VN Ren'Py Completed My Sister, My Roommate [v1.69] [Sumodeine]

[BoltonGuy35]

I agree with alot of these comments that are against the criticism that is being put out there about the hard work Sumo has done in rewriting this VN. I will hold my hands up and admit I was very disappointed in the ending of the original version but 100% respect to the guy for holding his hands up and admitting he was mistaken. I love the light hearted humorous dig/joke to himself during the christmas movie scene. And look forward to more of Sumo's work in the future. So a big 's up from me.

 

[Psycroptic]

Time to do another playthrough.

 

[LostSentience]

I do not believe it. All of this negative reactions make me speechless.
Excuse me but. If you are upset because the ending. I am upset when i read this.
Is unbelievable! How do you think you are. In a McDo for your fetish? Just ask Sumodine your fetish for he give it to you for free automatically? Have few people with really clean belly buttons here. How are is creative liberty?
I'm speechless in front of this inacceptable selfishing.
I'm clearly angry! I have, probably, take time to calm down before write this message. But this burning me.
This is why in conclude this message. With giving all my deepest apology if i would people do not deserve it. Is not what i search. Is not the first time i am witness of this king child attitude. We have the right to not agree but have way to do it too. And i'm the first having this obligation to be respectful with other.

Yep yep, we all sure can see you are properly angry. Tho i have no objections to troll a dev for just a bit, he did the update and all, and expansions for all endings was pretty nice, but taking jabs part been a bit too lengthy so if pips are paying with the same coin, i don't mind

 

[magus448]

My saves are not working for windows. Any tips how should i make them work? or should i start from scratch?

Your supposed to start the new version from a save from before Ashley get arrested, so any save afterward may be unusable. Unless for some reason they aren't working that far back as well.

 

[Siphon]

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Wow, he's still so fucking salty about his own writing. Dude doesn't seem to be mature enough to make these kinds of games.

 

[Rythan25]

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You realize that scene was there from the first time the game ended right ? so he didnt get salty after he had to release the new patch... he was already a bit upset from months of "we want Nikki" clamoring from everyone...

well except that one salty poster that gate-keeps every single thread and hates anyone that disagrees with her opinion, and fights tooth and nail to keep most games the way old japanese eroge are (one girl per route... EWWWW).

 

[MrDL]

When she was still his sister without needing a patch I think it was fine if Taylor and Nikki being together was off the table but when she just became his best friend and stuff that came after I think that plan should've changed, didn't care for the whole Molly or no one thing either, Molly was also dragged out far too long, should've been somewhere like in the middle where your actions mean more and also influence Molly's path to a greater degree. College freshmen getting into a monogamous relationship and married is kind of boring. Besides that, everyone knows those sheltered types like Molly are often the ones who end up doing the craziest shit in college.

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I found it funny. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

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or, merely an attempt to troll us-nothing more.

 

[Amnios]

Because it's his first game and he didn't know what he was doing?
Because he got locked into his original vision, and didn't expand it until the first time the game was done?

maybe I’m being unfair here, but it doesn’t take long to work out what people are going to expect when you look at every other “my sister” game, that the primary goal in them is to be with the sister.

 

[EZ8lt]

Eh, don't see the salt honestly. More him poking fun at himself. But can see how it would be taken that way. So it is known and he has said so himself, Sumo was hit pretty hard by the reaction, that much is true. He never expected the level of hate he got, which was more than people realize. But if he was really salty about it he would have just dropped the game and moved on. Sumo has done the fourth wall breaks a bunch before, and that conversation isn't particularly special or do you think he was actually calling incest fans weirdos during Truth or Dare with the patch?
The original concept of the game was to basically have your sister be your wingman, and help Taylor come into his own. Thing is as the story went on Nikki took on a life of her own. Sumo didn't really account for that, and said as much. He wrote endings for the story he started but not the one that was written.

It was also rushed, which isn't uncommon either. Hell, in this space rushed endings are the norm and not the exception.

What is uncommon is going back and fixing things and being able to take a step back. Damn near no one does that in this space, several high profile games have treated criticism worse, far, far worse. And even if he was salty, which I very much doubt he is, he still took his lumps and made a better product. So I don't see the point of getting on him over it.

Exactly because of that patreon post, and seeing how it affected him, reading that lines were rather salty, than being self-comedic.

Sure he could've just moved on, but he was also in a no-win situation. Either he moves, and gets the shit reputation for good, making his future endeavor as a crowdfunded developer much harder, or he decides to clean up the shitstorm as much as he can. Don't get me wrong, the fact that he manned up, admitted his screw up, and made the fix is something I respect deeply. But it's also something that was a must to do, rather than a should do. This also adds to that feeling I mentioned.

It's not something I'd ride his ass for, just how it felt, and I do feel it should've been left out of the game, and not let it create yet another opening to attack him in a frisky situation anyway. Just like the political statement caused a before, it feels like he repeated the same mistake.

