arone tajhiri

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i was surpised to see the update to steam, it seems to me i might be wrong but the steam version is now like the patreon version i believe but i could be wrong.
nah steam has some content censored whereas Patreon isn't
there was a comparison between the two a few pages back.
 

BobTheDuck

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i was surpised to see the update to steam, it seems to me i might be wrong but the steam version is now like the patreon version i believe but i could be wrong.
I believe this is correct - there is only one version now, so any bug fix is simpler, and imports to season 2 etc won't get corrupted (fingers crossed).

Seems like "rework" is becoming the ultimate trigger word around here :KEK:

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Wait, you were only today years old when you learnt this, but you've been on the board since 2018???

I am amaze :LOL:

nah steam has some content censored whereas Patreon isn't
there was a comparison between the two a few pages back.
Nope, Steam was updated, and a devlog released explaining that all are now the same.
 
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Drinex

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Well, just finished the politically correct (steam) version, the game got censored to the ground and not just some renders but also writing in some cases.

For the plus i would say new scenes are not bad (more Bella, carring both games). Dynamic changed a bit and dont think i like it, it feels faster than it was even before but its whatever at this point.

We could have ch 6 or even 7 of the story at this point if not for the reworks.

If trend continues and we will get more reworks & 14+ age season 2 for steam boys, then i dont see the future for this VN and i loved the older versions. We will see what season 2 brings.

And for last, the screen after the credits cracked me up hard ''3 more games planned after WiAB and SG'' 5 years and we have barely 15% of SG story (alone) completed.

Dont get me wrong, Ocean has big talent when it comes to renders but he needs a reality check (if he wants to complete the story as a lone wolf) maybe he intends to be alive for 200 years then plan might work if the burn out doesnt hit hard.

Have a nice day everyone.
 

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nah steam has some content censored whereas Patreon isn't
there was a comparison between the two a few pages back.
well the update today with steam version added the nami topless at teh lake and the mc slapping her naked ass when you walk with her at vics i thought that was only for patreon version.
 

John972

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I mean, sure, I wasn't talking from a new player's perspective, and you're right, they won't know what they're missing (at least until they delve deeper) and at worst they'll feel that there's no pay-off to certain scenes. I also agree that some of the changes do make the game flow a bit better.

That said, I'm not sure how new players are gonna feel about the game... I reckon most are gonna be expecting the usual AVN content, i.e. a lot of lewd stuff, so they're not gonna be satisfied. And then the other group that might be interested in the story? Maaan, with that begining and how bad the translations are, I'm not sure they'll be satisfied either, so it's possible a lot of people will just bail & even refund.

I'll say it again, he went with a half-measure solution and that's a mistake, but more importantly, I feel the game needed some more work before launching it on Steam, particularly the dialogues... but it's too late, I guess... we'll see how it does, at least that much should be interesting.
I admit, I am only halfway through a fresh playthrough, but I strongly agree the release needed more work. By more work, I don't mean more time.

And I am not talking about lewd content removed etc etc, rather things that should've been picked up through proof reading and Beta testing before submission to Steam.

1. The game desperately needs a proof reader who is competent in the English language (preferably as a first language). This has been obvious for a few of years. Yes, there are many spelling and grammar mistakes, but a potentially bigger issue (one that affects ALL English-language AVNs) is knowing how to translate everyday SPOKEN English into WRITTEN English. When that's done well in SG, it shines, When it's done badly, it stinks.

2. There are bugs/faults missed in Beta testing, some of which happen and are blindingly obvious. For example, there is a scene with Mila (pajama party invite) in Ch 3 that is repeated practically word-for-word in Ch 3.5 in the same playthrough. That's likely a coding issue. I can't fathom how it could be missed on a simple playthrough during Beta testing.

These are mostly all things that can be easily fixed, with the right focus and effort. Having said that... to see reported spelling mistakes still in the game more than year after they were reported is quite disheartening.

Yes, I love this game (and I don't really care about the removed lewds) but I am frustrated such a rough-cut version made it onto Steam.

PS - Here are the near-identical scenes encountered on the same playthrough:

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brian987

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Well, just finished the politically correct (steam) version, the game got censored to the ground and not just some renders but also writing in some cases.

For the plus i would say new scenes are not bad (more Bella, carring both games). Dynamic changed a bit and dont think i like it, it feels faster than it was even before but its whatever at this point.

We could have ch 6 or even 7 of the story at this point if not for the reworks.

If trend continues and we will get more reworks & 14+ age season 2 for steam boys, then i dont see the future for this VN and i loved the older versions. We will see what season 2 brings.

And for last, the screen after the credits cracked me up hard ''3 more games planned after WiAB and SG'' 5 years and we have barely 15% of SG story (alone) completed.

Dont get me wrong, Ocean has big talent when it comes to renders but he needs a reality check (if he wants to complete the story as a lone wolf) maybe he intends to be alive for 200 years then plan might work if the burn out doesnt hit hard.

