VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Sadowdark]

what was the first question?

The words of a colleague xxxorro

,,There is a passage at the end of Sam's that felt a bit strange, I don't know if it is a translation problem or what. When Sophia says to Sam:,,


Python:

s "And whatever happened in this room stays in this room!"
s "Maybe this little adventure will do me some good alongside my marriage."
s "But I don't want my marriage to destroy this secret liaison or whatever it is! Otherwise, I'll kill you. Capiche *smirk*?"

,,Ok, the little adventure can help her to fill some void that Liam is leaving at the moment.
But the next sentence is maybe inversed? Or a missing passive form like "to be destroyed by"?
Shouldn't be that the affair must not destroy the marriage (otherwise I'll kill you), and not the other way around?
Does that sentence make sense to you guys?
(and I mean not in terms of the psychology behind having an affair and believing that the two can coexist etc,,

 

[Utk1234]

There is a passage at the end of Sam's that felt a bit strange, I don't know if it is a translation problem or what. When Sophia says to Sam:


Python:

s "And whatever happened in this room stays in this room!"
s "Maybe this little adventure will do me some good alongside my marriage."
s "But I don't want my marriage to destroy this secret liaison or whatever it is! Otherwise, I'll kill you. Capiche *smirk*?"

Ok, the little adventure can help her to fill some void that Liam is leaving at the moment.
But the next sentence is maybe inversed? Or a missing passive form like "to be destroyed by"?
Shouldn't be that the affair must not destroy the marriage (otherwise I'll kill you), and not the other way around?
Does that sentence make sense to you guys?
(and I mean not in terms of the psychology behind having an affair and believing that the two can coexist etc

stop over analyzing shit and ask l&p to speed up

 

[TheOneWithThePorn12]

u are an idiot

my favourite part is that the updates were supposed to be monthly (i think)

Somehow what was supposed to be the full day every three months has now turned into a third of day every three months.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Shared thanks to friend info 71


I asked L&P the same question and this was their response.
L&P: Sophia will rather cool things down with Sam because it's a dangerous game and she doesn't want ti ruin her marriage with that.
I asked more questions:
Will there be events soon that cause Sophia to look down on some of Liam's actions?
Could Sophia voluntarily choose to leave Liam?
L&P: The ending with Sam won't be get spoiled now.
Is Devon a passing character or will he have an active role with Sopia?
L&P: Devon will be only important as much as that he is Marie's bf who she can cheat on later with Dylan.
Is the loan taken from Dylan only for the event with Marie or will it have repercussions later on?
L&P: The money Dylan took out of Sophia's wallet needs to be given back the next day, otherwise Sophia will be mad with him cause she will notice that.

Is Dylan just bad at money? If you're playing the boarding school route, this is twice now that he hasn't had any. What's his excuse this time?

my favourite part is that the updates were supposed to be monthly (i think)

Somehow what was supposed to be the full day every three months has now turned into a third of day every three months.

A full day is now taking about two years.

 

[tee31]

He's not going to speed anything up, he's going to keep delaying and jerking and backtracking the story to give you blue balls as much as possible. He sees how bad people are addicted to seeing shit progress, he's milking those patreon subs and trying to stretch things out for years. Just like an only fans model showing a tiny piece of nipple year after year, milking subs.

 

[TheOneWithThePorn12]

I do play the lesbian route. And it's kinda how I felt during the Yoga event. For those on the boarding school route, Dylan being there was non-sensical.

I was specifically thinking of you for the lesbian path players lol.

So with the boarding school path Dylan still goes to do Yoga? I forget, does he come back on the weekends or something?

All this path splitting is so annoying.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I was specifically thinking of you for the lesbian path players lol.

So with the boarding school path Dylan still goes to do Yoga? I forget, does he come back on the weekends or something?

All this path splitting is so annoying.

Yes, Dylan is still there for the Yoga event. He catches the bus after being left at the boarding school. Plays at the arcade for a while, and spends all his bus money so he can't get back - needing Sophia to pick him up and drop him off at the boarding school again. Which I don't like, since he'd need to be completely incompetent to achieve that. It's not difficult to set up a travel card these days to automatically top up when it gets below a certain amount.

Dylan being safe in the city on the boarding school route is one of the numerous reasons why I can't accept Aiden as this all-powerful crime lord he claims to be.

And yes, Dylan comes back on the weekends. Although according to the roadmap, Dylan doesn't have events on PD15, 16, 21 and 22, so he wont be seen this Sunday, or Saturday of next weekend.

