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The thing is, I remember having read somewhere* that it wasn't just an issue of graphic cards but of entire rig that needs replacement. I mean, what good would a Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti do if the computer it's attached to cannot even use it? It would be like adding a nuclear reactor to wheelbarrow :x

*is not a stalker, is not a stalker*
Actually it was a Titan RTX they were saying... over twice the price of an RTX 2080Ti - slightly fewer CUDA cores, but 24GB RAM rather than 11GB
 

I'm Not Thea Lundgren!

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I've actually gone from 8go tp 32go, and I can attest that it allows for more liberties when posing the scenes. Still doesn't seem to be enough, though, as my computer seriously lags when trying complex things :x
It's the video RAM that's the important part! Hence why a 24GB card with fewer CUDA cores is faster than an 11GB card with more.
 

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It's the video RAM that's the important part! Hence why a 24GB card with fewer CUDA cores is faster than an 11GB card with more.
Hmm. I guess I should change my nickname to John Snow I know nothing
Anyway, the leap from an AMD Radeon R9 280X 3Go to an RTX 2060 6Go did wonders already. And as was stated in this here thread, Notty's new card also made chapter 3 leagues ahead chapters 1&2 in term of graphics :)
 

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Hmm. I guess I should change my nickname to John Snow I know nothing
Anyway, the leap from an AMD Radeon R9 280X 3Go to an RTX 2060 6Go did wonders already. And as was stated in this here thread, Notty's new card also made chapter 3 leagues ahead chapters 1&2 in term of graphics :)
In all seriousness. The breakdown for speed for renderers are 3 things. RAM both on the GPU and on the PC itself, loading a whole multi gigabyte image instantly between them increases the speed dramatically, then comes RTX/RT/Iray, light tracing, then finally speed aka processing power to power through all the info. So in the end Grab the highest ram values/amount you can, then either RTX on nvidia or just the drivers on AMD, and finally the beefiest card with all those in your price point.
 

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In all seriousness. The breakdown for speed for renderers are 3 things. RAM both on the GPU and on the PC itself, loading a whole multi gigabyte image instantly between them increases the speed dramatically, then comes RTX/RT/Iray, light tracing, then finally speed aka processing power to power through all the info. So in the end Grab the highest ram values/amount you can, then either RTX on nvidia or just the drivers on AMD, and finally the beefiest card with all those in your price point.
So something like this then?

Yes, why that is 1TB of RAM and yes it is 96GB of VRAM with 44 CPU Cores and 40TB of SSD Storage
 

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There's a small, but pretty interesting over at the DAZ forums. It's interesting, because each piece of software performs differently for a graphicscard. Actually, each Daz Studio scene will perform differently on a given graphicscard as well. But, benchmarks, especially for the specific piece of software you intend to use, do give some crude idea how a GPU performs, and how that performance translates to the price of the GPU.

For example, those RTX Titans render a scene about 15% faster than an RTX2080Ti. But, their pricetag is more than 100% higher. Which brings me to the conclusion that unless I desperately needed the 24GB of memory from the Titan, or won a few million in the lottery, the Titan would be an extremely inefficient waste of money to me.
I settled on the RTX 2070 (pre-super) a while back myself. If I had had a bigger budget, I would've totally gone for the 2080Ti, since, with large scenes, I do have to be cautious about the 8GB of memory on my GPU, and 11GB would definitely make that a bit easier. But when I only take renderspeed and the cost of the videocard into consideration, my 2070 does beat the 2080Ti.

So, in my opinion, it is worth considering what features you need (memory & renderspeed), and figure out how much a benefit is going to cost. I could make 24GB scenes, warranting a Titan, but those are not the scenes I am generally interested in making, so the 24 GB benefit is not be a consideration to me. Which leaves render speed and price. A 15% increase in renderspeed at double the cost? That's soo not an option to me.

The 80% renderspeed increase at double the cost for taking a 2080Ti instead of a 2070 alone is a much closer consideration, and I do occasionally go over that 8GB limit of my 2070 (which means I have to spend time tweaking textures and lights, hiding more assets that are out of scene, etc.), making the 2080Ti with 11GB indeed twice as useful for my purposes.

