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Haven't played the Good Uncle side, but Ami saying they might not be related is very likely Ami lying to get into Sensei's pants.
But then again, the Happy scene "Lamb Legs" implies that Ami isn't even human, so...
But then again, the Happy scene "Lamb Legs" implies that Ami isn't even human, so...
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The Good Uncle route misses a lot of Happy Scenes, and a similar thing is implied in Lamb Legs -- except in that one, it's implied that she's not even human, not just not related to Sensei.
If Sel is actually making sure the good uncle route gets all the lore reveals that are in the missed Happy Scenes, props to him for being that thorough.
This is reinforcing that when I do my full anotation of the game, I'll need to have a more chaste run in addition to the normal run to make sure I get everything (no Ami, no side girls)
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wow, thank you so much
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honestly from the context of this and what Ami said
it doesn't quite sound like she is telling them they are not related, as she JUST talks about other girls in a way that implies she knows sensei is banging other girls
she knows of someone else related to sensei he has boned... by this point I wonder what relation he really has with Maya or Ayane. Or if she only thinks sensei has already slept with sana because of that theory related to sensei's brother being the one that kept sara around as a side piece while she was in high school cause he was a teacher if i recall that theory correctly.
I guess I do see the possibility of it meaning Ami isn't related by blood though, but it came across more as a condescending threat than something that would provide relief and give Ami exactly what she wanted right then and there. (Ami- "I'm going to threaten you with a guilt free good time!")
Edit: I also wonder... if this dialogue changes if you do a no sex run with any of the girls, though by the very vague nature of the lore of the game its already somewhat confrimed of the sexual relation with Maya long before the resets started.
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The scene doesn't come off as Ami being manipulative or lying. The scene comes after she breaks character and starts screaming at you in front of some other girls, only to quickly regain her cool and then make everyone forget and call her cute. Then she will drag you to the sauna to rip into you about the relationship you and her have, with her distorted shadow looming in the background. It's played as an almost borderline happy scene and kind of really enforces the fact that she knows a hell of a lot more than she's letting on. Her big bargaining chip is that she knows stuff you don't, and she's willing to tell you if you just screw her.
This is followed by the game itself telling you that you have fucked up and that you should really go back and screw on Ami. The game then throws an early game-over screen at you with the threat that you won't be able to keep playing if you don't screw her.
So there's a lot to unpack
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What if...
What if...
What if Ami thinks she's not related to Sensei is because she found evidence in her mom's things that suggest Sekai was cheating and her daughter was a product of that affair BUT she doesn't know the affair was with Sensei... so she thinks that they're unrelated when actually they're even more related? Like a diary where Sekai talks about the affair and wrote about how she's certain her baby is from the other man as her husband didn't have sex with her around the time she was ovulating or something, like she knows it's the other man that fathered it without a doubt... and this way if/when Ami reveals the fact and shows the diary to Akira, then that's the moment he realises Ami is his daughter? Like, that moment would have to be after Sensei becomes self aware of his affair with Sekai again but it'd work wouldn't it?
A diary of secrets of her dead mother's would explain a lot of Ami's supposed meta knowledge and it'd be the sort of thing that'd make such a person cocky with said secret knowledge. It'd also be exactly the kind of thing Ami might find digging through he parents things looking for mementos and heirlooms to treasure and connect with her dead parents.
What if...
What if Ami thinks she's not related to Sensei is because she found evidence in her mom's things that suggest Sekai was cheating and her daughter was a product of that affair BUT she doesn't know the affair was with Sensei... so she thinks that they're unrelated when actually they're even more related? Like a diary where Sekai talks about the affair and wrote about how she's certain her baby is from the other man as her husband didn't have sex with her around the time she was ovulating or something, like she knows it's the other man that fathered it without a doubt... and this way if/when Ami reveals the fact and shows the diary to Akira, then that's the moment he realises Ami is his daughter? Like, that moment would have to be after Sensei becomes self aware of his affair with Sekai again but it'd work wouldn't it?
