VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

Any news on S2?

Every 2 weeks there is a devlog that kind patrons repost here. The most recent one was here. Sometimes there is useful info in the WiaB devlog, which is every two weeks also, but in the alternate weeks. This week is a WiaB devlog, which has a brief mention of SG, but more importantly mentions how Ocean's progress is going, and his sense of direction moving forward. He doesn't give away much, but you get used to reading between the lines.

Hey, did Ocean said who are all the LIs?

Link is in the OP here but it's most likely outdated by now. It's still kept current, but Ocean's been keeping the details to himself.

Has anyone ever come up with this theory? To me they are very similar.

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Kata was my pick for Nick's ex wife - she's overly competitive in sport, so it would be easy to see how her personality became Zara's. Previously also, she was part of the Zane clan which meant she was a potential carrier of the heterochromia gene. Now though, the only people carrying that gene are William and Leia.

Edit: to be clear, she's still part of the Zane clan, it's just William and Leia that aren't genetically part of it anymore (Also, it could be that Vanessa suffered physical abuse causing the heterochromia. Hers is very distinctly different to they way it appears in William). The current state of things though? I have no idea who Nick's ex wife was, it was just me trying to fit someone plausible into the gap.

Mila I think is more likely the daughter of one of Leia's showgirls. I have no proof, but at least some of the characters in SG will not be related. If you look at Daphne in WiaB for example, she's a pretty similar model to Miriam and Nora, face and hairstyle, but it's be more likely they're Gina's kids (and possibly William's). Daphne also has plenty of similarities to Nami. Trying to work these out is even harder than convincing the whole thread Ayua is WIlliam and Miru's daughter. If the thread can't get consensus on that, it's going to take a while for us to discover these theories.

Also, if Kata was Mila's mom, the Holgerson's would be unlikely to charge her, as that would be going against the Zane clan, unless Kata disowned the Zane's and hit rock bottom. I'd think that Katie wouldn't let her cousin live a life of poverty.

 

[Miranha157]

Kata was my pick for Nick's ex wife - she's overly competitive in sport, so it would be easy to see how her personality became Zara's. Previously also, she was part of the Zane clan which meant she was a potential carrier of the heterochromia gene. Now though, the only people carrying that gene are William and Leia.

Edit: to be clear, she's still part of the Zane clan, it's just William and Leia that aren't genetically part of it anymore (Also, it could be that Vanessa suffered physical abuse causing the heterochromia. Hers is very distinctly different to they way it appears in William). The current state of things though? I have no idea who Nick's ex wife was, it was just me trying to fit someone plausible into the gap.

Mila I think is more likely the daughter of one of Leia's showgirls. I have no proof, but at least some of the characters in SG will not be related. If you look at Daphne in WiaB for example, she's a pretty similar model to Miriam and Nora, face and hairstyle, but it's be more likely they're Gina's kids (and possibly William's). Daphne also has plenty of similarities to Nami. Trying to work these out is even harder than convincing the whole thread Ayua is WIlliam and Miru's daughter. If the thread can't get consensus on that, it's going to take a while for us to discover these theories.

Also, if Kata was Mila's mom, the Holgerson's would be unlikely to charge her, as that would be going against the Zane clan, unless Kata disowned the Zane's and hit rock bottom. I'd think that Katie wouldn't let her cousin live a life of poverty.

For me Ayua is William's daughter, since she calls Kate aunt, the only Zane would be Dylan... I've already formed a theory that Nami is very similar to Daphne and the only explanation for her being an "orphan" is that something happened to Daphne during the gang war, but there's also Monica, but anyway, there are so many theories that it's head spinning.

Edit: I still think that Vanessa is William's daughter, and that Nick's wife was Leia precisely because of her temperament and for me she would be the only one capable of wanting to manipulate her daughters to separate from their father.

 

[BobTheDuck]

For me Ayua is William's daughter, since she calls Kate aunt, the only Zane would be Dylan... I've already formed a theory that Nami is very similar to Daphne and the only explanation for her being an "orphan" is that something happened to Daphne during the gang war, but there's also Monica, but anyway, there are so many theories that it's head spinning.

