting, but too often overlooked, and not worked enough.
a mix of goblin lord and defilerwings, for example, could be very interesting to develop...
In short, the subject is interesting, but too often overlooked, and not worked enough.
a mix of goblin lord and defilerwings, for example, could be very interesting to develop...
- Dec 29, 2019
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Trush being the main threat, currently; that the idea of MC to ambush her, neutralize her, and leave on the spot clues suggesting that she was kidnapped by another clan, for example, would be completely in the logic of things (Thrush being the only one worried about Byle's fate, even her boss father didn't worry about her heir's absence). However, MC would have to plan to leave his clan, in order to prevent another member of his clan from falling on Thrush among his captives.
At that time, with his saga and captive Thrush, which he will train as a second saga. Thus recovering, once broken, her skills as a priestess / alchemist / herbalist to ensure future births.
Moreover, by launching two clans against each other, it can give an opening to the MC to try to take one or two other additional sagas. The problem is logistics...
How can a lone goblin:
- 1) find and fit out a den sufficiently to hold several women there captive, without them being able to escape? (find shackles, irons, chains to install) because ropes alone, on the walls of a cave with bare and sharp rock, when it takes him 4 to 6 weeks to break the will of a captives is not viable.)
- 2) To feed itself and its captives, while remaining to guard its lair? at some point he has to go hunting? unless he himself eats his own cum?
At that time, with his saga and captive Thrush, which he will train as a second saga. Thus recovering, once broken, her skills as a priestess / alchemist / herbalist to ensure future births.
Moreover, by launching two clans against each other, it can give an opening to the MC to try to take one or two other additional sagas. The problem is logistics...
How can a lone goblin:
- 1) find and fit out a den sufficiently to hold several women there captive, without them being able to escape? (find shackles, irons, chains to install) because ropes alone, on the walls of a cave with bare and sharp rock, when it takes him 4 to 6 weeks to break the will of a captives is not viable.)
- 2) To feed itself and its captives, while remaining to guard its lair? at some point he has to go hunting? unless he himself eats his own cum?
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I've been thinking about it, and I think that a restructuring to compartmentalise things would definitely help with development. Instead of all the scenes always being available, have him choose early on how to handle her, and then only have a subset of the scenes available depending on what route was chosen. That way you wouldn't have to write brain-drained/bimbo/childlike dialogue for every scene, just those available on the brain drain route. Same for affection, or drugged and brainwashed or whatever other routes that are implemented. Some scenes could overlap like the cannabis scene would fit in the affectionate, drugged, and brain drain routes, but probably not the hardcore torture route for example. Probably some people would prefer more flexibility, and I can't blame them, but making every scene coherent with every different direction her personality could go would be a lot more work.
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This is a really intriguing idea. Admittedly, we'd considered it right at the outset - "drive the action by limiting the actions you can do to her, like most trainers, or let the player do whatever the heck they want, with her reactions dependent on her level of training?"
We may do this significant restructure in either Book 2, or a future remaster of Book 1. It's a common trait among trainers - I think both for the reasons of coherence that you described and because it "gamifies" the game further by demanding players reach a higher level before the kinkier fare is available.
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Kidnapping Thrush and training her is intriguing for a Book 2 option. It fits where we're driving the storyline of Book 1. We'll definitely poll for it. Thanks!
As for the "Logistics" problems, we're aligned with you: Those are the very challenges we intend to explore with game mechanics in Book 3 (or perhaps earlier) when we have the resources to code better "sandbox" mechanics. We'll note those suggestions of yours specifically and really appreciate the thought you've put into this!