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DillyDubzee

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Aug 5, 2019
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Not a specialist by any means as i am constantly asking for advice but i can give my day 28 info to compare. (i was reaaaaly trying to be as optimal as i can be with my lame skills)
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Yeah I feel like you're ahead of me on that. Honestly I feel like the game becomes very easy once you know what you're doing. Like I can break up to T3 no problem now i Think. This isn't a complaint btw, its like sorting out a puzzle and i dig that
 

Ragsmu

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May 22, 2018
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Yeah I feel like you're ahead of me on that. Honestly I feel like the game becomes very easy once you know what you're doing. Like I can break up to T3 no problem now i Think. This isn't a complaint btw, its like sorting out a puzzle and i dig that
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at this point i need to start figuring out t4, since with next turn t3 willbe done.

Also sitting on 400 EE at this point. not sure what to buy since defiler etc upgrades are not realy useful. and i have no real need for more turns right now.
 

haksaw

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Oct 10, 2019
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Honestly I feel like the game becomes very easy once you know what you're doing.
Depends on what you call easy. Sure, beating the loop is not that hard, doing it as fast as possible is still requires a lot of planning, also distortions is somewhat of a hard mode. I'm planning to make 2 distorted chosens at once for a change to see how it goes. I managed to push one chosen to give me 2EE at day five which is nice and now at day 10 I have another one giving me 5EE already and also 5EE commander is ready to go. Going all right. Looks like Networked Consciousness will be at day 12 unless I pull something cool to get it next day.
 
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Ragsmu

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May 22, 2018
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Depends on what you call easy. Sure, beating the loop is not that hard, doing it as fast as possible is still requires a lot of planning, also distortions is somewhat of a hard mode. I'm planning to make 2 distorted chosens at once for a change to see how it goes. I managed to push one chosen to give me 2EE at day five which is nice and now at day 10 I have another one giving me 5EE already and also 5EE commander is ready to go. Going all right.
What about T4 breaks? do i just spam orgies? or what's the best method to raise percentage?
 

haksaw

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Oct 10, 2019
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does girl needs all her significant t4 pre broken to get lvl 10 Pain from 1 commander?
You will get lvl 4-5 just from initial capture. You need to surround her 2 more times, that's usually enough. She will be flying at that point, but who cares.
 

Ragsmu

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May 22, 2018
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You will get lvl 4-5 just from initial capture. You need to surround her 2 more times, that's usually enough. She will be flying at that point, but who cares.
yea, so far managing 600% at best per run. a bit short of what i would have wanted, also she is not flying after 2 surrounds. XD


Edit: Anyways, day 39.
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SuperSkippy

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Oct 25, 2017
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at this point i need to start figuring out t4, since with next turn t3 willbe done.

Also sitting on 400 EE at this point. not sure what to buy since defiler etc upgrades are not realy useful. and i have no real need for more turns right now.
There are two distinct things happening with T4:
T4 CON needs some sort of specialized commander, and I usually aim to break this first because CON breaks are so useful on everyone. The key thing to remember with this is that the % goes up based on the new INJU level. So you need:
1) A commander with an odd number of captures (even# is just wasted to Detonate), that
2) deals lots of INJU damage quickly, but
3) doesn't waste turns building up to an INJU level that's just going to be Detonated away.

I have found that this is easily done with a Drain commander, 3 or 5 captures (usually 3), and I just play around with the number of turns until I find the minimum number of turns to get INJU to whatever max level the commander can manage on his own in the first capture. Usually this is 4-5 turns?

The best methodology I have found assuming relevant upgrades is: start with the target girl ambushed, use Barrier those first few turns. Immediately surround (not capture) her again and start dealing HATE and EXPO, then pick on another girl with your basic attacks, aiming for something simple like a 2-turn surround. Surround the other girl with the focus on dealing EXPO damage (maybe you get to level 2, maybe just level 1). Then turn back around and capture the first girl causing her to explode again.