Edit: I still think that Vanessa is William's daughter, and that Nick's wife was Leia precisely because of her temperament and for me she would be the only one capable of wanting to manipulate her daughters to separate from their father.

I am pretty certain Ayua is William and Miru's daughter, I don't think there's any hidden twist, there are plenty of plot twists to cover already. As much as I like theories, we're basing them all off the characters we've seen, and there will be more characters. We will see Elena Petrova at some point (in both games) and we will likely see Donna in SG. Most likely way down the track there will be some interaction with Sonya's parents/brother, and Nia's family will appear. We'll likely see NIka confront Mila's abuser. There's all the basketball teams from the other universities, there's Elsa's circle of people, Bella's racing circle. Melanie has yet to be seen in the presnt day. There will be a lot of characters that will be connected by circumstance rather than related.

Vanessa being William's daughter with Vanessa and Nick believing Vanessa is his daughter is super chad-level fuckery. Entirely possible. But given heterochromia isn't always genetic, Ocean can be throwing in an obvious red herring. Vanessa and Zara's mom can be someone entirely different we haven't seen. Could even have been someone at the bookclub. Leia is a likely choice from the people we know, but there's nothing saying that connection is there. But getting back to patreon issues - if Vanessa is Leia's daughter, Nika can't be related to William. Ocean's not dumb. For NIka to be related to William, the the same situation. Given Ayua keeps wanting Nika's dick pics, and is starting to show more sexy poses - if there is any lewd with Ayua, we basically have confirmation of who Nika's dad ISN'T (In which case William can be the father of all Wollust without any problems). Ocean's not going to play with fire when he was cautious to the point of censored dildos from Season 1 to bring the lewd content down to try for 16+.

 

[yossa999]

We will see Elena Petrova at some point

You don't have to wait too long to see her, here she is.

Oh, wrong Elena Petrova, here is the right one

Spoiler: Elena

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[BobTheDuck]

You don't have to wait too long to see her, here she is.
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Oh, wrong Elena Petrova, here is the right one

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Although having her look like Sasha works for the obvious reasons, I do think Ocean will develop a bit more of distinct look for her, especially considering she'll age into the golf club owner. This is very much Sasha beta 0.7, and like every WiaB character, I'm sure she'll get styled*. I also think we'll see her as the golf club owner in SG long before we see her in WiaB this time, but who knows?

*but I'd prefer polygon Elena to an upsized Elena

 

[LHDLLB]

I am pretty certain Ayua is William and Miru's daughter, I don't think there's any hidden twist, there are plenty of plot twists to cover already. As much as I like theories, we're basing them all off the characters we've seen, and there will be more characters. We will see Elena Petrova at some point (in both games) and we will likely see Donna in SG. Most likely way down the track there will be some interaction with Sonya's parents/brother, and Nia's family will appear. We'll likely see NIka confront Mila's abuser. There's all the basketball teams from the other universities, there's Elsa's circle of people, Bella's racing circle. Melanie has yet to be seen in the presnt day. There will be a lot of characters that will be connected by circumstance rather than related.

Vanessa being William's daughter with Vanessa and Nick believing Vanessa is his daughter is super chad-level fuckery. Entirely possible. But given heterochromia isn't always genetic, Ocean can be throwing in an obvious red herring. Vanessa and Zara's mom can be someone entirely different we haven't seen. Could even have been someone at the bookclub. Leia is a likely choice from the people we know, but there's nothing saying that connection is there. But getting back to patreon issues - if Vanessa is Leia's daughter, Nika can't be related to William. Ocean's not dumb. For NIka to be related to William, the the same situation. Given Ayua keeps wanting Nika's dick pics, and is starting to show more sexy poses - if there is any lewd with Ayua, we basically have confirmation of who Nika's dad ISN'T (In which case William can be the father of all Wollust without any problems). Ocean's not going to play with fire when he was cautious to the point of censored dildos from Season 1 to bring the lewd content down to try for 16+.

I also don't think that Leia as Vanessa mother fits well, herectomia or not. Regarding Nika's parent I agree, the problem that I see is that Auya is canonised William daughter - most likely- but characters like Sasha and the Rivera of the first team are in a limbo where they might be or not and I can't see how Ocean will handle that and be within TOS. If Nika is related to him anyway, if not there is no problem.

