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If Dylan is required, that's not lesbian.Maybe Emma is like Julia?she can have Dylan and sophie.go emma
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if is Sophie/Emma then yes is lesbian.
.i want to see more about that path.maybe Emma is the "official Girlfriend"of Dylan and she is cheating him with Sophie
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Yeah! If the speculations are accurate, Putin has promised to end the war if L&P finishes this game, according to the UN.
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so I was wondering about a what-if scenario here, L&P and most developers (myself included) develop in a linear way but what if Sophia's interaction with one character only was developed fully first?
not an easy task but not impossible to do, remember Summertime Saga used to develop this way.
I don't mean main characters like Dylan, Ellie or Liam, I mean Sam, Aiden, Julie, Emma, side jobs etc.
So every update would be on side job students until as far as it can go, or finished
Then say everything with Julia.
Then everything with the old guy's side job
Then everything with Patricia
Then everything with Aiden
Ignore the order above, it's just an example but something like that. The AWAM story would need to be fully written out which I believe it is. Therefore you start developing Sophia's interaction scenes with characters who have the least amount of interaction with her, then build up to Ellie, Dylan and then Liam.
This way people see a conclusion to some things, instead of waiting years and years. Although I still say, once it does finally happen it's going to snowball every update and should be great.
The only problem I can see is maybe spoiling some things in future with Ellie and Dylan, but as you have the story fully mapped out, you can prevent that and stop there with that character, then move on to the next character.
What if AWAM was developed as described above, would you prefer that? would it be better? would the complaints in here be less? would complaints be different?
not an easy task but not impossible to do, remember Summertime Saga used to develop this way.
I don't mean main characters like Dylan, Ellie or Liam, I mean Sam, Aiden, Julie, Emma, side jobs etc.
So every update would be on side job students until as far as it can go, or finished
Then say everything with Julia.
Then everything with the old guy's side job
Then everything with Patricia
Then everything with Aiden
Ignore the order above, it's just an example but something like that. The AWAM story would need to be fully written out which I believe it is. Therefore you start developing Sophia's interaction scenes with characters who have the least amount of interaction with her, then build up to Ellie, Dylan and then Liam.
This way people see a conclusion to some things, instead of waiting years and years. Although I still say, once it does finally happen it's going to snowball every update and should be great.
The only problem I can see is maybe spoiling some things in future with Ellie and Dylan, but as you have the story fully mapped out, you can prevent that and stop there with that character, then move on to the next character.
What if AWAM was developed as described above, would you prefer that? would it be better? would the complaints in here be less? would complaints be different?
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This is the schedule for the next playable days, in yellow the release currently in production.
Comments in dark grayish orange still need more confirmation.
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PD 13 - Day 20 - Friday
Day time Release Event Teasers Notes Morning v0.155
12/04/2022
with v0.160Literature lesson (Aiden's 4th task) Teaser 1
Teaser 2School break (bonus scene) Teaser 1
Teaser 2
1st AnimationDon Morello (optional) Teaser Only if larry >= 8Noon v0.160
12/04/2022Dylan/Ellie Part 1 + Part 2 Teaser 1
Teaser 2
Teaser 3* Noon alternative 1
* it requires Dylan/Ellie story-linev0.161
23/05/2022Aiden's Meeting Teaser 1
Teaser 2
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11/07/2022Dylan keeps Amber company Teaser 1
Teaser 2
Teaser 3* Noon alternative 2
* Depends on the "chicken fight" PD 10v0.170
24/08/20222nd side job 3rd day (Tutoring job) Teaser 1
Teaser 2* Leah (Ava's older daughter) is introduced
*Nursing_job_accepted == Falseand all the other variables needed to play the event without savesAfternoon v0.175
21/11/2022Sophia/Sam Teaser 1
Teaser 2
Teaser 3
Teaser 4
Teaser 5
Teaser 6
Teaser 7* Supposedly hotter than previous hot tub scene (source)
* Will Sophia show her breasts? (source TBC)
* There will bean animation (source)more than one animation (source)
* She is wearing a bra under the top (source)
* Amber, Neil and Julia are in the house during the event (source)v0.180
04/02/2023Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan)
(and resolution of v0.175)Teaser 1
Teaser 2
Teaser 3
Merry Xmas
Teaser 4
Teaser 5
Teaser 6
Teaser 7* there will be a short resolution of the previous event and then the visit to the salon (source)
* this event is more about Dylan (source) and to progress the story with Marie you need to play Dylan's POV in the yoga event (source)
* it will rather be a cool down event wrt the previous one to progress the story (source).