 

[blademaster89]

The words of a colleague xxxorro

,,There is a passage at the end of Sam's that felt a bit strange, I don't know if it is a translation problem or what. When Sophia says to Sam:,,


Python:

s "And whatever happened in this room stays in this room!"
s "Maybe this little adventure will do me some good alongside my marriage."
s "But I don't want my marriage to destroy this secret liaison or whatever it is! Otherwise, I'll kill you. Capiche *smirk*?"

,,Ok, the little adventure can help her to fill some void that Liam is leaving at the moment.
But the next sentence is maybe inversed? Or a missing passive form like "to be destroyed by"?
Shouldn't be that the affair must not destroy the marriage (otherwise I'll kill you), and not the other way around?
Does that sentence make sense to you guys?
(and I mean not in terms of the psychology behind having an affair and believing that the two can coexist etc,,

It was a typo on his part lol.

 

[armion82]

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He said that last year too.And previous one.And the one before that.
Probably only 2017 he missed to say something like that.

Yes, Dylan is still there for the Yoga event. He catches the bus after being left at the boarding school. Plays at the arcade for a while, and spends all his bus money so he can't get back - needing Sophia to pick him up and drop him off at the boarding school again. Which I don't like, since he'd need to be completely incompetent to achieve that. It's not difficult to set up a travel card these days to automatically top up when it gets below a certain amount.

Dylan being safe in the city on the boarding school route is one of the numerous reasons why I can't accept Aiden as this all-powerful crime lord he claims to be.

And yes, Dylan comes back on the weekends. Although according to the roadmap, Dylan doesn't have events on PD15, 16, 21 and 22, so he wont be seen this Sunday, or Saturday of next weekend.

I think the case was that there is no Dylan/Sophia event on these days.
But can be Dylan/Emma,Dylan/Christine,Dylan/Marie-you got the idea.
After all there is a finite number of days left.And a lot of LI for Dylan.The dev can't afford to have half of the remaining days without any Dylan events.
Unless he is planning to make all days with Dylan/Sophia event/s just Dylan's days like PD13.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I just remembered, but does Aiden or any of his thugs appear in this update? Much of the threat Aiden made was based on him claiming to have eyes everywhere, and that if Sophia didn't accept the tasks, there was nowhere Dylan could go without getting beaten up.

Seems like in the boarding school route Sophia can call his bluff and wins. Not only can Dylan go to the salon without worrying about Aiden, but apparently an ice cream parlor and a laundromat too.

 

[fishbrain]

I think I would bet money right now that Sophia will never have sex with anyone other than Liam.

 

[SophiawantsSam]

Hi friends...

Just finished the game... Its really disappointed..
Developer taken 2 months for this tiny shitty update... Its reduculous.. I think he may be completed this update 1month back and wait for another month to take money from followers and released..

IS THIS UPDATE WORTHY FOR 2 MONTHS..?

NOT AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL

IS THIS UPDATE IS GOOD..?

DISAPPOINTED...

FINAL WORD

(ONE TIME PLAYABLE )

 

[FAEN1134]

Hi friends...

Just finished the game... Its really disappointed..
Developer taken 2 months for this tiny shitty update... Its reduculous.. I think he may be completed this update 1month back and wait for another month to take money from followers and released..

IS THIS UPDATE WORTHY FOR 2 MONTHS..?

NOT AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL

IS THIS UPDATE IS GOOD..?

DISAPPOINTED...

FINAL WORD

(ONE TIME PLAYABLE )

Dev need to sure hes milking right amout, otherwise we would get actual update in accident.

 

[r0def]

Who will be in the next update
????????????

 

[Bishop Robert]

L&P: Sophia will rather cool things down with Sam because it's a dangerous game and she doesn't want ti ruin her marriage with that.

Just what we need, things to cool down

 

[Riversayt]

Are there sites where you can download this game in Russian and so that it is automatically saved in the final 1 part of the working one, do not manually put it in a folder to play part 2? I found sites where it works automatically, but the game is always in English only. where then can you download it in Russian from the automatic settings of the final part 1 of the game ?!

 

[maybes4]

He spent 2 months for a piece of... To finish the whole game by the end of 2026 it means that he is going to finish at least 4 PDs by the end of 2023... This is just wishful thinking...

yep youre right i ve just realized how unrealistic the goal is
By the end of 2023, we will only get more 4 events (1,5 PD)
can anyone give me the roadmap? Im curious when we have the second visit to the hospital( sophia swore to wear the rag)

 

[Bishop Robert]

yep youre right i ve just realized how unrealistic the goal is
By the end of 2023, we will only get more 4 events (1,5 PD)
can anyone give me the roadmap? Im curious when we have the second visit to the hospital( sophia swore to wear the rag)

Here

This is the schedule for the next playable days, in yellow the release currently in production.
Comments in dark grayish orange still need more confirmation.

