Ren'Py Abandoned The Things We Do For Love [Ep. 1-2] [DSeductionGames]

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The choices directly before the Patreon Bonus scene was top kek. Keep up the good work.

Edit: Sorry to hear about the issues Darth. Best of luck overcoming irrelevant of what happens with the game.
The story line was feel good and almost touching then bam the Patreon Bonus turned it nasty. Hopefully there is an update soon and I hope there's also optional (cause not everyone likes it...) ntr content for Colbie. Plus if the setting is in big city LA does that hint at any interracial content as well?
 

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Wow, you're free to fuck off.

You don't know shit about me. Don't talk as if you have any idea what's going on in my life. Seriously. If that's what you got, I don't want you to want to play my projects. Fuck off.
Nice to see the dev coming back here to talk about the game's development and his plans for the future. Same in Seraphim Academy thread :)
 
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Nice to see the dev coming back here to talk about the game's development and his plans for the future. Same in Seraphim Academy thread :)
I can't talk about SA, I wasn't alone on that one. I'm not stepping on toes. However, TTWDFL is mine. I will resume when I'm able. Currently, due to several mental health issues I'm not. So, I say again, if you're here to assume you A) Have some right to my time, B) Know anything about my life, and C) to be a complete condescending jackass, you can fuck off. I don't need nor want your abuse.
 

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I can't talk about SA, I wasn't alone on that one. I'm not stepping on toes. However, TTWDFL is mine. I will resume when I'm able. Currently, due to several mental health issues I'm not. So, I say again, if you're here to assume you A) Have some right to my time, B) Know anything about my life, and C) to be a complete condescending jackass, you can fuck off. I don't need nor want your abuse.
Not here to judge about your issues man. Mental health is important and you should take as much time as you need to recover.
That being said, decency would suggest you pause your patreon in the process. Taking money from people paying for your art while you're not working on said art is questionnable at best.

Good luck with your health. I wish you some stability and happiness.
 
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I can't talk about SA, I wasn't alone on that one. I'm not stepping on toes. However, TTWDFL is mine. I will resume when I'm able. Currently, due to several mental health issues I'm not. So, I say again, if you're here to assume you A) Have some right to my time, B) Know anything about my life, and C) to be a complete condescending jackass, you can fuck off. I don't need nor want your abuse.
Sorry to hear about your mental health issues. Hope you overcome them all. Obviously that's more important than the development of your games.
Still, I'm happy to hear you'll resume TTWDFL I really like what you currently have going and looking forward to what's next.
Good luck with everything!
 

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The tone with which the author wants us to watch his incest gay rape scene for "plot" is hilarious, as if a decent storyline in a porn 3D visual novel required a very serious, dramatic, gruesome and vile kick off - and you have to interact with it, because the author wants it so.

If this had been approached in terms of "Please be warned, this game contains content relating to rape, incest and male-on-male content as part of the plot. All other content is avoidable. Thank you.", I would have given it the benefit of the doubt even though there's no reason for such being in the game beyond the author's own male rape fantasies. Ok, it's in the game, I was warned, let's check it out.

Now being told "yes it has shock content, no I'm not cutting that part off, deal with it sweetie and here's a Karen meme" is being presumptuous and overly confident about your game. Either way, it's on update 2 and it's already 1574015180115.png , so I guess I'm not missing out on much.

"Don't like it, don't play it"? Fine by me. :BootyTime:

EDIT: I just noticed the author's posts above, and today no less. More aggression. Overwhelmed? Fatigued? Depressed? Frustrated? All a series of very serious conditions that require being addressed to, hopefully by a professional.

Bashing your fans is not addressing the situation.
 

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"Don't like it, don't play it"? Fine by me. :BootyTime:
Is it though? Every word of your post drips with entitlement.

The tone with which the author wants us to watch his incest gay rape scene for "plot" is hilarious, as if a decent storyline in a porn 3D visual novel required a very serious, dramatic, gruesome and vile kick off - and you have to interact with it, because the author wants it so.
You don't have to interact with it at all, unless you want to play my game, and then yes, the content is relevant. This is not porn. Yes, it has pornographic imagery, but it is nonetheless erotica, a plot driven, narrative based story with porn in it, not porn for the sake of porn. If that's not what you're looking for that's fine. Move on. But no, you had to comment on it as if you were entitled to me making something you wanted to play.