* Sophia is getting a new hairstyle and there will be a poll to choose it (source) (new hairstyles)(poll results)
* The event was supposed to be only at the salon (source) but the 3rd teaser shows them at the ice cream parlor...Evening really hot events for end of PD 13 (source) v0.185 Sophia/Dylan Part 1
(Evening alternative 1)Teaser 1
Teaser 2
Teaser 3
Teaser 4 Teaser 5
Teaser 6
Teaser 7
Teaser 8
Teaser 9 (hi-res)
Teaser 10
Teaser 11
Teaser 12
Teaser 13
Teaser 14
Teaser 15[General info for part 1 and 2]
* no cuckold events, Sophia Dylan events will be just about the two of them and their story progress (source 1)(source 2)
* The next really hot event between Dylan and Sophia will be on playable day 13 in the evening. This will be the next step in their relationship. (L&P quote)
* the evening events will be at least as hot as the Sam event if not even hotter. (source) and, overall he won't achieve anything less than Sam (source)
* Sophia will tell Dylan when she lost her virginity (source), there will be flashbacks but not about that (source)
* Next scene with Dylan won't be in the hot tub. They will have more privacy (source)
* Part 1 is the build up for Part 2 in some way, naturally. They merge into each other. But without spoiling much I can say both parts have something very hot to give, this is for sure. Part 1 I would say is additionally the more "artistic part" and more "story-heavy". (source)
[Info for part1]
Information coming with the teasers:
* She was young and she needed the money when she did the magazine gig (source)
- Evening together?
Sophia back from Claire, happy to see her husband. After all, they had big plans for the evening and wanted to go to a fine restaurant. But...- Change of plans for the evening
It turned out that Liam's boss, Mr. Harris, wanted to come over to watch the football game that night. An offer Liam could hardly refuse. So Liam and Sophia postponed their date on Sunday evening.
Sophia meets Dylan in the hallway and asks him what he's up to. He tells her about a buddy who got basketball tickets for a game this night, third row. OR (depending on your decisions before): about a party (at Christine's house). Of course Sophia is happy for him. Accordingly, Sophia tells him about her changed plans for the evening...- Sophia's alternative plan for the evening
Sophia is getting ready for a nice, relaxing bath...- Getting ready (front view)
While Sophia is getting ready for her relaxing bath, the doorbell rings. Mr. Harris is here. Liam asked Sophia to say hi to his boss. Bot not in which way. Depending on what Sophia's corruption status is, she can either say hi by changing into an ordinary robe or stay like this and teach her husband a little lesson by teasing his boss a little bit in front of him...- Hello, "Mr. Boss".
Sophia (filthy) says hi to Liam's boss, Mr. Harris, as he asked her to...- Ready to go
Sophia picks Dylan up at his room for their little private wellness time together.- Setting everything up for some quality time together
- Taking care of each other
- A surprising discovery (little "in-between special")
Dylan made a surprising discovery about Sophia's past. What exactly, you will find out Sunday.- Youthful Sins (What Dylan found out about Sophia) (source)
Dylan found in the deepest abyss of the internet some old magazine that Sophia modeled for when she was just getting into college when she was 19. It's a relatively unknown magazine, so Sophia has managed to keep this little youthful sin secret. Until now.