 

[Dr.Brule]

I have not been on this site in a very long time good to see this is still going. So my PC died and I have to rely on my phone and i tried downloading the android version (4.5 full) but it wont let me install it unless i give it access to all my phones info so naturally i deleted it and scrubbed it from my phone. What the shit is that all about? Is there another version I can download that doesn't want access to all my data? Thanks in advance.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I have not been on this site in a very long time good to see this is still going. So my PC died and I have to rely on my phone and i tried downloading the android version (4.5 full) but it wont let me install it unless i give it access to all my phones info so naturally i deleted it and scrubbed it from my phone. What the shit is that all about? Is there another version I can download that doesn't want access to all my data? Thanks in advance.

I'm not an android user, but this looks like the full season 1, with installed mods, and here is another one with different mods. 4.5 is two updates behind this. Can't help you with permissions, but more modern operating systems seem to require access simply to write save files.

Someone else who uses android will hopefully give you better advice.

 

[Holyx9]

Does anyone know what the next expected update from Ocean? Is it going to be SG or WIAB?

 

[Deleted member 7769805]

Does anyone know what the next expected update from Ocean? Is it going to be SG or WIAB?

Somewhere 2025/2026 probably...

 

[BobTheDuck]

Does anyone know what the next expected update from Ocean? Is it going to be SG or WIAB?

THere was a devlog posted in WiaB's thread today, and you can search this thread for the devlog her, it's every week, alternating between threads. That'll give you the best indication of how close Ocean is getting, rather than everyone's sarcasm about x+1 year's time.

 

[yossa999]

THere was a devlog posted in WiaB's thread today, and you can search this thread for the devlog her, it's every week, alternating between threads. That'll give you the best indication of how close Ocean is getting, rather than everyone's sarcasm about x+1 year's time.

Damn RL.
It seems that this sarcasm has already turned into a cancer that kills any intention of seriously speaking about anything in this thread.

 

[Deleted member 7769805]

THere was a devlog posted in WiaB's thread today, and you can search this thread for the devlog her, it's every week, alternating between threads. That'll give you the best indication of how close Ocean is getting, rather than everyone's sarcasm about x+1 year's time.

Okay lets see who is closer to being right...

 

[BobTheDuck]

Okay lets see who is closer to being right...

Well, I never said when I expected it. But considering Ocean is already over halfway through the renders for Ch1, and he's saying he only seriously got into the renders around May, he's already done over 2500 renders on SG and probably 1200 on WiaB It's entirely possible that he'll get all the static renders done by Christmas, and then deal with the post and extra animations.

So your bet is Jan 2025 - Dec 2026? That's incredibly non specific. My guess is it's unlikely before Christmas, but will likely be in the first quarter of next year.

If I'm right, you also win, if you're worst case is right, we both lose.

We might also both be right.

 

[Deleted member 7769805]

Well, I never said when I expected it. But considering Ocean is already over halfway through the renders for Ch1, and he's saying he only seriously got into the renders around May, he's already done over 2500 renders on SG and probably 1200 on WiaB It's entirely possible that he'll get all the static renders done by Christmas, and then deal with the post and extra animations.

So your bet is Jan 2025 - Dec 2026? That's incredibly non specific. My guess is it's unlikely before Christmas, but will likely be in the first quarter of next year.

If I'm right, you also win, if you're worst case is right, we both lose.

We might also both be right.

I hope so, I haven't seen a real update to the story for like a year now. I know there was an update, but it didn't fell like a continuation of the story, like adding a party with a whole lot of older people nobody cared about.

But when ever there is a new update, I probably replay the game from the start, because I slowly start to forget the storyline...

 

[BobTheDuck]

I hope so, I haven't seen a real update to the story for like a year now. I know there was an update, but it didn't fell like a continuation of the story, like adding a part with a whole lot of older people nobody cared about.

But when ever there is a new update, I probably replay the game from the start, because I slowly start to forget the storyline...