 

[acewinz]

Played a few routes of the new update. I'm fairly content now so GJ Sumodeine!

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[Bucketbot89]

Is there a Skylar ending?

 

[micojive]

This update screams like someone who watched there patreon numbers drop since the last ending pissed so many people off and needs to find a way to save face in the community. I think this is a far better end to the game, but still think he did a lot of people dirty with how he ended it the first time.

 

[geenius3ab]

I honestly think that SOME of the reactions Sumo got were deserved.
Let's be honest. His story wasn't good, him avoiding the storylines people wanted (and likely paid him for) was ridiculous. Sure, if his description had a note that "In this game, while there are taboo aspects, don't expect to get on with your family", then he could've had a reason to be pissed off at the "entitled haters", but as far as I saw, that was not the case.

Sumo went through so much trouble to set up taboo situations, it was clear that the sister also had a craving for the MC, but not having a payoff is basically like turning you into a cuckold. Sure, it may not an issue for some, but it's niche even for this forum.. I'd say that traps might be a lot more popular than cuckolds on this forum, but just the point was that it's a very specific niche to cockblock the whole taboo side in a story that seems to obviously be heading into the taboo destination. People here do tend to enjoy their porn games, and if you try to ram us in the ass with that "twist", try and lube us up first.

Hence it was horrendous situation of overpromises and under delivering.

I don't think there were too many "death threats" or harassment campaigns going on against him. Don't think I saw a "Change.org" petition either, so I think that the harassment wasn't as bad as some people seem to try and claim.

I think Sumo might've got a good wake up call here, and maybe he will know how to set better expectations in the future. As someone who makes content on the internet, hearing "feedback" (Or well, angry comments) is something you will learn how to deal with. You can shut them out and maybe still be successful, or maybe you might be able to improve in setting expectations (or maybe craft your story in a way that the angry ppl wouldn't be so angry). I think that this update was a step in the right direction.

Anyway, this was an interesting thread to read.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

I don't think there were too many "death threats" or harassment campaigns going on against him. Don't think I saw a "Change.org" petition either, so I think that the harassment wasn't as bad as some people seem to try and claim.

The only mention of death threats in this thread is from you. I mentioned he got a lot of hate, which he did, people still seem to be sore about the original endings, and hey no way to make another first impression, so I get it. But the discussion isn't on how things are better or worse, it's still talking about the stuff that isn't even in the game anymore.

Maybe it's me but I am surprised that there is more discussion about endings that are no longer part of the game than the actual endings that have been added, how the rushing to the finale is no longer a problem, how there are choices with the MC about more than just Nikki, about how the entire early part of the game was redone with better graphics, none of that.

And the whole "had to" argument doesn't make sense, or that he just dropped this to shut people up. This is a MASSIVE update, bigger than any other he has done, he could have easily done a quick Nikki ending in a couple of weeks, but he did more than that, a lot more. Would it have been better if this was what was released initially? Sure. But that's not saying a thing about the new content.

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

The only mention of death threats in this thread is from you. I mentioned he got a lot of hate, which he did, people still seem to be sore about the original endings, and hey no way to make another first impression, so I get it. But the discussion isn't on how things are better or worse, it's still talking about the stuff that isn't even in the game anymore.

Maybe it's me but I am surprised that there is more discussion about endings that are no longer part of the game than the actual endings that have been added, how the rushing to the finale is no longer a problem, how there are choices with the MC about more than just Nikki, about how the entire early part of the game was redone with better graphics, none of that.

And the whole "had to" argument doesn't make sense, or that he just dropped this to shut people up. This is a MASSIVE update, bigger than any other he has done, he could have easily done a quick Nikki ending in a couple of weeks, but he did more than that, a lot more. Would it have been better if this was what was released initially? Sure. But that's not saying a thing about the new content.

as a hard critic-i have to agree...though, maybe harder out of aggravation for the gatekeepers i had to deal with.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

Sure, if his description had a note that "In this game, while there are taboo aspects, don't expect to get on with your family", then he could've had a reason to be pissed off at the "entitled haters", but as far as I saw, that was not the case.

Did you even read the thread? I mean, I remember Sumo explaining over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that Sister Dearest would not be endgame. I mean people could have felt free reading that, accepting it and moving on instead of throwing temper tantrums.

 

[strfb]

Has there been anybody new content added with the mom?

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

Has there been anybody new content added with the mom?

Nope. No mom content, you have to be content with Solanin.

 

[AlphaOmegaWolf]

Did you even read the thread? I mean, I remember Sumo explaining over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that Sister Dearest would not be endgame. I mean people could have felt free reading that, accepting it and moving on instead of throwing temper tantrums.

but that would reqiure people to use their brains and act mature....something most people don't know how to do or refuse to do