The photo shoot includes a total of 10 hot photos with her. You get to see one of them as a small incentive very soon- A little peek into the magazine
- Another little peek into the magazine
I'll give you still two further beautiful shots as teasers, since it doesn't spoil much of the story behind it anyways. One tomorrow and one on Saturday. Enjoy- One more peek into the magazine
- One last peek into the magazine
- Enjoying some quality time together (Last Teaser)
- Preliminary information about 0.185
At the moment it is still very difficult to give an exact release date. But I can already give you some numbers.
0.185 event contains 26 word pages of text and over 400 renders. Plus 3 animations.
* When Dylan discovers the cover there won't be blackmail but It's rather something Sophia could be proud of. Dylan and Sophia will have a nice conversation about that. (source)
* nobody knows about the magazine pictures, not even Liam (source)
* Sophia is end of 19 and will be 20 very soon here. (source)
* Sophia won't join Liam and his boss to watch the game, she will take a bath, with or without Dylan (source)
* there will be a change of location (source) * the event will be 95% about Sophia/Dylan (source)
* probably there will be a choice to make about going to the restaurant (source)
* There will be animations (source) and they take place in the last fourth of the event (source): of the 3 animations 2 are rather short with around 6-10 seconds. And a long one with almost 30 seconds (source)update 8 Sophia/Dylan Part 2
(Evening alternative 1 cont.)* another hot tub event (source 1, source 2)
* There will be animations (source)update 9 Dylan/Ellie/Christine
(Evening alternative 2)* There will be animations (source, source) update 10 Dylan/Emma + rest
(Evening alternative 3)
PD 14 - Day 21 - Saturday
provisional schedule
Day time Release Event Teasers Notes * really hot events for PD 14 (source) Morning Sophia/Ellie (Very short) Sophia/Sam (Very short) * it will be very short and will be just about practicing. (source1, source2)
* Sophia will rather cool things down with Sam because it's a dangerous game and she doesn't want ti ruin her marriage with that. (source)Sophia/Ellie shower & shaving?it won't be a shower event (source)Noon 1st side job (nursing) * Alternative noon event 1
* she promised to try on the sexy nurse outfit (‡)2nd side Job (tutoring) * Alternative noon event 2
* rdv at 1pm
* they got "homework" to do, she will bring lingerie
* maybe Leah could join the class (source) [but not necessarily this time]Sophia/Dylan [General info for Dylan's events of the day]
* from v0.170 we know she has to drive Dylan to his soccer match around 3:30 pm (time confirmed by L&P here)
* Maybe Darnell will be back when Sophia picks Dylan up (source) - There is something planned with him on the cuckold route (source) [but no mention it could be this PD]. Darnell will play a role here (source)
* Dylan has to give back the money he took otherwise Sophia will be mad (source) [we don't know in which event]
* Dylan's events are always connected in some way. Cuckold is just an option sometimes, which will only be important much later in the game. (source)Afternoon Sophia/Dylan Evening Sophia/Dylan Meeting "museum college guys" * requires jason_haru_phonenumber
* Not a lesbian oriented event (source), rather straight (source)
* Something interesting is planned (source), probably only one-time event (source) with likely no repercussions on the story (source),
* there won't be sex (source)
(‡) little preview from the fan art thread
These are instead pieces of information we know about the future days, either from what it is said in the game or from various intel given by L&P.
Again, the comments in this colour are unconfirmed information or educated guesses from what is said in the story but needing a confirmation
Note 1: "within the next X days" is to be counted from PD 12 when he gave the info.
Note 2: the sex scenes apparently are not exclusively about Sophia but they are about Sophia, Dylan and Ellie. ( source 1, source 2)
Note 3: according to an old post (Jan 2020), there will be at least 1 Dylan event each day except for days 22, 23, 28, 30, 31, 33 and 35. But things could have changed. So, grain of salt.
Note 4: Side jobs are recurring events but atm it is not explicitly specified if they occur on regular schedules. We know that the first side job is shorter than the 2nd and will end earlier but there will be still the option to return to them later (source).