I'm personally hoping we'll get Wiab next, as it's got some fundamental stroy changes that'll tell us a lot about where SG is going. I don't think Ocean's going to try to repeat what he did last year in getting both releases done at the same time (then getting stalled by steam, almost endless rethinking). Because WiaB is intended as 18+ from the outset, steam should be much quicker, as Ocean's not trying to slip anything by them. Then OCean can focus on a solid SG release that reflects the changes he's made to the whole Wollust universe in WiaB, without needing to go back and adjust things.

At least I hope he thinks like that, purely on a pragmatic level.

 

[LHDLLB]

I'm personally hoping we'll get Wiab next, as it's got some fundamental stroy changes that'll tell us a lot about where SG is going. I don't think Ocean's going to try to repeat what he did last year in getting both releases done at the same time (then getting stalled by steam, almost endless rethinking). Because WiaB is intended as 18+ from the outset, steam should be much quicker, as Ocean's not trying to slip anything by them. Then OCean can focus on a solid SG release that reflects the changes he's made to the whole Wollust universe in WiaB, without needing to go back and adjust things.

At least I hope he thinks like that, purely on a pragmatic level.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think that WiaB chapter 4 can change in SG ? even Ocean bombshell did not change all that much, the stories are connected but so far so little that I can't see how a change in one can affect the other.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Just out of curiosity, what do you think that WiaB chapter 4 can change in SG ? even Ocean bombshell did not change all that much, the stories are connected but so far so little that I can't see how a change in one can affect the other.

It might change who is available as a LI for example. It hasn't affected that much because we haven't got either SG S2Ch1 or WiaB Ch4 yet. It'll also let us know if William and Leia are still going under the Zane name. If they were to have another surname, such as Cyrus (completely hypothetically) that would change things too. Until we know how Ocean is retconning the relationships in Wiab, it's hard to know how all the power structures in ZPR will be handled, and how everything fits together. What if William and Leia have nothing to do with ZPR, and Helen is the one on the board with Elena and Donna (assuming that those two are the reps for their familis)? There's all kinds of follow through effects that change how we percieve what's going on.

 

[LHDLLB]

It might change who is available as a LI for example. It hasn't affected that much because we haven't got either SG S2Ch1 or WiaB Ch4 yet. It'll also let us know if William and Leia are still going under the Zane name. If they were to have another surname, such as Cyrus (completely hypothetically) that would change things too. Until we know how Ocean is retconning the relationships in Wiab, it's hard to know how all the power structures in ZPR will be handled, and how everything fits together. What if William and Leia have nothing to do with ZPR, and Helen is the one on the board with Elena and Donna (assuming that those two are the reps for their familis)? There's all kinds of follow through effects that change how we percieve what's going on.

I get you now. Still do we really think that Ocean will change that much ? Not saying that it is impossible, you make really good points, I just don't know, don't seems the wisest of movements. Also will ch 1 advance the plot to the point that ch 4 can really change anything ? maybe for WiaB going by the last DevLog but SG... the plot still has to start.

Maybe I am running on copium, but I would wager that he would like to make the least impact on the story. I don't know if it will be a turning tables moment or just a reframing of the picture, but making crazy turns now really leaves a bad taste on my mounth. Still you make good points, we have to wait and see.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I get you now. Still do we really think that Ocean will change that much ? Not saying that it is impossible, you make really good points, I just don't know, don't seems the wisest of movements. Also will ch 1 advance the plot to the point that ch 4 can really change anything ? maybe for WiaB going by the last DevLog but SG... the plot still has to start.

Maybe I am running on copium, but I would wager that he would like to make the least impact on the story. I don't know if it will be a turning tables moment or just a reframing of the picture, but making crazy turns now really leaves a bad taste on my mounth. Still you make good points, we have to wait and see.

I think it will effectively be edits to the scripts, and mostly things in S2Ch1, which he's developing now. But, my experience is Ocean tends to overlook continuity errors (to be fair, it will be a massive task) when rushing to get something out, so I'd rather he makes certain of WiaB's script (whic will be smaller) before forgetting to correct Ayua's dialogue. I'm thinking most things that it'll affect are our perception, but it could be now that Katie is in the game and we see more of Ayua's family that it'll be very important to have the continuity sorted out, otherwise players will get confused.