hmmmm... there is the possibility of us being being fed her Pov alone and there being more to it than we were told.... true....
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I love how DrPinkCake understands the importance of the "moral support friend". I think that's something that makes the story THAT much more enjoyable.
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Been a while since I posted here and I just wanted to say I don't think Jill and Bella did anything sexual. I've always thought that MC was a great exception that Bella took in how far she went sexually with him. Also DrPinkCake is a big fan of red herring's and distraction's in his stories.
It seems like him implying that Bella and Jill did something sexual is something that's going to be irreverent in later episodes, just like the implication that Chad was gay, where in reality he was just not satisfied with Sage and was just cheating.
It seems like him implying that Bella and Jill did something sexual is something that's going to be irreverent in later episodes, just like the implication that Chad was gay, where in reality he was just not satisfied with Sage and was just cheating.
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To be fair, there was next to no evidence of Chad being gay. It was biased speculation based on him being a body builder who wasn't engaging sexually with a woman.
Conversely, there's more than a few indications they did hook up. There's not 100% proof but it's different to the Chad thing. For the record I really hope nothing did happen between them only for the fact it kinda ruins Bella for me. It wouldn't change my opinion on Jill but a lot of Bella's character hinges on (in my opinion) the MC being an exception. If it turns out she's in the habit of cheating on her husband with 18 years olds she met at work and befriended it changes things.
- Dec 13, 2018
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We still haven't had a resolution to the Chad situation yet, so we don't know if he's gay, cheating with another girl, or doing something else.
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I think that the person Chad is cheating on Sage with is Melanie. He probably isn't gay.
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I agree that Jill's best look is soaking wet with her hair back. But I prefer scenes where she wasn't just gratuitously groped by the MC.
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I know we're probably going to get bogged down in semantics again and you and I gave gone over this before, but if Bella's husband were to have cheated on her, and then in a moment of vulnerable weakness she and Jill did something as small as make-out, does that really constitute as cheating for her?
Sure, she may still have technically been married, and even now she still wears her ring and considers herself a married woman, but if that's as far as it went with them, does that small indiscretion after her husband possibly did way more with someone else and their marriage was in dire straits as a result really make her a cheat?
This is something that's seemingly been debunked due to the fact that Melanie is in the gym on the treadmill when Chad is on the phone to someone in the locker room.
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I absolutely agree... and yet the very next day the MC will still blow off spending the night with Maya and Josy to crash with Bella and Jill, even when he has nothing going with either. Then he can offer to give Cathy a ride home just to automatically turn down a relationship with her.
Honestly, as much as I want to think the MC is taking the relationship with M&J seriously, I think this is pretty much pure game mechanics at work. DPC wants to split the teachers from the M&J path for whatever reason so BOOM! MC misses his one shot with Jade and turns down Cathy. Problem solved.
- Sep 20, 2018
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If the MC has CHICK affinity (affinity, not status) he can use the shower after their tennis date at the same time as Jill.Did I miss something? Where does this scene come from?
After they're done, Jill accidentally peeks at the MC and he has the option to kiss her. IMHO, it's Jill's best scene in the game.
On that note...
I certainly don't want people to miss scenes, but the ability to see different things on each playthrough is the heart of making this a game rather than a novel or video. The ability to miss out on a scene is a necessary part of that. Plus, there's no better feeling than accidentally stumbling into an awesome scene you didn't even know could happen. I'll take that over making all scenes mandatory.
Fortunately, we live in the information age so walkthroughs are readily available.
- Jun 16, 2017
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Holy Bacchus Yes two wrongs don't make a right. How far they went is irrelevant. You make a promise to whatever, religious figure or state marriage, that you will blah blah etc. etc. Whatever the vows consists of. Just because one person cheats doesn't give you the right to screw around.
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Jill is always cute to me. No matter when. I like the moment Jill tries to cheer up MC.. and that sweet face of her.