Have a nice day everyone.
A new update came out on Steam today with uncensored scenes. Now it's the same as Patreon, we're hoping to get it out here now.
 

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I believe this is correct - there is only one version now, so any bug fix is simpler, and imports to season 2 etc won't get corrupted (fingers crossed).



Wait, you were only today years old when you learnt this, but you've been on the board since 2018???

I am amaze :LOL:



Nope, Steam was updated, and a devlog released explaining that all are now the same.
Well, gotta admit, I'm guilty as charged. But hey, in my defense, I only signed up here ages ago to snag a mod or cheat for some game and then promptly forgot about this gem of a place :whistle: :coffee:
It took the allure of the AVNs this year to jog my memory about my account... :HideThePain:
 

BobTheDuck

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A new update came out on Steam today with uncensored scenes. Now it's the same as Patreon, we're hoping to get it out here now.
I wouldn't get your hopes up too much - it's simply the Nami ass slapping scene if you take her on a walk after the pizza night, and Nami topless at the lake. It's pretty minimal content.

Well, gotta admit, I'm guilty as charged. But hey, in my defense, I only signed up here ages ago to snag a mod or cheat for some game and then promptly forgot about this gem of a place :whistle: :coffee:
It took the allure of the AVNs this year to jog my memory about my account... :HideThePain:
No problem, it's just THE trigger word, almost as much as ehN-Tea-aRgh :sneaky:
 

motseer

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It's too bad. The story is a bit dark at times but, overall, it's told by one of the best artist/animator/story tellers out there. But now, for me, it will be totally dark since I am "unwatching" this title. I would never consider buying it since there is nothing new there, for me, to buy. I guess it's just the price one sometimes pays for following products "in development". Too often they just grind to a halt.
 
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Well, just finished the politically correct (steam) version, the game got censored to the ground and not just some renders but also writing in some cases.

For the plus i would say new scenes are not bad (more Bella, carring both games). Dynamic changed a bit and dont think i like it, it feels faster than it was even before but its whatever at this point.

We could have ch 6 or even 7 of the story at this point if not for the reworks.

If trend continues and we will get more reworks & 14+ age season 2 for steam boys, then i dont see the future for this VN and i loved the older versions. We will see what season 2 brings.

And for last, the screen after the credits cracked me up hard ''3 more games planned after WiAB and SG'' 5 years and we have barely 15% of SG story (alone) completed.

Dont get me wrong, Ocean has big talent when it comes to renders but he needs a reality check (if he wants to complete the story as a lone wolf) maybe he intends to be alive for 200 years then plan might work if the burn out doesnt hit hard.

Have a nice day everyone.
I do not understand Ocean's obsession to release the censored version on steam, being a dik is also on steam and has not suffered any censorship, in those countries where it can not be published that is not published and that's it, people will buy it on patreon and ready, it makes no sense to lengthen the developments and make 2 versions just for that.
 

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Yah I get u. Even tho it's small thing I can't focus on playing because of it. Here's hoping "someone" drop the uncensored patch for this week :confused:
I'm working on one for the Steam version (although via SanchoMod). No promises though as this is not what I normally do and it's a rather tedious process. That said I have the first 3 chapters done as of this post. But it's Monday so I could easily get frustrated and just shut down the studio rather than waterboard myself with monotony :ROFLMAO: .
 

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Let's be real here, and let's just forget about tits, vaginas and dicks for a second... a simple google search will show you how the US classification system for games work... let's have a look:

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Riiight... so now, guess which game starts with a teenage girl getting ran over by a car and left blodied on the street, while the driver points a gun at another teenager?

Guess which game has depictions of a teenager using drugs?

Guess which game has an extreme over-use of foul language, including very no-no words like retard and cunt every 5 seconds, threats of violence (jokes about school shootings) and various other forms of crude and vulgar language?

Now... why would anyone try to pass a game like that as a 13+ game is a very good question... but then you add all of the sexual stuff on top of that, even if it's just tit shots, and yeaaaaaah, I'm not sure what the plan was.

So, like, if he decided to "censor" the game down to a 13+ rating so he could sell it in germany and all that, then he should've ACTUALLY removed all the problematic content, not just some dick shots and some random nudity... But of course, doing a full sanitization would've made most of his fans furious, because it would be a HUGE departure of what the game is supposed to be and what he promised them... so instead he did a really half-assed job of trying to tone it down a bit, but really, what the fuck was he expecting to happen?

It would've been faaaaar easier, quicker and simply better to cut his losses on a couple of songs and on being able to sell it in fuckin germany, like every other AVN has to do...

But here we be ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyways, at this point it feels like I'm beating on a dead horse, so bleh, I'm off...
 