If this had been approached in terms of "Please be warned, this game contains content relating to rape, incest and male-on-male content as part of the plot. All other content is avoidable. Thank you.", I would have given it the benefit of the doubt
You weren't here when the game launched, clearly. Had you been, that is the message you would have been met with. The changes and vitriol are a result of abuse from people like you who had all the same problems you do, that you reveal -

even though there's no reason for such being in the game beyond the author's own male rape fantasies.
This makes me assume you haven't actually played it at all. If you have you're very clearly not acting honestly with this. There's an option that eliminates the imagery and only has the story. More to the point, as it acts as the driving motivation for the entire plot, not having it at all means you're missing that plot. Again, you're coming at this looking for a fap and not a story, fine, not for you, move on. But you decided to engage, to critique, and to engage in slanderous bullshit because your fragile masculinity can't handle being challenged.

Now being told "yes it has shock content, no I'm not cutting that part off, deal with it sweetie and here's a Karen meme" is being presumptuous and overly confident about your game. Either way, it's on update 2 and it's already
1574015180115.png
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, so I guess I'm not missing out on much.
And here's the entitlement in full swing. You believe that I need to cater to you. That my artistic expression only has value if you deem it to. It's not about you. I don't do this for your approval. I do this because I had a story to tell. I'm not telling your story, I'm telling mine. I'm not Disney. I'm not making content that is audience tested and completely numbers driven. The fact that you think I should is hilarious, because after reading your comment I can see you bitching about hollywood being full of sjw this or that, not understanding that it's there for exactly the reason you think I should cater to you.

I just noticed the author's posts above, and today no less. More aggression. Overwhelmed? Fatigued? Depressed? Frustrated? All a series of very serious conditions that require being addressed to, hopefully by a professional.

Bashing your fans is not addressing the situation.
You know what really doesn't address the situation? Adding to the stress of my life by acting as if you're entitled to that very life. As if I need to cater to you and your desires, putting out content for you to consume in a time frame you approve of. If you don't get why that would make a person angry, why it would make them react as I have, then you're an emotional retard. Go learn some empathy. You need it.
 

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The amount of entitlement I see from some people on this site never cease to amaze me.
Developers work their asses off, give their stuff away for free (or have it blatantly stolen) and some people keep shoving their opinions up in our faces while claiming to be "fans".
Don't like a game? Fine, you don't have to play it, you don't have to discuss it here.
Think the dev takes too much time between releases? Fine, create your own game in the meantime.
Don't have a certain fetish? Fine, go play another game.

You may very well start your own thread where you can be barfing out your hate (or you'll be crying about "free speech"), but please leave the games' threads as a forum for discussion between those who make games, and those who enjoy them.

To DarthSeduction I just want to say: nice to see you back, sorry that it wasn't more welcoming.
I've been missing you.
 

kotte

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Another classic is "The Dev is robbing us on Patreon".
It's not like they are coming into you mother's basement, stealing money from you pockets, it's actually quite easy to quit being a patron.
I like to have the opportunity to continue supporting a game that I like, even while it is not being actively developed.
With this game for example, I am one of the 16 people who still hang around, and that is very much by my own free will.

I totally understand that many might have a smaller budget, but as I said, it's really easy to change your patronage.
 
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Nice to see the dev back, hope he gets healthy and releases a new update eventually, I really like the storytelling and creativity of this game, it has the potential to be one of the best games around here. I really think this is a masterpiece in the making, but take your time, personal life and health should always be priority.
 
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Another classic is "The Dev is robbing us on Patreon".
It's not like they are coming into you mother's basement, stealing money from you pockets, it's actually quite easy to quit being a patron.
I like to have the opportunity to continue supporting a game that I like, even while it is not being actively developed.
With this game for example, I am one of the 16 people who still hang around, and that is very much by my own free will.

I totally understand that many might have a smaller budget, but as I said, it's really easy to change your patronage.
Though I'm fully aware of how easy it is to change a patreon status on the patron part, I'm only wondering what brings a creator who's in pause to not pause his side of the deal.
''Come to our restaurant but pay us for empty plates, for now''

I patronize plenty a lot of games, most of them only by just a few dollars, and I rise when I appreciate the content. I try to contribute to plenty of creators because I believe it's good for the industry. I know I'm not the only one who does this, and I know I'm not the only one who tends to lose sight of all the different devs I pay. I think it's just good practice to not ask for money when you're not creating.

I'm not saying DarthSeduction is a robber or a thief or anything. Far from it. The guy's an artist and a damn good one.
I'm just saying that he shouldn't be claiming money if he's openly not working on the game.
I mean, even Icstor paused his page when he went in a rough patch..
 
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