So, it's personal, but it is definitely worth it to consider the options, and think through what features you need and which features you probably won't ever use.
 

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There's a small, but pretty interesting over at the DAZ forums. It's interesting, because each piece of software performs differently for a graphicscard. Actually, each Daz Studio scene will perform differently on a given graphicscard as well. But, benchmarks, especially for the specific piece of software you intend to use, do give some crude idea how a GPU performs, and how that performance translates to the price of the GPU.

For example, those RTX Titans render a scene about 15% faster than an RTX2080Ti. But, their pricetag is more than 100% higher. Which brings me to the conclusion that unless I desperately needed the 24GB of memory from the Titan, or won a few million in the lottery, the Titan would be an extremely inefficient waste of money to me.
I settled on the RTX 2070 (pre-super) a while back myself. If I had had a bigger budget, I would've totally gone for the 2080Ti, since, with large scenes, I do have to be cautious about the 8GB of memory on my GPU, and 11GB would definitely make that a bit easier. But when I only take renderspeed and the cost of the videocard into consideration, my 2070 does beat the 2080Ti.

So, in my opinion, it is worth considering what features you need (memory & renderspeed), and figure out how much a benefit is going to cost. I could make 24GB scenes, warranting a Titan, but those are not the scenes I am generally interested in making, so the 24 GB benefit is not be a consideration to me. Which leaves render speed and price. A 15% increase in renderspeed at double the cost? That's soo not an option to me.

The 80% renderspeed increase at double the cost for taking a 2080Ti instead of a 2070 alone is a much closer consideration, and I do occasionally go over that 8GB limit of my 2070 (which means I have to spend time tweaking textures and lights, hiding more assets that are out of scene, etc.), making the 2080Ti with 11GB indeed twice as useful for my purposes.

So, it's personal, but it is definitely worth it to consider the options, and think through what features you need and which features you probably won't ever use.
You can get one of the NVidia pro cards for around the same price as the 2080ti and they have 16GB VRAM, so would be a much better investment. I only mentioned the Titan RTX, because it's overkill, you'll not need to upgrade for quite a while. :)
 
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You can get one of the NVidia pro cards for around the same price as the 2080ti and they have 16GB VRAM, so would be a much better investment. I only mentioned the Titan RTX, because it's overkill, you'll not need to upgrade for quite a while. :)
So... what's the shipping to Ophion like? Maybe I could get started on the graphics for my little game while I'm in exile. :p
 

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Darling! I'm shocked! Yes, you may well know but I always had you down as being discrete...
I trust the boys not to say anything. Nobody ever pays attention to us anyway.

I mean, it's not like we ever say anything people want to read it's usually only small talk about your boobs, my boobs, you being wet, that making me wet and things that vibrate.

Who wants to read that stuff, amirite?
 

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*did I just age shame younger people?*
AGIST!!! :ROFLMAO:
Another thing to go along with what Ava has said is that this thread is almost all about the game (sometimes we go off on tangents, but we always bring it back) and unlike a lot of threads with maybe 2-3 times the posts is that we've so far only had one person asking for the stuff that gets asked every other post elsewhere (walkthrough? updates? compressed?)
And like I mention when we get compared to BaDIK, at least there is almost no 'this is the best girl, wanna fight about it?' nonsense.
I wouldn't call shooting the spider as trigger-happy.;)
No, it's if you don't go in the cave ....what am I thinking? Who would do that? :sneaky:
There was something triggering me that made me happy, though :D
That wasn't your gun you were firing though, and Sarah needed to be cleaned up after!
*tries her own attempt*

  • Notty has boobs
  • Someone is Thea Lundgren
  • Sarah is lovely!
  • Ooooo! A new render
  • Notty just teased us with something we missed!
  • We missed something else too. Arse.
  • Blogs is on his ninth play through and still can't find these new things.
  • Notty cackles.
  • There's a render of something horrid happening to Sarah. Why? Will this happen?
  • News about new update.
  • Progress news.
  • There's a silly render just for us!
  • Someone new found the game.
  • Notty still has boobs.
What? No wiggles?
Hrm........