Note 5: Nathalie is supposed to come twice a week for 3 hours but the days has to vary because of her college schedule. So it is not possible atm to know when the next events will be. The best intel so far places her next appearance on PD19 (source)
- Nursing job
- Sophia is temporary replacing "for the next two to three weeks" Nurse Susan who is ill and she has to take care of Mr. Herman and Mr. Gibbs. They are both in "for the next two weeks for some routine health checks". This **could** mean that the story with them is over on Saturday PD 22.
- Assuming she is working on a regular schedule and based on the first week events, the working days would be Monday, Thursday and Saturday. But nothing is said in the story and no intel is given on the topic.
- Tutoring job
- Sophia is teaching Ava's kids while she is reviewing two Master thesis "for 2-3 weeks" (as written in the ad)
- So far, since the first interview we have 1 event per day, Sunday excluded. Since it's basically a home schooling job it is possible that there are events every day of the week but Sundays. But this is not confirmed. From v0.170 we know that Saturday was not scheduled, for this week it's an extra.
PD 15 - Day 22 - Sunday
[1st lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 3 playable days]
- Patricia and Sophia visit her friend Zoey's ranch.
- This event will take place in any case [meaning Boarding school or not, Ed.*]. Either Patricia tells Sophia about it on Day 18 after yoga or she will call her on Saturday. What will happen there depends on Sophia's lesbian points and her relationship to Patricia. (source)
* Note that in the boarding school route Sophia didn't get the invitation from Patricia because they could not stop at Zac's and have a chat while Dylan visited him. In that case, she will got the call on Saturday. The ranch event cannot happen on Alyssa's route (alternative to the yoga event) as Sophia cannot get the 2 Patricia points awarded in the yoga event and get to the required 14 points.- It will be "one large event which spreads over the morning until the evening" (source) and it will cover 3/4 of the day (source)
- Patricia can horse-ride a bit better than Sophia (source)
- Not clear whether Zoey is lesbian (source)
- (Q): There will be hetero events at the Zoey's ranch on playable day 15? (A): Well... yes and no. It will be a very special and unique event in many ways. That much I can tell. (source)
- It won't be the only event, there will be others (source)
- from the 2nd teaser of v0.185 we know that the romantic dinner between Sophia and Liam is re-scheduled for sunday evening.
- no Dylan's events (see note 3)
PD 16 - Day 23 - Monday
[1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
- there are "several Ellie's events spread out over the day" (aka Ellie's day) and the return of the sauna guys Tyler and Logan
- "Dylan/Ellie storyline will highly likely already have its culmination on playable day 16 " (source) and it is independent from Sophia's decisions beside the bathroom accident on PD 4 (source)
- not clear if this means there will be an event (see no Dylan's events below) or the story will be already over. In the latter case their event/sex scene *could* be before PD16, atm PD13 is the only one having an event.
- Ellie route would split into 3 routes and would involve Logan/Sophia and Ellie (source, source form L&P, spoiler #2)
- Logan will become Ellie’s new boyfriend but Sophia will have the chance to change her mind at playable day 16 (source form L&P, spoiler #2)
- She usually does not teach on Mondays,
but after what happened in v0.161 she will meet Aiden and they are going to have a "have a 'private chat' on Monday at school" .but in v0.170 she has been called in by Principal Johnson as substitute teacher on Monday (as it was anticipated ). Then the task will be revealed right before class (source).- "Something definitely really "wild" what is not with the husband [...] and it will be something no one will definitely expect at the moment!" as per L&P quote. Also "... there will be a very hot and big hetero scene.'" (source)
- no Dylan's events (see note 3)
- this could be in contrast with the end of Dylan/Ellie (see above) in case there is an event
- if the schedule is regular (Mon, Thu, Sat), nursing job.
- Sam event (source)
- This may be in conflict with (source) in which it is said that the "next real event will be just on Tuesday". So this one if confirmed **could be** another short cello lesson as in PD 14, but it's just speculation.