A diary of secrets of her dead mother's would explain a lot of Ami's supposed meta knowledge and it'd be the sort of thing that'd make such a person cocky with said secret knowledge. It'd also be exactly the kind of thing Ami might find digging through he parents things looking for mementos and heirlooms to treasure and connect with her dead parents.
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ALL HAIL MATTHEW! the true savior and God of LILI'm the same way. Just along for the ride at this point and let people more intelligent than me theorize
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She found a bunch of her mom's poetry, so it would be reasonable to assume she inferred it from one of the poems.
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Omg, i actually contributed something not completely retarded to the theory-ing of the game, woo, go me. Now all that needs to happen is having my idea completely invalidated by future content so i can return back to the dunce-cap wearing onlookers where i belong. Where i am at home.
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Pretty nice theory. The gut punch would then be Sensei discovering he's been fucking his own daughter. Not that fucking his niece is any better though, would he even care at that point?
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That would be real cool and i'd like that plot development, but it has to many 'what if's' to go off of since we have no mention of a diary yet, just her moms poetry, I think. (did sekai have a diary be brought up in the game, I don't remember it) I like it but best theories are based on context and narrative ques.
I have my own system for looking at story theories to determine level of validity going to spoiler it because its probably really boring to everyone
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Now with drugdealer Io, I'm afraid of her learning about Miku and Sensei and trying to overdose or sabotage Miku on a psychotic breakdown.
And with hyper horny Sana, on the scene she talks about the angels with Sara, she says they won't take her too, that implies that the brother was influenced by the angels too, and if the "big horny" is a symptom of angel influence, what happened to him might be revenge of someone he assalted while "big horny" too.
And with hyper horny Sana, on the scene she talks about the angels with Sara, she says they won't take her too, that implies that the brother was influenced by the angels too, and if the "big horny" is a symptom of angel influence, what happened to him might be revenge of someone he assalted while "big horny" too.
Here is one of Sekai's poems Ami reads us (or at least, tries to) in one of her last events
For me, it's too cryptic to make any sense, but maybe one of the big brains on here can make something out of it. I really wonder what is she talking about in the first part, something given to her and her lover (Sensei? Or his brother?), they would have wanted the same but god gave them different ones. Destinies? Deaths, maybe? Idk
Notice "- the girl who cannot breathe" at the end
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Notice "- the girl who cannot breathe" at the end
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i can take a crack at it but its just conjecture
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I also have a different take on it too...which is a bit funnier
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Thanks for the clarification on some of my thoughts, this game is so huge now that I forget some the detail reveals in the earlier parts of the game. Which means another playthrough for me as a refresher. Seeing as there will enough time to do so until next update.
I re-watched "Beyond the Reach of God". I still think that Nodoka's mania was induced by Godly influence and she that didn't suffer from it before; and God meant to stop her from finding whatever truth she is looking for. By way of sensory/information overload. But as you say I'm probably wrong on that point. And as KnowNoHope said in their post; I could be trying to draw parallels with thing I've seen or read elsewhere outside of the game (under: "SPOILERS:very boring stuff"; lvl 4, IIRC).
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i think your theory is fine I actually try to stay clear of theorizing about the gods in this game other than the base level 'what are they really', to convoluted at the moment so making just about any theory is plausible.
i mean except for the one true god Matthew who graces us with his presence every-time we stand outside the dorms and that one time in sana's bar
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Played through the update a while ago. Just wanted to give some thoughts on our proper introduction to Sekai...
Sekai, having broken whatever barrier (Sensei's mind?) was holding her from existing, is back.
The fact that she worked alongside the angels in the events leading up to Makoto and Futaba seems to imply her being connected to the god Yasu worships, and as someone else had mentioned a few pages back, perhaps Sekai may very well even be this god.