What about T4 breaks? do i just spam orgies? or what's the best method to raise percentage?
For the other 3 breaks, get an Orgy off before Extermination is done. Then surround one at a time. Deal damage to the one surrounded until one of the others uses Striptease, then throw basic attacks at whatever the highest multiplier is on the girls that aren't surrounded. Repeat with the other 2. If you're having trouble getting the Orgy done in those turns, a specialized commander can help: CON defiler with either LUST or HATE suppressor and 5 captures (if everyone has T3 CON broken). Turns don't have to be very high but turns are pretty cheap for EE--you mainly want to capture all 3 quickly so turns need to be low enough that you can then surround them again afterwards before Extermination catches up with you.
 
Jun 20, 2017
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I think it's just a misunderstanding, it's not cumulative like total amount of surround turns over the course of the battle, it means in that moment.

ie. If you surround or capture Axiom and she has 5 turns left of being surrounded, you can "retreat" ending the battle early and getting 1 free EE.

-Surrounding Axiom and she has 10 turns left and you retreat you'd get 2 EE

-Surounding Axiom and Prayer at the same time and they both have 5 turns left you will get 2 EE for retreating

like this kind of way, hope it helps and your first loop goes well! :D
OOOOOH that makes more sense
 
Aug 4, 2020
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I've decided to wade through the thread and find all posted portrait packs. Perhaps put them in the OP?

I've ordered them by level of recommendation I'd give them.

If any of the links don't work, send me a message.
I've created a backup in case any of the links go down.



InfiniteSquares
Collected images (Gelbooru)
1 Portrait set for Helena from Azur Lane
1 Portrait set for Raiden from Honkai Impact
Details
1 Portrait set for Prinz Eugen from Azur Lane
1 Portrait set for Illustrious from Azur Lane
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1 Portrait set for Perseus from Azure Lane
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1 Portrait set for Jeanne D'arc from Fate
1 Portrait set for Consort from Fate
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activspam
These have the same name as existing Chosen, but you can rename them to create new ones
Generated with
Portrait set Shadow
Portrait set Oracle
Portrait set Moppet
Details
Portrait set picrew
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krustus
With picrew
Stylistically consistent
26 Portrait sets
Details

Kalloi (formerly known as @rizldiz3l)
Handmade full conversion portrait mod
Stylistically consistent and complete
Complete Portrait conversion (325 MB) (More images, more optimized)
Complete Portrait conversion light (439 MB)
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Karnewarrior
Cropped fanart
3 Portrait sets from Meguca
Details
3 Portrait sets Yuna, Fuu, and Togo
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BreezeIndigo
Generated with artbreed
1 Portrait set
Details


"Details" is for the OP where the portraits were posted.

And a thanks to CSdev for making this great game and Kalloi who's posts made this collection quite a bit easier.
Considering how many there are it could be a good idea to create a post in the Mod section of the forum from them
 
Jul 14, 2018
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Okay so I didn't know that some of the characters had the same portraits as others. That's slightly disappointing. I had to add a new set to replace a current one. Here have a newly made portrait pack, one based on Rem from re zero.

Rem.zip

Includes forsaken images.
regular.png
forsaken.png

Edit:
Okay I just figured out that Rem does not fit at all the character I substituted, so I had to do another one more fitting.

Ryuuko.zip

Based on Ryuko Matoi from Kill la Kill

ryuuko.png




Also: Oof.
oof1.jpg
oof2.jpg
 
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Tienshinhan

Newbie
Jun 11, 2017
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How many negotiate actions does it take for the chosen to actually have sex with you? They never seem to let me do anything besides the foreplay styled options. I have been invited to their rooms and done about 7 visits each with them and still no dice.
 