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PD 13 - Day 20 - Friday

Day time	Release	Event	Teasers	Notes
Morning
	v0.155 12/04/2022 with v0.160	Literature lesson (Aiden's 4th task)	Teaser1 Teaser 2
		School break (bonus scene)	Teaser 1 Teaser 2 1st Animation
		Don Morello (optional)	Teaser	Only if larry >= 8
Noon
	v0.160 12/04/2022	Dylan/Ellie Part 1 + Part 2	Teaser 1 Teaser 2 Teaser 3	* Noon alternative 1 * it requires Dylan/Ellie story-line
	v0.161 23/05/2022	Aiden's Meeting	Teaser 1 Teaser 2 You must be registered to see the links
	v0.165 11/07/2022	Dylan keeps Amber company	Teaser 1 Teaser 2 Teaser 3	* Noon alternative 2 * Depends on the "chicken fight" PD 10
	v0.170 24/08/2022	2nd side job 3rd day (Tutoring job)	Teaser 1 Teaser 2	* Leah (Ava's older daughter) is introduced * Nursing_job_accepted == False and all the other variables needed to play the event without saves
Afternoon
	v0.175 21/11/2022	Sophia/Sam	Teaser 1 Teaser 2 Teaser 3 Teaser 4 Teaser 5 Teaser 6 Teaser 7	* Supposedly hotter than previous hot tub scene (source) * Will Sophia show her breasts? (source TBC) * There will be an animation (source) more than one animation (source) * She is wearing a bra under the top (source) * Amber, Neil and Julia are in the house during the event (source)
	v0.180 04/02/2023	Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan) (and resolution of v0.175)	Teaser 1 Teaser 2 Teaser 3 Merry Xmas Teaser 4 Teaser 5 Teaser 6 Teaser 7	* there will be a short resolution of the previous event and then the visit to the salon (source) * this event is more about Dylan (source) and to progress the story with Marie you need to play Dylan's POV in the yoga event (source) * it will rather be a cool down event wrt the previous one to progress the story (source). * Sophia is getting a new hairstyle and there will be a poll to choose it (source) (new hairstyles)(poll results) * The event was supposed to be only at the salon (source) but the 3rd teaser shows them at the ice cream parlor...
Evening				really hot events for end of PD 13 (source)
	update 7	Sophia/Dylan Part 1		* Evening alternative 1 [note that for the following info, unless stated differently, we don't know whether they refer to part 1 or 2] * Sophia will tell Dylan when she lost her virginity (source), there will be flashbacks but not about that (source) * The next really hot event between Dylan and Sophia will be on playable day 13 in the evening. This will be the next step in their relationship. (L&P quote) * the evening events will be at least as hot as the Sam event if not even hotter. (source) * there will be a change of location (source) * There will be animations (source)
	update 8	Sophia/Dylan Part 2		Evening alternative 1 cont. * There will be animations (source)
	update 9	Dylan/Ellie/Christine		Evening alternative 2 * There will be animations (source)
	update 10	Dylan/Emma + rest		Evening alternative 3

PD 14 - Day 21 - Saturday
provisional schedule

Day time	Release	Event	Teasers	Notes
				* really hot events for PD 14 (source)
Morning
		Sophia/Ellie (Very short)
		Sophia/Sam (Very short)		it will be very short and will be just about practicing. (source1, source2)
		Sophia/Ellie		shower & shaving? it won't be a shower event (source)
Noon
		1st side job (nursing)		* Alternative noon event 1 * she promised to try on the sexy nurse outfit (‡)
		2nd side Job (tutoring)		* Alternative noon event 2 * rdv at 1pm * they got "homework" to do, she will bring lingerie
		Sophia/Dylan		* from v0.170 we know she has to drive Dylan to his soccer match around 3:30 pm * Maybe Darnell will be back when Sophia picks Dylan up (source) - There is something planned with him on the cuckold route (source) but not no mention it could be this PD. * Dylan has to give back the money he took otherwise Sophia will be mad (source) [we don't know in which of the 3 events]
Afternoon
		Sophia/Dylan
Evening
		Sophia/Dylan
		Meeting "museum college guys"		* requires jason_haru_phonenumber * Not a lesbian oriented event (source), rather straight (source) * Something interesting is planned (source), probably only one-time event (source) with likely no repercussions on the story (source),

(‡) little preview from the fan art thread

These are instead pieces of information we know about the future days, either from what it is said in the game or from various intel given by L&P.
Again, the comments in this colour are unconfirmed information or educated guesses from what is said in the story but needing a confirmation

Note 1: "within the next X days" is to be counted from PD 12 when he gave the info.
Note 2: the sex scenes apparently are not exclusively about Sophia but they are about Sophia, Dylan and Ellie. ( source 1, source 2)

Note 3: according to an old post (Jan 2020), there will be at least 1 Dylan event each day except for days 22, 23, 28, 30, 31, 33 and 35. But things could have changed. So, grain of salt.