Going off that, at the very beginning of this update Yasu makes it clear that her god is on the beach. Later when weirding out Sana, Yasu mentions the fragrance of an Angel, or rather the "scent that comes from the thoughts she (the Angel) thinks and the things that she will see behind closed doors" considering these 'doors' that are opened by the narrator at the end of this update end with the narrator cutting it short prior to Sekai talking does play into the idea of her being the narrator.
Speaking of our final door that we see opened involving Yasu implies, at least to me, that we may be seeing Yasu acting rather different come next update. Something mentioned in the same scene talking about the Angel's fragrance, Yasu mentions how "All of my actions are predetermined by god and the only one who can puppet this fragile body is Him".
Going off the idea that Sekai is no longer 'locked away' and going under the belief that she is Yasy's god, Sekai may plan on a much more permanent puppeteering of Yasu as a means of interacting with Sensei or anyone else (Ami, for instance.). In another direction, even if Sekai isn't Yasu's god, I got a feeling that Sekai's interest in Yasu at the end still involves using her as a vessel. This based both on how sensitive Yasu is to these outer forces and as she puts it when talking to Sana "Indulge. You are free unlike me. You can let them in" which I take as meaning that Yasu can't exactly prevent gods/angels from 'entering' her.
This thought of what's happened to Yasu has been burning a hole in my head for a while now, figured I'd share it. Same time, I could be off the mark here. Hell, on a slightly unrelated note, maybe the reason Sensei now has been given this apartment is so he can avoid Sekai if she has actually willed herself into being alive within the world.
Either way this update was wild, I'm very interested to see what will occur come next update.
Sekai, having broken whatever barrier (Sensei's mind?) was holding her from existing, is back.
The fact that she worked alongside the angels in the events leading up to Makoto and Futaba seems to imply her being connected to the god Yasu worships, and as someone else had mentioned a few pages back, perhaps Sekai may very well even be this god.
Going off that, at the very beginning of this update Yasu makes it clear that her god is on the beach. Later when weirding out Sana, Yasu mentions the fragrance of an Angel, or rather the "scent that comes from the thoughts she (the Angel) thinks and the things that she will see behind closed doors" considering these 'doors' that are opened by the narrator at the end of this update end with the narrator cutting it short prior to Sekai talking does play into the idea of her being the narrator.
Speaking of our final door that we see opened involving Yasu implies, at least to me, that we may be seeing Yasu acting rather different come next update. Something mentioned in the same scene talking about the Angel's fragrance, Yasu mentions how "All of my actions are predetermined by god and the only one who can puppet this fragile body is Him".
Going off the idea that Sekai is no longer 'locked away' and going under the belief that she is Yasy's god, Sekai may plan on a much more permanent puppeteering of Yasu as a means of interacting with Sensei or anyone else (Ami, for instance.). In another direction, even if Sekai isn't Yasu's god, I got a feeling that Sekai's interest in Yasu at the end still involves using her as a vessel. This based both on how sensitive Yasu is to these outer forces and as she puts it when talking to Sana "Indulge. You are free unlike me. You can let them in" which I take as meaning that Yasu can't exactly prevent gods/angels from 'entering' her.
This thought of what's happened to Yasu has been burning a hole in my head for a while now, figured I'd share it. Same time, I could be off the mark here. Hell, on a slightly unrelated note, maybe the reason Sensei now has been given this apartment is so he can avoid Sekai if she has actually willed herself into being alive within the world.
Either way this update was wild, I'm very interested to see what will occur come next update.
If this was the case, I do wonder why the god in question would mess with her cognition in that way instead of just making it impossible for her to really grasp the information (like we see when people talk about how long the school year has been going). They could also just outright wipe her memory or disappear her if she's that much of a problem as well, she doesn't seem to be that important.
I do think there's something to her mania, just not sure it's meant to be an equivalent to sensei blacking out. Not unless she becomes more relevant to the wider plot later on at least.