PD 17 - Day 24 - Tuesday
[3rd big lesbian sex(ual) scene with an important character: Within the next 5 playable days]
- 2 Ellie's events
- She is teaching on Tuesdays and probably there will be the first sport lesson if the school gym is ready (after the "usual" Literature class)
- Alyssa will be back and they are likely to meet at soccer practice ("I think Tuesday next week when our boys have soccer practice will be the earliest we can see each other again.")
- From v0.175 we know Sophia's parents will be visiting.
- Sam event (source), probably related to Sophia's parents visit and the cello "concert" (source).
PD 18 - Day 25 - Wednesday
- Biology class, likely another Aiden's task
- The 1st chance to get rid of Bennett (source)
- One of the way to get rid of him is Morello if the conditions are met (same as for Aiden) (source), another one could be with the help of Mrs. Torres and the school board but at the moment it is not clear which one will be this day.
- Not clear at the moment how asking Morello's help works for Bennet, it should be mutually exclusive with Aiden (cannot use it on both).
- 2nd optional solution for Aiden (less comfortable than Morello). Even this one will require certain choices made before (source)
- not clear if there will be Sam event (source)
PD 19 - Day 26 - Thursday
[4th lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 7 playable days]
- 2 Ellie's events
- An old L&P post that has been removed suggested that "Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19" (source, see spoiler #5 in the quoted message)
- Probably the next appearance of Nathalie since PD 12 (source)
- if the schedule is regular (Mon, Thu, Sat), nursing job.
- not clear if there will be Sam event (source)
PD 20 - Day 27 - Friday
- Literature class, likely another Aiden's task
- Sam event (source)
PD 21 - Day 28 - Saturday
- 3 Ellie's events
- no Dylan's events (see note 3)
- if the schedule is regular (Mon, Thu, Sat), nursing job.
PD 22 - Day 29 - Sunday
PD 23 - Day 30 - Monday
- no Dylan's events (see note 3)
PD 24 - Day 31 - Tuesday
- Literature and Sport class
- Deadline for Mr. Bennett's proposal (2 weeks deadline since the dinner on Tuesday PD 10)
- Remember that "the teacher's role was mainly included for a very special fetish scene at the end of the game!" as per L&P post
- no Dylan's events (see note 3)
Other information
What follows is a compilation of other, more general information grouped by characters and topics that does not fit in a particular day. Again, this comes with the caveat that they might refer to old posts and hence could be no more relevant, they might come from mail exchanges between L&P and users without a proof and so on. So take everything with the proverbial grain of salt, the information is collected here with their reference so people can form their opinion.
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What makes you think he won't slow down even more?
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That can work if we are talking for a sandbox game,not a VN game.
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I mean if you're required to make a decision for one of the straight paths, then it's not a lesbian event. Same reason I don't consider the last Alyssa event to be a lesbian one. At least not on the lesbian route.
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I just stumbled upon this game, and I am very impressed! Storyline, art, plot it's like a 9.5 out of 10.
I am a writer--and half the battle is the story. I think the game I am thinking of is "Christine Watson" at this moment were there is great artwork, but the storyline just is dreadful and the plot weak. Not sure how many here have read JRR Martin's "Game of Thrones" series but its nonlinear. It makes the story and a lot of the subplots because it connects other plots. I can just image how much labor goes into the programing and the renders let alone editing. I wager it's like watching snails racing each other at the Daytona 500.
Almost 6000 posts about just this one game is its own testament how good the game is. Another good game "Summer Story" is shy of 120 posts. Its own success though has its own pitfalls though. The biggest potential flop is the Sam/Sophia plotline. How those two finally make love and how its depicted is the test stone. The make out scene in second part totally works. But there are another plotline involving Dylan and his sister (maybe) and eventually the two mothers of Dylan and Sam and how they are going to react when they discover each other's involvement with their sons.
Seriously the only way really to speed things is more programmers working with a director/writer.
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Since you introduced yourself as a writer, please let me know which part was so good and which line moved you so much.
Please tell us in detail which plot made you clap.
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Progress Report Ver. 0.185 100% - 100% - 100%
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