Note 4: Side jobs are recurring events but atm it is not explicitly specified if they occur on regular schedules. We know that the first side job is shorter than the 2nd and will end earlier but there will be still the option to return to them later (source).

• Nursing job
  • Sophia is temporary replacing "for the next two to three weeks" Nurse Susan who is ill and she has to take care of Mr. Herman and Mr. Gibbs. They are both in "for the next two weeks for some routine health checks". This **could** mean that the story with them is over on Saturday PD 22.
  • Assuming she is working on a regular schedule and based on the first week events, the working days would be Monday, Thursday and Saturday. But nothing is said in the story and no intel is given on the topic.
• Tutoring job
  • Sophia is teaching Ava's kids while she is reviewing two Master thesis "for 2-3 weeks" (as written in the ad)
  • So far, since the first interview we have 1 event per day, Sunday excluded. Since it's basically a home schooling job it is possible that there are events every day of the week but Sundays. But this is not confirmed. From v0.170 we know that Saturday was not scheduled, for this week it's an extra.

Note 5: Nathalie is supposed to come twice a week for 3 hours but the days has to vary because of her college schedule. So it is not possible atm to know when the next events will be. The best intel so far places her next appearance on PD19 (source)


PD 15 - Day 22 - Sunday
[1st lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 3 playable days]

• Patricia and Sophia visit her friend Zoey's ranch.
  • This event will take place in any case [meaning Boarding school or not, Ed.*]. Either Patricia tells Sophia about it on Day 18 after yoga or she will call her on Saturday. What will happen there depends on Sophia's lesbian points and her relationship to Patricia. (source)
    * Note that in the boarding school route Sophia didn't get the invitation from Patricia because they could not stop at Zac's and have a chat while Dylan visit him. In that case, she will got the call on Saturday. The ranch event cannot happen on Alyssa's route (alternative to the yoga event) as Sophia cannot get the 2 Patricia points awarded in the yoga event and get to the required 14 points.
  • It will be "one large event which spreads over the morning until the evening" (source) and it will cover 3/4 of the day (source)
  • It won't be the only event, there will be others (source)
  • Patricia can horse-ride a bit better than Sophia (source)
  • Not clear whether Zoey is lesbian (source)
• no Dylan's events (see note 3)

PD 16 - Day 23 - Monday
[1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]

• there are "several Ellie's events spread out over the day" (aka Ellie's day) and the return of the sauna guys Tyler and Logan
  • "Dylan/Ellie storyline will highly likely already have its culmination on playable day 16 " (source) and it is independent from Sophia's decisions beside the bathroom accident on PD 4 (source)
    • not clear if this means there will be an event (see no Dylan's events below) or the story will be already over. In the latter case their event/sex scene *could* be before PD16, atm PD13 is the only one having an event.
  • Ellie route would split into 3 routes and would involve Logan/Sophia and Ellie (source, source form L&P, spoiler #2)
  • Logan will become Ellie’s new boyfriend but Sophia will have the chance to change her mind at playable day 16 (source form L&P, spoiler #2)
• She usually does not teach on Mondays, but after what happened in v0.161 she will meet Aiden and they are going to have a "have a 'private chat' on Monday at school" . but in v0.170 she has been called in by Principal Johnson as substitute teacher on Monday (as it was anticipated ). Then the task will be revealed right before class (source).
• "Something definitely really "wild" what is not with the husband [...] and it will be something no one will definitely expect at the moment!" as per L&P quote. Also "... there will be a very hot and big hetero scene.'" (source)
• no Dylan's events (see note 3)
  • this could be in contrast with the end of Dylan/Ellie (see above) in case there is an event
• if the schedule is regular (Mon, Thu, Sat), nursing job.
• Sam event (source)
  • This may be in conflict with (source) in which it is said that the "next real event will be just on Tuesday". So this one if confirmed **could be** another short cello lesson as in PD 14, but it's just speculation.