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But is the person who's just been deeply emotionally wounded by the actions of their spouse/partner really at fault for a small, brief moment of needed intimacy when in such a vulnerable state? Because to me, in a scenario where one person knowingly, willingly, and possibly even repeatedly cheats, and the person who has been cheated on, upon finding out and being devastated by it, were to kiss someone else in a rash moment of impulse because of their emotional state, the actions of 2nd person are not equivocal to those of the 1st.
It's not to say that this person has any kind of "right to screw around" because the other person has done so, but simply that something as small and insignificant as a kiss that they immediately regretted doing afterwards does not also make them a cheat when that promise/bond/contract of fidelity has already been broken by another.
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Ain't this a shocker?
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Jill's best look is when she is on all fours and MC is ballsdeep in her sophisticated ass.
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I think something that will clarify a lot of what I say on here will be explaining why I have such an issue with cheating.
I'm not religious, I don't care about the "sanctity" of marriage. I'm not a possessive or overwhelmingly jealous person. I'd have no issue with an open or poly-amorous relationship. I have an issue with the dishonesty that comes with infidelity. I value trust above pretty much anything in a relationship... in most things actually. I need to be able to trust my partner and cheating nearly always involves a level of dishonesty I consider it impossible to recover from. It isn't the cheating itself (though I don't like that at all, I have that same gut reaction of hating the idea someone else is with my partner. I'm not into NTR or whatever...) it's the inherent dishonesty that comes with it most of the time.
If what Bella is doing with the MC technically counts as cheating is separate from whether she's breaching trust in a way that would transfer to me were I in a relationship with her. If James has walked out on her and been gone for a long time without any sort of contact there's no (or severely diminished) expectation of fidelity. I wouldn't hold it against Bella for technically cheating by sleeping with someone else because there wouldn't really be any sensible expectation of fidelity provided she from the point of cheating onwards considers the previous relationship dead. Yes being married is an explicit expectation but I hold little value to being married. It's meaningless to me, it's a legal document that shouldn't impart any trust or security to a relationship. If being married creates trust there wasn't full trust to begin with. Ergo, meaningless.
So even with the marriage I feel at some point you stop being in a relationship and no-contact to the degree James has shown is a sensible point for Bella to consider the relationship over thus there wasn't any dishonesty. I could trust that provided I didn't entirely abandon her for years I'd have her fidelity. However, having slept with Jill creates an automatic breach of trust because she still considers herself married as of Ep1. She still considers herself in a relationship. If she cheated with her and continued to believe she is in a relationship she obviously doesn't consider the relationship over. She doesn't consider him gone for so long to be enough to end the relationship so she's breaching trust. She's actively, consciously, engaging in what she knows to be infidelity and I would have every reason to believe she'd do the same to me.
It's why I'm somewhat (very very dubiously) open to Sage as a partner too. She may well not consider what she's doing with the MC infidelity. It's not unreasonable to consider her relationship with Chad dead considering he wont even kiss her, actively avoids all contact and is cheating on her. She would need a damn compelling reason why she didn't just end things (Bella has the excuse of seemingly total no-contact) but there's a sliver of circumstance I could see myself dating her. I could trust that provided I didn't entirely ignore her, refuse to have sex or even kiss her, I would have her fidelity.
Maya and Josy on the other hand breached trust, lied and it spiralled into further lies. They yo-yo'd back and forth between doubting their relationship, regretting infidelity, being on the edge of breaking up but come Ep4 are playing happy families and living together and not mentioning to one another they both fucked the MC. There's no wiggle room there. They knowingly and consciously cheated on their partner and hid it. It then created a whole mess of lies after the initial one (which is part of why I hate lying. Lies beget lies) and it took the MC to reveal the truth. They never proffered it themselves. They may have had reasons for cheating... but that isn't my issue. It's the lying and a total lack of trust that they wouldn't do the same to me.
So to answer your question. No it probably wouldn't be cheating if James cheated on her and she in a moment of weakness slept with Jill... but it is still a dishonest act because her behaviour after the incident (if it happened) was one of someone who didn't consider the relationship over.
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