Ragsmu

Member
May 22, 2018
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Anyways, done with my first loop from yesterday and now thinking about trying a fresh run with distortion(do not want to go into forsaken stuff yet). Considering what was happening on normal t3 i am worried about how crazy can those get. so how many distortions is manageable? 1? 2? 3?
 

sbarabaus

Member
Dec 29, 2017
300
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i finally managed to get 50+ EE commander (thanks to cheat button appearing after the end of the game) and now i can do stuff do the chosen

i'd like to surround them at the same time to try an orgy, but i don't understand how to prevent them from flying away after a capture
 

Ragsmu

Member
May 22, 2018
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i finally managed to get 50+ EE commander (thanks to cheat button appearing after the end of the game) and now i can do stuff do the chosen

i'd like to surround them at the same time to try an orgy, but i don't understand how to prevent them from flying away after a capture
Speaking from recent experience b4 trying for an orgy you need to break all of their t2 levels so you can quickly stack Circumstance damage when you capturing them with a commander. With that they will have a lot of openings so you can easily recapture them after initial capture expires. you need 3 captures ofc, and you have to play manual commander, Defiler upgrades are not really helping. If all of the above is truye - just try capturing 3 of them at the same time to the best of your ability. when they captured they cant extreminate demons so if you recapture them right away - progress will be slow. and soon you will find out yourself in situation wheren all of them can be captured for 10+ turns. that's when you setup an orgy
 
Jul 14, 2018
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I am no expert, but I find it quite easy to start orgies when I want to, though I typically did so with a defiler, rather than regular commando.

The typical way I do it is to have a commander that focuses on two types of damage that really helps set up future surrounds. I find taking one that does injury and/or disgust damage is the most helpful for setups.

If you have barrier and/or the chozen have good relationships, it works best to ambush immediately. However if you've set them up to hate each other and don't have barrier yet, there are advantages to try to delay the commander so that it would end one or two turns before the first chozen shows up. This allows you to set up a one or two turn surround with regular attacks and damage one thing that the defiler won't damage. If you've got a hate/lust defiler, it helps to set up one level of injury as a compounder to make the capture more damaging, or one level of exposure to help damage the other chozen's more.

In any case, the core strategy would be to capture each chozen with your commander once, and do them enough damage so that they have enough openings to surround them two more times afterward. And also to give them as little space as possible to deal attacks. There should never be 2 uncaptured/2 unsurrounded at once. And if any of them deals high damage (10+) they should not have room to deal their damage even one turn.

You want to minimize the damage they can do to the demon horde, because as soon as any of them is flying, you fucked up.

With this setup, you want to focus on getting each of their hate/lust/inj/exp up as they all help compound the damage done.

Then pay attention to when their surround times are somewhat synchronized. It will last as long as the shortest surround time. Try to aim for it to be at least 8.

Anyways, done with my first loop from yesterday and now thinking about trying a fresh run with distortion(do not want to go into forsaken stuff yet). Considering what was happening on normal t3 i am worried about how crazy can those get. so how many distortions is manageable? 1? 2? 3?
I did one distortion (rampancy) in my first run. It was a right pain in the ass. As far as I can tell, I had to trigger it every battle or it would be lost. It resulted in high EE generation (30 for one chozen), but also complete removal of all Trauma. This meant that if ever she lost the distortion, or I didn't trigger it for a battle, then she would only be generating 1 EE, while others would be generating 15. It caused more reloading than any of the other things I tried. You also generally avoid orgies, which means it's harder to create trauma's for the other girls as well. A T4 break girl was a lot easier to defeat in the final battle as well.

With that said, it's probably easier to do one rampancy at a time.
 
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Aug 4, 2020
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How many negotiate actions does it take for the chosen to actually have sex with you? They never seem to let me do anything besides the foreplay styled options. I have been invited to their rooms and done about 7 visits each with them and still no dice.
I don't think it's possible to have sex with any virgin chosens before turning them into forsakens, negotiation or not
Anyways, done with my first loop from yesterday and now thinking about trying a fresh run with distortion(do not want to go into forsaken stuff yet). Considering what was happening on normal t3 i am worried about how crazy can those get. so how many distortions is manageable? 1? 2? 3?
Depends on which distortions you want to do, for triple Negotiation is approximately as hard as single Negotiation (it's even arguably simpler) as long as you realise you can negotiate with all three chosen on the same day, even if that seems like a bug at first (it's not)
 
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