PD 17 - Day 24 - Tuesday
[3rd big lesbian sex(ual) scene with an important character: Within the next 5 playable days]

• 2 Ellie's events
• She is teaching on Tuesdays and probably there will be the first sport lesson if the school gym is ready (after the "usual" Literature class)
• Alyssa will be back and they are likely to meet at soccer practice ("I think Tuesday next week when our boys have soccer practice will be the earliest we can see each other again.")
  • And their next events will be very special (source).
  • Remember that Alyssa path's won't end if Sophia asks Morello's help, it does only if Zac and Dylan are sent to the boarding school (source)
• From v0.175 we know Sophia's parents will be visiting.
  • They will stay only one day (source) and they only appear in this PD (source)
  • Sophia's maiden name is Ferdinand (source)
• Sam event (source), probably related to Sophia's parents visit and the cello "concert" (source).

PD 18 - Day 25 - Wednesday

• Biology class, likely another Aiden's task
• The 1st chance to get rid of Bennett (source)
  • One of the way to get rid of him is Morello if the conditions are met (same as for Aiden) (source), another one could be with the help of Mrs. Torres and the school board but at the moment it is not clear which one will be this day.
  • Not clear at the moment how asking Morello's help works for Bennet, it should be mutually exclusive with Aiden (cannot use it on both).
• 2nd optional solution for Aiden (less comfortable than Morello). Even this one will require certain choices made before (source)
  • there have been some discrepancies about when this should happen, at some point L&P placed it on PD 17 (source) but then more recently he placed it "in around 5 game days" [from PD 13] (source)
• not clear if there will be Sam event (source)

PD 19 - Day 26 - Thursday
[4th lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 7 playable days]

• 2 Ellie's events
• An old L&P post that has been removed suggested that "Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19" (source, see spoiler #5 in the quoted message)
• Probably the next appearance of Nathalie since PD 12 (source)
• if the schedule is regular (Mon, Thu, Sat), nursing job.
• not clear if there will be Sam event (source)

PD 20 - Day 27 - Friday

• Literature class, likely another Aiden's task
• Sam event (source)

PD 21 - Day 28 - Saturday

• 3 Ellie's events
• no Dylan's events (see note 3)
• if the schedule is regular (Mon, Thu, Sat), nursing job.

PD 22 - Day 29 - Sunday


PD 23 - Day 30 - Monday

• no Dylan's events (see note 3)

PD 24 - Day 31 - Tuesday

• Literature and Sport class
• Deadline for Mr. Bennett's proposal (2 weeks deadline since the dinner on Tuesday PD 10)
  • Remember that "the teacher's role was mainly included for a very special fetish scene at the end of the game!" as per L&P post
• no Dylan's events (see note 3)

Other information
What follows is a compilation of other, more general information grouped by characters and topics that does not fit in a particular day. Again, this comes with the caveat that they might refer to old posts and hence could be no more relevant, they might come from mail exchanges between L&P and users without a proof and so on. So take everything with the proverbial grain of salt, the information is collected here with their reference so people can form their opinion.

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[DanThaMan]

Here

So about 24 months away for the next nursing event if the updates stay at every 3 months

 

[palmtrees89]

It's always "wait until the next update". But, more specific to this update, the main problem is how long it took. The scenes were, in a vacuum, fine; but it's not acceptable that it took so long to produce this update. The game's glacial pace is compounded by the the development's glacial pace. If meaningful progress is going to be made in a reasonable timeframe then the wait between updates needs to be measured in weeks, not months. When it takes months to produce a "simple" update like this, it means the game is doomed. Development of Playable Day 13 is shaping up to take 18 months. That's not ok.

I can't tell if this turd of a mini-game was the reason for the long wait this time around or what, but it was really abysmal speed. Turned out to be the 3rd slowest update in the history of AWAM, being extremely close to the slowest updates which atleast had animations.

3rd place: 0.180 (current release for PD13), 293 renders, ~3.90 renders a day and 0 animations
2nd place: 0.160 (first release for PD13), 524 renders, ~3.66 renders a day and 10 animations (1 minute and 17 seconds)
1st place: 0.161 (second release for PD13) 144 renders, ~3.44 renders a day and 2 animations (9 seconds)

I'd say even 18 months is very much wishful thinking. We're already 14 months and 2 (almost 3) weeks in, and there's 4 more updates with atleast 2 of them being major ones + a bunch of animation work. I wouldn't be surprised if this is even gonna pass the 2 year mark for a single PD. That's bonkers.

But ay, atleast he's managed to not break his current record. I was certain this update would become the new low. Not sure if that's worth anything considering L&P is going to shit on the previous record for the longest PD, but yeah. lol