Maviarab

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I do not understand Ocean's obsession to release the censored version on steam, being a dik is also on steam and has not suffered any censorship, in those countries where it can not be published that is not published and that's it, people will buy it on patreon and ready, it makes no sense to lengthen the developments and make 2 versions just for that.
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BobTheDuck

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It's too bad. The story is a bit dark at times but, overall, it's told by one of the best artist/animator/story tellers out there. But now, for me, it will be totally dark since I am "unwatching" this title. I would never consider buying it since there is nothing there to buy that wasn't there 2 years ago. I guess it's just the price one sometimes pays for following products "in development". Too often they just grind to a halt.
Nothing? All of chapter 4 and 5 have been added since '2 years ago'. That's the basketball game, almost all of getting to know Zara, the tabletop, the locker room, the dinner with Nick, Vanessa, the tennis game, the morning with Bella, the visit to Nia, More bella, the book club, Katie...

So, really, not nothing that wasn't there, but there's nothing you're interested in. I'll admit, the tabletop made me sleepy...

Let's be real here, and let's just forget about tits, vaginas and dicks for a second... a simple google search will show you how the US classification system for games work... let's have a look:

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Riiight... so now, guess which game starts with a teenage girl getting ran over by a car and left blodied on the street, while the driver points a gun at another teenager?

Guess which game has depictions of a teenager using drugs?

Guess which game has an extreme over-use of foul language, including very no-no words like retard and cunt every 5 seconds, threats of violence (jokes about school shootings) and various other forms of crude and vulgar language?

Now... why would anyone try to pass a game like that as a 13+ game is a very good question... but then you add all of the sexual stuff on top of that, even if it's just tit shots, and yeaaaaaah, I'm not sure what the plan was.

So, like, if he decided to "censor" the game down to a 13+ rating so he could sell it in germany and all that, then he should've ACTUALLY removed all the problematic content, not just some dick shots and some random nudity... But of course, doing a full sanitization would've made most of his fans furious, because it would be a HUGE departure of what the game is supposed to be and what he promised them... so instead he did a really half-assed job of trying to tone it down a bit, but really, what the fuck was he expecting to happen?

It would've been faaaaar easier, quicker and simply better to cut his losses on a couple of songs and on being able to sell it in fuckin germany, like every other AVN has to do...

But here we be ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyways, at this point it feels like I'm beating on a dead horse, so bleh, I'm off...
Not disagreeing with your logic, but the rating was 16+ for the German market that he was aiming for, not 13+US German's have different ratings, as does Europe, as does Asia. Ocean wasn't trying to get it for teens, he was trying to avoid 18+ for geoblocking reasons, because Steam. But it is a dead horse, that bolted the gate, and then got locked up and ...yeah, all that.

Fixed that for ya Bob ;)
Well, you got me at Katie 100% correct :love:
 
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Maviarab

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Nothing? All of chapter 4 and 5 have been added since '2 years ago'. That's the basketball game, almost all of getting to know Zara, the tabletop, the locker room, the dinner with Nick, Vanessa, the tennis game, the morning with Bella, the visit to Nia, More bella, the book club, Katie...

So, really, not nothing that wasn't there
Fixed that for ya Bob ;)
 

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Nothing? All of chapter 4 and 5 have been added since '2 years ago'. That's the basketball game, almost all of getting to know Zara, the tabletop, the locker room, the dinner with Nick, Vanessa, the tennis game, the morning with Bella, the visit to Nia, More bella, the book club, Katie...

So, really, not nothing that wasn't there, but there's nothing you're interested in. I'll admit, the tabletop made me sleepy...



Not disagreeing with your logic, but the rating was 16+ for the German market that he was aiming for, not 13+US German's have different ratings, as does Europe, as does Asia. Ocean wasn't trying to get it for teens, he was trying to avoid 18+ for geoblocking reasons, because Steam. But it is a dead horse, that bolted the gate, and then got locked up and ...yeah, all that.



Well, you got me at Katie 100% correct :love:
I fixed it for you. I took out the time estimate. But, for me, it doesn't matter. Redo, start over, develop two titles at once. Wait forever only to find out old saves won't work... and before you say it... it's not the first time or the second for this dev's titles. I wish him the best but I am done and I think I am voicing the frustration of many. Heh. I've said what I wanted. There are plenty of other titles that make good progress to enjoy. I'll go away and shut up now. :)
 
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I'm working on one for the Steam version (although via SanchoMod). No promises though as this is not what I normally do and it's a rather tedious process. That said I have the first 3 chapters done as of this post. But it's Monday so I could easily get frustrated and just shut down the studio rather than waterboard myself with monotony :ROFLMAO: .
Ohhh I always wait for your mod but just got excited and tried to use the patch and didn't notice it still chapter 5 beta:BootyTime:. Just hoping it works for joiplay cuz I still can't afford to buy laptop rn T^T. Thanks for the hard work and praying that u won't fully lost interest in dis game even with all of this drama happening :LOL:
 
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