Wonder if I went too far on the fauna. After all you've only met one type....
Well, the MC only met one, but we know of at least two now (spiders and LGM).
Interesting dev note here btw, and I'm surprised no one has queried it. Why the cave only with Sarah?

Well, firstly Chris is far too sensible to go off route and so no doubt saw it - and just moved on.

Sarah tho....she plays VR games. If you've played any open world games and you come across a cave....well, you go in don't you? :)
Never tried going with Chris... :sneaky:

Is this some symbolism about perverts going into caves?
I think the thing for me about this thread is that it reminds me of what the internet was like in the nineties and maybe even early 2000's.
Many of us here were on the net back then and before... :unsure::whistle:
About your Yandere vibes, my theory is that the MC was abducted by Becca and is held in her basement ( a clue given by the basement location in the tutorial)

Are you a snakeoil merchant ?
So, the rest of the game, is just an elaborate Matrix-like VR game?!?!?! /mind blown! :ROFLMAO:
Let's not be pervs now!
Showers are nothing unusual, just because there's no shower peeping in the game, that doesn't mean regular showers aren't needed...
Yeah! You need special renders for that sort of thing around here, Buddy!

...I'm not your buddy, Guy!
...I'm not your guy, Friend!
...I'm not your friend, Buddy!
First 100 pages:

TLDR: Much funny bussiness, sillines and lewdness also some:

Notty renders not to be missed :love: None of these might ever get into the game though:
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1433299 Not Notty but still nice:p
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1433528
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1437414
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1447373
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1455494
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1461926
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1477069
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1481054
https://f95zone.to/threads/daz3d-art-show-us-your-dazskill.4764/post-1486150
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1486268
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1490034
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1488124 Notorious one :p
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1505202
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1505475
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https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/reply?quote=1506531
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https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1517684
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1519214
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https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1523823
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1524165
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1524792
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1525995
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1527448
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1536008
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1538527
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1538532


Notty remarks about the game, do be aware though she is an innocent saint she sometimes misbehaves, glares, cackles, tempts and will take some liberties with the truth if she thinks it is warranted:p:
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1432429
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1432813
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1432993
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1433317
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1435761
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1436245
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1451081
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1451241
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1466811
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1472518
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1475787
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1476738
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1478927
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1479524
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1480171
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1486969
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1503236
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1508461
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1510005
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1510999
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1511102
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1519085
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1522630
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1528128
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1529336
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1530463
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https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1545755
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1545847


Some sleuthing by members of this thread:
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1466479
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1467598
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1470917
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1476684
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1510590
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1518564
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1534229
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1520576
https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-3-v1-2-nottravis.23184/post-1540655
Someone needs to 'pin' that post!
I wouldn't have it between my boobs if I had....
Didn't really figure...
The thing is, I remember having read somewhere* that it wasn't just an issue of graphic cards but of entire rig that needs replacement. I mean, what good would a Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti do if the computer it's attached to cannot even use it? It would be like adding a nuclear reactor to wheelbarrow :x

*is not a stalker, is not a stalker*
The hamsters can barely turn the wheel with all that attached to it as it is!!! :LOL:
From what I understand RAM is more important for bigger or more complex renders; you can fit more in.
It's the video RAM that's the important part! Hence why a 24GB card with fewer CUDA cores is faster than an 11GB card with more.
In my experience, you have two major factors aside from general processing power, you have the system ram, which is needed to set up the scene, and prepare it to be rendered (that time between hitting the render button and stuff actually appearing on the screen), then you have your GPU ram and power that will actually do most of the actual rendering.

I have 32gig ddr4 ram, and when I try to render a scene with usually 3 or more (complex) people in it (especially when there is a lot of dForce in there, or hair), there can be a huge lag, and my ram gets filled just trying to prep the scene for rendering, and in the beta at least, sometimes that could get stuck in memory for a while, lagging the whole system out in the meantime (occasionally I would even have to reboot).
We're gonna put it on a giant mouse trap to try and capture Thea Lundgren.

Dont worry, its non-lethal. Not that Thea Lundgren can be killed.
I am now waiting to see who is the first person to change their name to "The Immortal Thea Lundgren'!
 
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